Why is TP2 better than iphone
 

Help me shutup my friends with iphones. Please list some reasons why my TP2 is better so I have some points to debate and shut them up

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Awesome slide out keyboard...I hate the Iphone and all the Iphonies (I phone users) thinking they are better.:headbang:

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You have a choice of providers other than AT&T, many (if not all) of which offer better plan pricing and superior networks.

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That's the biggest advantage right there.

Unlike most users here, I actually LIKE the iphone. There is NO WAY I would switch to the awful ATT service to get one however.

~John

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Apple is technology for idiots. Dumbed-down computer technology with better advertising. You're smarter than them because they need the dumbed-down technology and you don't. You can fully customize anything on your phone and they basically have to suck up what Apple gives them and take it in more ways than one.

We discussed a lot of comebacks and stuff here...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85464

But you also need to know stuff like this:
http://www.whatreallysucks.com/top-1...e-suck-images/

Great funny YouTube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrpS9m2VF1c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UNSfm4Of80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg1-ywndVNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZtbshemzq8

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I hate how apple panders to dumb people in their advertising, its so insulting.

"Our products just WORK, so you NEVER need to think! No maintenance needed, no viruses, no harmful applications, no individuality whatsoever! And its in a pretty, shiny case too. All for the low, low price of $1000 & up for the most base model laptop, the equivalent of which is Kabuk1's $260 Wal-Mart netbook!"

Asinine. But anyway, onto the anvantages of the TP2 over the iPhone.

Removable battery
Removable storage
Hardware keyboard
No software limitations(install whatever the hell you want)
Multiple service providers
No yuppie bull****
Complete customizability

And much more that I can't think of cause I haven't slept in 30 hours.

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"If you've got tons of viruses on your PC, don't worry: it's not your fault! It's because you have a PC instead of a Mac, not because you're a moron opening any email that comes to you and those 6 hours a day you spend on that sketchy online poker website! And don't listen to PC when he comes out with a new Windows version and makes promises! Apple's style is to basically not mention our limitations and release them 3 years after everyone else has them, like we did with the iPhone and MMS! And Apple is great for your image! If you like looking like you have low intelligence and are fans of Paris Hilton and other celebrity idiots, you'll fit right in when you walk into the Apple Store! So if computing is too complicated for you, and you need a simpler lifestyle, feel free to get a Mac! We like to think of it as just going to college and taking all easy 100-level courses. Sure, you got a 4.0, but you're not that smart."

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Sorry, have to say it:

who cares? if they like their iphone, great, if you like your tp 2, great....wtf?

the only way it would really matter is if you worked for or had stock in, one of the two co's. other than that, it's a preference thing. No more important than if I told you I like the color black better than red.

sorry, just my 1/2 cent <after outrageous taxes that our forefathers fought against and we pay without question>

now if you want to talk politics, then we've got a discussion.....

/end rant

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This is kinda funny.

We had a corporate Verizon account with probably 75 phones on it.

The owners Wife decided she just had to have an iphone like all her yuppie friends. Because of this, our owner switched the entire account to ATT & everyone had to buy a new phone (I stayed with VZ service).

Now, everyone on ATT is bitching because the service blows. We have two buildings on our business property. If you walk to the back building you cannot make or receive a call on an ATT phone.......

~John

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I would thank you 500x over if I could. Who fing cares if you have an Iphone, TP2, or a POS free phone? It's all in what you like. Tell them to lick your nuts and move on.

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Tell Them you have a Map for that.

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Omg .. Now thats funny !

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Because it's not as simple as that. If you read the other thread on the iPhone that I posted, you'll see that people are treated differently, especially professionally, based on what they are toting around. Honestly, if I see someone carrying an iPhone, I'm most likely going to think the following about them:
1. They are not that bright, especially when it comes to technology.
2. They cannot think for themselves.
3. They probably don't do research before buying something.

It may not apply for 100% of iPhone owners, but I'm sure going to believe it about them. Will I treat someone differently based on that? You're damn right I will.

