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OMGWTF_BBQ 06-05-2010 02:21 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kliptik (Post 1793170)
LOL! Should we tell them it's related to the SD card? :violent1:

EDIT* Sorry I couldnt resist... In all reality I do hope that everyone that jumped ship to the EVO is enjoyng their new toys! makes me almost jealous to a certain degree... Ive learned that just cuz its new and cool doesnt mean its the best out there... then again im sure ill be buying a WP7 device as soon as they drop...

They fixed the SD card issue, but it's incompatible if you root your EVO.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/...e-bug-htc-evo/

To your EDIT*
I feel the same. I just don't want to pay $200 on an EVO then want the next Android/WinPhone that comes out.

Keeping up with the Jones is trying, expensive and never ending.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1793346)
many overlay options (SPB Shell, Sense, WM Today, etc.)

much more customizable software (and can update software without buying new device)

5 row keyboard (best keyboard i've ever used)

it's more like an extension of your computer

That's why I love my TP2 so much. It just feels like I'm using my netbook, although I'm sure Android could give you the same mobile PC vibe.

redd214 06-05-2010 02:27 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1793132)
Yes multitouch is great, but outside of browsing and picture viewing, I don't see many benefits. I prefer accuracy any day, especially with a phone that doesn't have a hard keyboard option (or at least, a GOOD hardware keyboard)

really just a preference thing, both have good and bad. i did picked up a stylus for my incredible though. has a pretty thin tip (not as thin as a winmo stylus of course) but is very accurate even on the capacitive screen

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1793132)
Just trying to keep this friendly, but we were talking about the droid and iphone, not future phones.

look at the nature of most answers. people are talking about android in general, no one is refering specifically to the motorola droid (i know i said "droid does" but i likewise meant android in general)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1793132)
That is a good point, but it still has limitations. Dictating e-mails and SMS in public isn't really an option.

true, but it aint like the kb's are completely unusable. i will say that i can still type faster on the kb then on the sip but i am getting faster everyday! dictating in public is really no different then making a phone call in public. but if dealing with sensitive info i can see where you are coming from

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe50000 (Post 1793132)
It simplifies finding and installing apps. And you still have the choice of whether you want it on your hardware or memory card.

i could agree if there were a decent number of useful apps in there but there isnt. of the probably hundreds of thousands of winmo programs only a couple thousand are in the marketplace. looking at my tp2 of the 50 or so programs ive installed only 4 ive gotten from the marketplace and 3 of those are games. majoirty of the stuff, and all of the stuff that makes the phone easier to use comes from here and xda. most people arent gonna sift thru forums to find stuff. i agree its "easier" but the paltry selection doesnt help matters

with root theres apps2sd for android as well and froyo will bring that functionality without the need to root

grock 06-05-2010 03:10 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
sorry but I caught this on the evo forum and thought while it doesnt mention the tp2
it covers android and iphone....
The Android Phone is For Pron and no its not x rated, just funny

and uhhhh... the evo does rock, i have 2 tp2 and the hero as well, and havent touched the tp2's for 4 months since getting the hero
But the tp2 has the best phone clarity, and speaker phone ive ever used, but who here actually makes calls on there phone, ohh and sorry for being a part of the reason for the network lags and crashes today

WhiteBlazer01 06-05-2010 03:22 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1792804)
plus dictating an email entirely by voice without any mistakes is pretty good too ;)

How can the TP2 do this? I'd be very interested in adding this capability! :)

x10guy 06-05-2010 03:23 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Like others said earlier... the TP2 saves me about $1000 a year.

Iphone: There's No App for that
Droid DOESN'T

hiko 06-05-2010 04:02 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Wow,

thanks for all the replies. i've only had my TP2 for a few months and now have some new ideas on how to use my phone. time to dust off the slingbox!

like many of you i have friends and family with Droids and iPhones. unfortunately, i don't have much experience with either to fully compare.

when i first got my verizon TP2, it was pretty bad (constant battery drain, slow, lock ups, etc). but after i loaded MR on it, it was much better at everything. still have a couple of small bugs like the screen not changing when going into comm manager and turning on wifi. but that's normally fixed with just going into landscape mode and back. Or the occasional battery drain after a long gaming session that need a soft reset to clear.

