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hiko 06-04-2010 03:20 PM

What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Hi Everyone,

What can the TP2 do that the iPhone or Droid can't?

for the record, i have a TP2(MM SE).

thanks,
hiko

burtonsnow8 06-04-2010 03:32 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
My tp2 can fly....for about 4 seconds.


iphone os and WM os both have slingbox, android doesn't.

jmorton10 06-04-2010 03:40 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burtonsnow8 (Post 1791989)


iphone os and WM os both have slingbox, android doesn't.


yup.

Sling Mobile runs perfectly in my TP2 & in my ipod touch.

Until Android suports it, I'm not switching.

~John

solarflarex 06-04-2010 03:44 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
dual boot wm6.5.3 and droid. run linux. run a custom rom like bigad's maxsense 6/3 6.5.3 rom.. omg.. stereo mics. stereo speakers. turn screen off automatically when i put the phone in the pocket. Run several different browsers. Run youtube in skyfire w/o an app. Run my phone as an access point with unlimited? connections... have all kinds of software not apps... the list goes on....

jmorton10 06-04-2010 03:54 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
LOL, good post solarflex.

I knew there was a bunch of stuff but I had completely forgotten a few of the things you mentioned.....

John

Wesley762 06-04-2010 03:57 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hiko (Post 1791953)
Hi Everyone,

What can the TP2 do that the iPhone or Droid can't?

for the record, i have a TP2(MM SE).

thanks,
hiko

Anyone smelling a troll?

jmorton10 06-04-2010 03:58 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
He asked a legit question (although kind of controversial for a first post.

I think a lot of people are interested in that topic.

John

krazyjack 06-04-2010 04:18 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Personally, I'm interested as well. I have a TP2 and an iPod touch I tether it to. However, I know zero about android. The EVO is looking tempting though.

eric12341 06-04-2010 04:28 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
IE can also run youtube tho not as smooth as skyfire

CA3SAR 06-04-2010 04:53 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
mine can freeze more often

jmorton10 06-04-2010 05:17 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CA3SAR (Post 1792210)
mine can freeze more often

which phone are you talking about??


My TP2 hasn't frozen up in the last month.

I work with a girl who has an Android phone that managed to hard reset itself (for the 3rd time) when she was trying to delete/reinstall her gmail account this morning (which needed to be done as it was refusing to send email at all)

~John

redd214 06-04-2010 05:39 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
happens on both os's. some experience it, some dont.

to answer the original question, the tp2 can do accurate handwriting with a stylus, droid/iphone cannot

pringlet 06-04-2010 06:24 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
How about this:

"Function without a $10 4G access fee"

QMeli907 06-04-2010 06:34 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
It has a soft reset button for the 5 soft resets a day I do to keep it running smooth :dontknow:

Kliptik 06-04-2010 06:55 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solarflarex (Post 1792019)
dual boot wm6.5.3 and droid. run linux. run a custom rom like bigad's maxsense 6/3 6.5.3 rom.. omg.. stereo mics. stereo speakers. turn screen off automatically when i put the phone in the pocket. Run several different browsers. Run youtube in skyfire w/o an app. Run my phone as an access point with unlimited? connections... have all kinds of software not apps... the list goes on....

I think it's limited to 5 wifi connections...

But on topic, I think that WM os is the mosat customizable os out there. Visually, progrmatically, etc. Plus like solarflex said, if you feel the droid bug, just dual boot it on your TP2.

redd214 06-04-2010 07:08 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1792479)
Plus like solarflex said, if you feel the droid bug, just dual boot it on your TP2.

doesnt hold a candle to the real thing!!

but i can somewhat agree with your 1st point. perhaps i dont know how to do it yet but virtually every app i have installed on my tp2 has the dusk theme on it. wmp, weather bug, s2u2, almost everything.

Kliptik 06-04-2010 07:19 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792498)
doesnt hold a candle to the real thing!!

but i can somewhat agree with your 1st point. perhaps i dont know how to do it yet but virtually every app i have installed on my tp2 has the dusk theme on it. wmp, weather bug, s2u2, almost everything.

Yeah I'm sure it's not even close to the real thing, but i think some ppl want to jump to it w/o even knowing the functionality of the OS. If theyre curious, they can dual boot and see if they wanna go further and get the real deal.

And as far as skinning goes, I've got my whole setup on the new GTX theme and it rocks! Matching start menu/program icons, wallpapers, tab icons, boot screens... I'm not sure how locked down the droid OS is, but im pretty sure you cant do that kind of stuff on the iPhone...

sjs01 06-04-2010 07:22 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
It can be put on a very cheap Sprint Legacy plan, or SERO plan...

popdog54 06-04-2010 07:22 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
My TP2 does SERO. That's enough for me to keep it as long as I possibly can.

redd214 06-04-2010 07:26 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
i keep hearing about the sero/legacy plans. how much you guys paying if you dont mind me asking? i know for me the evo would only be $68 a month with insurance before taxes, just wondering

sjs01 06-04-2010 07:35 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792543)
i keep hearing about the sero/legacy plans. how much you guys paying if you dont mind me asking? i know for me the evo would only be $68 a month with insurance before taxes, just wondering

I have a legacy plan that currently has 2 lines on it, Unlimited Texting for both, Unlimited Data for both, Unlimited Nights and Weekends, Unlimited Mobile to Mobile, and Insurance on one line. I pay $71.11 after taxes for both lines.|

Edit: It's on a Family Plan with 1,000 anytime minutes. Also it's a Nationwide plan, so it has unlimited roaming.

willysp 06-04-2010 07:36 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hiko (Post 1791953)
Hi Everyone,

What can the TP2 do that the iPhone or Droid can't?

for the record, i have a TP2(MM SE).

thanks,
hiko

A One-Post Troll!