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this is the biggest difference. Basically tell them my phone can do everything yours can and more, like wifi router, 5 row keyboard, real mulittasking, real user customizations to not an os made for you by apple, real microsoft word, excel, powerpoint, higher screen resolution, the list goes on and on. The real reason i like my phone is because i utilize almost every possible feature from ms exchange to all those i named above and certain things the iphone wouldn't cut it but honestly its all up to the user.

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I always find the fanboism on both sides of a hardware/software debate to be humorous.

I personally am an avid Windows Mobile and iPhone user. I prefer Windows Mobile for the PDA functions and our internally written audit software, but for entertainment and applications as a whole, I prefer the iPhone.

Anyone could list a ton of reason why either devices are better than one another but the reality is that compared to PDA phones from even 3 years ago, they both kick some serious ass.

Either that or I am an non-technical autonomon who can't read reviews, but what ever.

To the OP, just tell your friends that yours is better because your cooler than they are.

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why do you care if they like the iphone and not the TP2???

these threads are childish IMO, be happy with what you got and let them be happy with what they got.

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we get to have insurance from our provider

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Because neutrality is always boring!

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answers like these are useless. obviously your statement is common sense but he asked a question so obviously he wants to know what the differences are and what makes one better then the other. why is it wrong to ask what makes his phone better. he isn't starting a fight and asked a simple question. if you don't like it press back and read a different thread.

Wirelessly posted (HTC Touch Pro 2: Opera/9.80 (Windows Mobile; WCE; Opera Mobi/WMD-50286; U; en) Presto/2.4.13 Version/10.00)

Really?! Sorry, but that's just stupid. The owner of a company that size (one that has 75+ employees and provides cell phones & service - and probably more), didn't have the sense to say, "sure honey, let's get you an iPhone - just for you", and take just her to the AT&T store? Or am I mistaken, and there is more to the story (she wanted one for herself, and he was thinking AT&T would be more cost-effective, or whatever, so he made the switch). Doesn't make sense to switch 75 people for 1 iPhone.

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I had an iPhone 3GS for 3 weeks and I have to say that I really liked the setup and smoothness of the phone. On the other hand, the phone was worthless because I don't live in a big city and it didn't work at all unless you were in one. Actually, I was restricted to "on network usage only" after only 2 weeks of having the stupid thing. They told me that I was costing them money and I was not a valued customer (because they could not make money off of me). They really said that to me. I have been with Verizon for 14 years (since they formed), and have never had any problems. I didn't last 3 weeks on AT&T. I will NEVER give AT&T another chance. The worst part of it is that I was charged $143 for the 19 days I had the phone and $186 for an ETF. I refused to pay anything and they sent me to collections and finally after 3 months they say they have waived the fees. I still get bills though. This was one of the worst experiences I have had with a large company. Again, the iPhone is OK, but AT&T makes it suck terribly.

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+1, the company owner is an idiot.

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LOL, actually that IS WHAT HE CLAIMED but I have seen the bills for both accounts & that was total BS. He just said that so everyone wouldn't think he was a complete idiot......

The really funny thing is, he got himself an iphone also. A week or so later, I saw him walking around talking on a new Blackberry. When I asked what happened to the iphone, he said he had to dump it because the battery life sucked......

~John

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this is retarded.

My Sisters son is absolutely brilliant (he went to Dartmouth on a full academic scholarship & now works for Nasa). I gave him a TP when he was first considering a PPC & he absolutely hated it. He had no desire whatever to customize it & just wanted something that worked perfectly right out of the box (& nobody has ever said a TP will do that).

He bought an iphone & absolutely loves it. He bought it after trying some of his co-workers iphones (they all love them also)

Not everybody is a geek like the posters here (most PPC users aren't actually). That certainly doesn't make them "technically incompetent" either, my Sister's kid works with real life "rocket scientists" & he is an engineer with two PHD's

~John

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lol :)

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so you are saying that any post here is acceptable as long as its not common sense...??