One of the main reasons i chose the TP2 was for it's keyboard. coming from a sidekick, i really wanted a descent keyboard to work with. still not as good as the sidekick, but way better than a motorola droid.

i'm also saving $100s of dollars a year with the TP2.

This forum has been awesome in getting my phone just the way i like it with all the tweak/mod .cabs.

but i especially like the posts that call me a troll.:razz:

hiko

edufur 06-05-2010 04:16 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Well, I WAS a dedicated WinMo fanboy. I swore by it even when all my WinMo phones were locking up left and right as all the iPhone users were laughing at me. But I defended it to the end. Told them they were all fools to own a phone that was so controlled. I refused to give in and get an iPhone. Then came the Android. I waited and watched to see if it would deliver. And I waited just the perfect amount of time. I got the EVO and I will tell you one thing the TP2 did for me that this EVO doesn't... and that is.... piss me off.

This EVO stomps everything. It just works... period! No locks, no issues with PUSH... no problems period. And it BLOWS the iPhones out of the water!

nrfitchett4 06-05-2010 07:05 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
my phone takes 80 seconds to boot. I agree the iphone is faster to boot, but data don't come cheap on the new at&t data plans:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2364683,00.asp

redd214 06-05-2010 07:37 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteBlazer01 (Post 1793493)
How can the TP2 do this? I'd be very interested in adding this capability! :)

it doesnt, its an android thing. the speech recognition is very accurate. once it learns your voice and diction it makes very few mistakes

semifast 06-05-2010 10:01 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by redd214 (Post 1793668)
it doesnt, its an android thing. the speech recognition is very accurate. once it learns your voice and diction it makes very few mistakes


There's several ways to do voice to text with TP2, TELLME software is one, Voice On the Go is another.

redd214 06-05-2010 10:10 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
thanks. my mistake wasnt aware of that, i didnt think tell me ever got working 100% on the tp2. how well does voice on the go work, may check them it later?

EDIT: im only seeing voice on the go for iphone, android, and blackberry as per thier website. got a link to a wm version?

brownhornet 06-05-2010 12:44 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Man lets be real here.. there arent any advantages unless you use office mobile.. and even so there's an app for that too. Keyboard.. with swype i can type just as fast if not more than when I had my tp2. And as far as that "SOD" issue an OTA came down the same day of release to fix it.. thats right android actually USES the ota ability to address issues. And as far as people talking about they can dual boot... a non fully functional 1.6 android??? Hardly a good way to make a comparison. When 2.2 drops this month there will be no advantages at all.. unless you're one of those few folks with fingers too big to use an on screen keyboard.

boredandtattooed 06-05-2010 03:13 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownhornet (Post 1794108)
Man lets be real here.. there arent any advantages unless you use office mobile.. and even so there's an app for that too. Keyboard.. with swype i can type just as fast if not more than when I had my tp2. And as far as that "SOD" issue an OTA came down the same day of release to fix it.. thats right android actually USES the ota ability to address issues. And as far as people talking about they can dual boot... a non fully functional 1.6 android??? Hardly a good way to make a comparison. When 2.2 drops this month there will be no advantages at all.. unless you're one of those few folks with fingers too big to use an on screen keyboard.


hope your loving that OTA they released yesterday...especially since their saying everywhere that if you did the OTA that was released yesterday, you wont be able to root now...

enjoy your OTA functions LOL..

and what are you talking about, my dual boot on xandroid is 2.1 buddy

edufur 06-05-2010 03:35 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 1794458)
hope your loving that OTA they released yesterday...especially since their saying everywhere that if you did the OTA that was released yesterday, you wont be able to root now...

enjoy your OTA functions LOL..

and what are you talking about, my dual boot on xandroid is 2.1 buddy

You haven't really been reading that much then. It took all of about a couple hours before someone got root over that as well. And, the root process is even easier now. BTW, no one HAS to take OTA updates. It is optional. People like options... something we rarely got with WinMo and something iPhone users will NEVER get.

flyers2114 06-05-2010 04:59 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I think it is a little early to be calling the Droid the winner....if you are going to compare this....at least make it a fair comparison....HD2 vs Droid is more reasonable...