Welcome!

soinkster 06-04-2010 07:37 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CA3SAR (Post 1792210)
mine can freeze more often

:angry7: and more choppy! ie the landscape music tab compared to the iphone cover flow...

all jokes aside depends on which fan boy you ask and the opinions will vary

popdog54 06-04-2010 08:06 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792543)
i keep hearing about the sero/legacy plans. how much you guys paying if you dont mind me asking? i know for me the evo would only be $68 a month with insurance before taxes, just wondering

I'm on the $30 SERO plan. With taxes it's about $35 a month. 500 anytime minutes, unlimited text and data, free weekends and nights after 7, plus Sprint Pick 3 (3 unlimited numbers).

pimpsuprazx 06-04-2010 08:26 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hiko (Post 1791953)
Hi Everyone,

What can the TP2 do that the iPhone or Droid can't?

for the record, i have a TP2(MM SE).

thanks,
hiko

my memory is expandable the iphone's isn't, and I could take my battery out too, not to mention the charger is damn near universal with most decent smartphones

redd214 06-04-2010 08:35 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsuprazx (Post 1792711)
not to mention the charger is damn near universal with most decent smartphones

older htc phones yes, but newer smartphones not without an adapter. nexus one, moto droid, hd2, desire, evo, moment, omnia 2, incredible, legend etc. all micro usb not mini

thanks sero guys for the answer!

joe50000 06-04-2010 08:45 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I prefer resistive screens. They're more accurate and work just as well with a screen protector.

It has a really nice keyboard, which is great for e-mails.

It has full MS Exchange functionality.

The learning curve for WinMo has been downgraded since MS Marketplace and HTC Sense were implemented.

It can stealth tether and work as a WiFi hotspot

pimpsuprazx 06-04-2010 08:52 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792729)
older htc phones yes, but newer smartphones not without an adapter. nexus one, moto droid, hd2, desire, evo, moment, omnia 2, incredible, legend etc. all micro usb not mini

thanks sero guys for the answer!

yea i know, but I would be content with some of the older smartphones

redd214 06-04-2010 09:07 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1792757)
I prefer resistive screens. They're more accurate and work just as well with a screen protector.

multitouch ftw, cant be done on resistive. i agree more accurate, ive used a toothpick on my tp2 but honestly i would sacrifice that for multitouch. honestly never thought it was that big of a deal before but it does make a lot of things easier and faster

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1792757)
It has a really nice keyboard, which is great for e-mails.

agreed, however there are android phones coming with a similar kb to the tp2:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sites/...der%20open.PNG

plus dictating an email entirely by voice without any mistakes is pretty good too ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1792757)
It has full MS Exchange functionality.

with froyo, droid does.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1792757)
The learning curve for WinMo has been downgraded since MS Marketplace and HTC Sense were implemented.

how does the marketplace make winmo easier to navigate? last i heard there were a couple thousand apps in there. which ones in there make winmo easier for the avg person? my mom got an imagio and trust me, the marketplace couldnt help her get around that phone and shes been in IT for almost 30 years, shes no dummy! sense does make basic functions easier to find though i agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1792757)
It can stealth tether and work as a WiFi hotspot

droid does, with root (i get the voids you warranty part, no need to mention it but the functionality is avail. nonetheless) and can tether via usb without root.


cant comment on the iphone about any of those cuz i have no clue

Arterion 06-04-2010 09:32 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
It can SOD.

lol

:D

Kliptik 06-04-2010 09:58 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arterion (Post 1792873)
It can SOD.

lol

:D

Take THAT android!!!

Wait which side am I on...

SporkLover 06-04-2010 10:22 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Having just recently made the jump there aren't very many things left. The things that are left are just software differences (like lack of a SlingBox App).

I think the stock Android interface is much better than anything Windows Mobile or Iphone OS offer in terms of modifications. Sense does wonderful things for windows mobile, but the freedom of being able to use widgets makes android UI pretty interesting and highly customizable.

Android doesnt have a world phone yet either (CDMA + GSM).