My TP2 vs Hero or Moment...I will take TP2 all day long...

constitutionalist 06-05-2010 07:44 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
What, no mention of the Palm Pre? If the TP2 had that strange, yet alluring Palm Pre chick, I think that would about cover it.

flyers2114 06-05-2010 08:04 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by constitutionalist (Post 1795053)
What, no mention of the Palm Pre? If the TP2 had that strange, yet alluring Palm Pre chick, I think that would about cover it.

How about the palm pixy...lmao

constitutionalist 06-05-2010 08:52 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
LOL Was hoping for an effeminate female human rather than an effeminate phone in the deal!

chardog 06-05-2010 09:29 PM

Wirelessly posted (Opera/9.7 (WindowsMobile; PPC; Opera Mobi/35267; U; en; Presto/2.1.1))

stylus for handwriting, spectacular keyboard, roms, software installation, tethering.

there are plenty of downfalls as well, but they seem to be working themselves out as the phone ages

sunNsnow 06-05-2010 09:53 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I'm torn between the Moto Droid and TP2.

DROID PROS:

The Droid runs quicker than the TP2 and does a better job with battery life (Droid lasts two days on stock battery where TP2 only lasted for one... with an extended battery)

The extensive app store is interesting but since I've only had it for a week, I've not fully explored it

I find the Moto Droid's voice call quality superior to the TP2 ... best I've heard in a smartphone thus far. And, it connects to my car's bluetooth without funky issues. Unlike the TP2.

It's lighter in weight and slimmer than the TP2.


TP2 PROS:

TP2's keyboard is the most awesome ever. Beats Moto Droid hands down (I hate the fact that the Droid does not have dedicated number keys). I also find touch typing on the TP2 easier/more accurate compared to the Droid (frustrating to touch type with).

The TP2 syncs with Outlook (no exchange) without issues. Droid requires file conversions with Gmail, etc. PITA.

TP2 has my favorite RSS news aggregator, Viigo. Droid does not.

TP2's email pull notifications are better than the Droid: it pulls in the time increments as it was set and rings accordingly. The Droid's email system (non-Gmail) only notifies you when it feels like it, even when you set the pull time increments. Not good as a business phone. I had to use a third party email app, but it is still slower than the TP2. Very strange.

These are my observations with the Droid. It's not my main phone.

pimpsuprazx 06-05-2010 10:39 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
my tp2 could play dead

Wesley762 06-05-2010 11:05 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsuprazx (Post 1795348)
my tp2 could play dead

I almost laughed at that one, than it just gave me a sad face. :(

gullzway 06-05-2010 11:28 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I have the typical love/hate with my Touch Pro 2. Sometimes it works Great, other times I can't even answer a call.
I'll usually get bored with the ROM I'm running and try out one of the latest.
Just loaded bignadad's MaxSense and Highly recomend it if your looking for something different. So far it's pretty sweet! http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=122177

Really the only significant advantage it has over the EVO is the money I save each month on my plan(around $25/month after discounts.) I just ordered an EVO on bestbuy.com and it let me keep my current plan, so I'll see what happens, if they actually ship it, when I try to activate it.

chillar15 06-06-2010 12:19 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by edufur (Post 1793548)
This EVO stomps everything. It just works... period! No locks, no issues with PUSH... no problems period. And it BLOWS the iPhones out of the water!

+1...only reason I'm considering the EVO. WinMo is a great OS, and it's powerful...it's just that it takes so much time, effort, and commitment to get running well. I'm tired of having to try so hard to have such an expensive phone work up to standard, and even then it feels like it's still getting left behind because of old hardware and the inherent aging (and really complicated?) design of WinMo. I just want something that works and doesn't need so much time and effort.

joe50000 06-06-2010 12:27 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
I have a real problem with phones that have "soft keys". Even just a few hard keys are always good on a phone.

redd214 06-06-2010 07:45 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
use a sixaxis ps3 controller to play ps games! hes using an hd2 in the video so im not sure how it will workon a tp2, but def. +1 for winmo, while more novelty than anything, you cant deny its frickin sweeeeet!!!!



http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984

pimpsuprazx 06-06-2010 10:17 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley762 (Post 1795432)
I almost laughed at that one, than it just gave me a sad face. :(

lmfao, I'm waiting for something new and winmo to come out

Bootup 06-06-2010 02:39 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed (Post 1794458)
hope your loving that OTA they released yesterday...especially since their saying everywhere that if you did the OTA that was released yesterday, you wont be able to root now...

enjoy your OTA functions LOL..

and what are you talking about, my dual boot on xandroid is 2.1 buddy

wrong

With or without OTA, phone can be rooted.

Xandroid is nice to learn Android on for eventual EVO move..btw, how is your sound out of that? Camera? 5 to 10 minutes time to go back and forth between each system which combined is still half as good as a fully functional Android?

flyers2114 06-06-2010 04:13 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootup (Post 1796546)
wrong

With or without OTA, phone can be rooted.

Xandroid is nice to learn Android on for eventual EVO move..btw, how is your sound out of that? Camera? 5 to 10 minutes time to go back and forth between each system which combined is still half as good as a fully functional Android?


But just being able to dual boot both systems makes it a win...

[sammich] 06-06-2010 05:17 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Thread moved to the Phone Comparison forum

kern417 06-08-2010 04:17 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hiko (Post 1791953)
Hi Everyone,

What can the TP2 do that the iPhone or Droid can't?

for the record, i have a TP2(MM SE).

thanks,
hiko

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiko (Post 1793533)
Wow,

thanks for all the replies. i've only had my TP2 for a few months and now have some new ideas on how to use my phone. time to dust off the slingbox!

like many of you i have friends and family with Droids and iPhones. unfortunately, i don't have much experience with either to fully compare.

when i first got my verizon TP2, it was pretty bad (constant battery drain, slow, lock ups, etc). but after i loaded MR on it, it was much better at everything. still have a couple of small bugs like the screen not changing when going into comm manager and turning on wifi. but that's normally fixed with just going into landscape mode and back. Or the occasional battery drain after a long gaming session that need a soft reset to clear.

One of the main reasons i chose the TP2 was for it's keyboard. coming from a sidekick, i really wanted a descent keyboard to work with. still not as good as the sidekick, but way better than a motorola droid.

i'm also saving $100s of dollars a year with the TP2.

This forum has been awesome in getting my phone just the way i like it with all the tweak/mod .cabs.

but i especially like the posts that call me a troll.:razz:

hiko

Off Topic, and kind of random but...Thread starter has 2 posts in this thread alone, yet his stats say 0? and 5 rep?

um....moderator? :scratch:

redd214 06-08-2010 08:10 AM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1800715)
Off Topic, and kind of random but...Thread starter has 2 posts in this thread alone, yet his stats say 0? and 5 rep?

um....moderator? :scratch:

this thread was originally posted in the tp2 forum. if you look at the main forum page. ubderneath "phone comparison" it says "does not count towards post count". so when it was move down here everyones post count went down. make sense?

kern417 06-08-2010 09:32 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
hmmm interesting....good to know

'CAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER' lol

redd214 06-08-2010 09:48 PM

Re: What can the TP2 do that iPhone or Droid can't?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kern417 (Post 1802584)
hmmm interesting....good to know

'CAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER' lol

no, APPLIED knowledge is power. if you dont use the knowledge youre give than you are no better off than someone who doesnt know jack. lots of phd's are baggin groceries ;)


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