I think the resistive screen on the TP2 was much more accurate. Somethings are more responsive and fluid on my Capacitive Android device, but Resistive is certainly more accurate.

joe50000 06-04-2010 11:47 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792804)
multitouch ftw, cant be done on resistive. i agree more accurate, ive used a toothpick on my tp2 but honestly i would sacrifice that for multitouch. honestly never thought it was that big of a deal before but it does make a lot of things easier and faster

Yes multitouch is great, but outside of browsing and picture viewing, I don't see many benefits. I prefer accuracy any day, especially with a phone that doesn't have a hard keyboard option (or at least, a GOOD hardware keyboard)

Quote:

agreed, however there are android phones coming with a similar kb to the tp2:
Just trying to keep this friendly, but we were talking about the droid and iphone, not future phones.


Quote:

plus dictating an email entirely by voice without any mistakes is pretty good too ;)
That is a good point, but it still has limitations. Dictating e-mails and SMS in public isn't really an option.

Quote:

how does the marketplace make winmo easier to navigate? last i heard there were a couple thousand apps in there. which ones in there make winmo easier for the avg person? my mom got an imagio and trust me, the marketplace couldnt help her get around that phone and shes been in IT for almost 30 years, shes no dummy! sense does make basic functions easier to find though i agree.
It simplifies finding and installing apps. And you still have the choice of whether you want it on your hardware or memory card.

Quote:

droid does, with root (i get the voids you warranty part, no need to mention it but the functionality is avail. nonetheless) and can tether via usb without root.
Okay, agreed there. I guess I can't knock off points for rooting/jailbreaking since it's such an advantageous thing to do on a phone.

12stringchap 06-04-2010 11:49 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I have gone android. I have had 3 TP2's in the last two weeks. The last one froze on me 15 times in one day. I took the battery right out and rebooted and then it still froze after loading. I bought the LG Ally after a little doubt of it freezing and didnt want to do Incredible for lack of keyboard but so far I love it.

The on screen keyboard with the ally is impressive I have missed one letter all night at normal text finger speed. Impressed with the apps as well, especially the Bruce from Family Guy soundboard...."Oooooh Noooo"

Kliptik 06-04-2010 11:51 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arterion (Post 1792873)
It can SOD.

lol

:D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1792928)
Take THAT android!!!

Wait which side am I on...

Oh man.... And just when we thought we had one on droid... looks like "Droid Does"

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...t=black+screen

PS: Thanks Wes for the link...

Wesley762 06-04-2010 11:54 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1793138)
Oh man.... And just when we thought we had one on droid... looks like "Droid Does"

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...t=black+screen

PS: Thanks Wes for the link...

NP I about fell out of my chair laughing when I read that about it having SOD issues and less than a day old lol.

Kliptik 06-05-2010 12:06 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley762 (Post 1793146)
NP I about fell out of my chair laughing when I read that about it having SOD issues and less than a day old lol.

LOL! Should we tell them it's related to the SD card? :violent1:

EDIT* Sorry I couldnt resist... In all reality I do hope that everyone that jumped ship to the EVO is enjoyng their new toys! makes me almost jealous to a certain degree... Ive learned that just cuz its new and cool doesnt mean its the best out there... then again im sure ill be buying a WP7 device as soon as they drop...

kern417 06-05-2010 01:57 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
many overlay options (SPB Shell, Sense, WM Today, etc.)

much more customizable software (and can update software without buying new device)

5 row keyboard (best keyboard i've ever used)

it's more like an extension of your computer

OMGWTF_BBQ 06-05-2010 02:09 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solarflarex (Post 1792019)
dual boot wm6.5.3 and droid. run linux. run a custom rom like bigad's maxsense 6/3 6.5.3 rom.. omg.. stereo mics. stereo speakers. turn screen off automatically when i put the phone in the pocket. Run several different browsers. Run youtube in skyfire w/o an app. Run my phone as an access point with unlimited? connections... have all kinds of software not apps... the list goes on....

Well said!

I love nothing more than booting over to Android when people start smack talking WinMo. If that doesn't please them, then Ubuntu usually does.

But I will also state that with all this tweaking comes a lot of fixing. I have a class 2, 2GB SD card and I have to underclock Android in order to run it successfully. If not, I end up corrupting my SD card. Although that's what happens when you run software on a device that it's not intended to run.

On the other hand, all these features come with consequences. While most of the issues I have with my Touch Pro 2 is centered around Sense, there are a few WinMo problems here and there.

Honestly, I really am unsure as to where I want to go right now. Just today I was scoping out the Android Marketplace on my father's Droid and wasn't impressed. I skimmed through all the utility and tool applications and there was nothing worthwhile.
Though I'm sure the Android community could supply me with worthwhile software.

Here are my only questions.
- I'm running a stock Windows Mobile 6.5 Sprint ROM, is there any other stabler 6.5 ROMs out there?
- Is running a 6.1 ROM with Sense 2.5 missing anything?
- And last but not least. As well as the Android issue, my music always pauses because of my SD card. Can anyone suggest a better media player than Sense's and WM player?

boredandtattooed 06-05-2010 02:14 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
ill agree dual boot usually shuts up any doubters..

doesnt stop them from making jokes while its taking 5minutes to boot Xandroid though...
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any phone that you can power on and make a call in less than a minimum 2min boot time though beats out TP2 LOL


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