... this cracked me up...

next thread...

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actually what i'm saying if you could read is that as long as you're trying to answer the op's question its acceptable. you weren't tyring to help, you were making smart remarks and being a jerk. so yes, bounce to the next thread unless you finally want to make some sense.

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higher pixel density, ability to download and save files directly from the web, direct access to the file system both from the phone and computer.

that said, i like my ipod touch for some things, like google reader on safari. the webkit browser works perfectly with it because that's the type of device/browser it was designed for. i can use iris or dorothy to view the same page with similar results, but that's not what i use my phone for. i think of my small apple products as bathroom appliances; the ipod classic i use in the shower speaker setup, and the ipod touch i use to read google reader while on the toilet in the morning feeling groggy...it takes very little precision, and with rubber incase and screen shield and zero moving parts (save the buttons), it's just convenient and worry-free.

also, gsm chirping into speakers during incoming radio signals is an annoyance that i'd rather not have, but being able to swap my phones is a nice thing about gsm and sim cards.

personally, i admire any expression of technology, and like it or not apple, google, microsoft, htc are all expressing their ideas and products. preferring one to another is fine, but the ability to use anything and make it work for you is one of the benefits of being human.

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You even quoted what I said when I said this doesn't apply to 100% of users. Can you not read? So it basically sounds like your nephew is a bright user, unfortunately he has no individualism and can't think for himself (which was actually #2 on my list). And how lovely it is, considering my formula, that he works for the government, because there is just tons of freedom and individuality in government jobs. Ha! I'm sure he's the hit of the party, too.

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go big green!

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you are saying it pretty harsh but i understand what you're saying, the customization you have with the iphone is extremely limited. honestly if i pick up anybody's iphone in my building, right off top i will not be able to tell them apart because they all look the same. if you pick up any winmo phone they all look different and have so many different layouts. apple leaves little user customization.

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there are tradeoffs....

TP2 will have advantages that itll make it hold its own against the iPhone like multitasking, bigger, higher resolution screen, best keyboard in the game, file manager (huge one for me) Web downloading capabilities (another huge one)

but the iPhone will still have the BEST web browser around, BEST media player around, and BEST gaming platform and endless apps. it may not have all the features of winmo, but what it does, it does better....

what rival companies (Palm Pre, Droid etc.) fail to realize is, that if you want to beat the iPhone, you should attack its strengths, not its weaknesses. If you best it at its strenghts, all there are left are weaknesses and no reason to own one anymore rite?? Why flaunt multitasking when it still has the best media player?? Why flaunt a keyboard when it has PSP competitive gaming?? Why flaunt something that the iPhone doesnt have when it still one-ups you on what it does have?? Thats why as much as i want to see one, there isnt a real iPhone killer yet....

there... i contributed to the discussion while maintaining common sense...

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just what i was looking for...a bonfire to roast my popcorn...

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My original Apple hatred came from the ignorant sheep that listened to the commercials and Apple's original marketing ploys (they claimed at one point that Mac users had higher IQs). But lately, it's more to do with the customization and freedom. How the HELL are people buying a piece of technology that doesn't allow you to do what you want to it. That angers me more than anything. I understand that some of it has to do with carrier (which is probably why I'm on T-Mobile because they don't have outrageous plans for data and tethering), but as I read my feeds everyday, be sure to find at least one "Apple blocks app" story every couple days. Either those stories or about how Apple doesn't like it when people jailbreak their phone so they can put what they want on it. UGH. Apple is like the super over-protective parents that need to just let go of the F-ing leash.

The syncing of culture annoys me, too. You can bet that most iPhone users tote their reusable grocery bags and work on their MacBook at Starbucks. UGH.

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Just a couple points to remember about this. I didn't get my phone for the games. I have an 360 and a DS for that. I don't want to walk into a conference room and play a driving game. I want to schedule and work on Excel and Word. I think Windows has always kept that in their mind. It's not easy to make a system for Entertainment work as well for Business. This is why Dell has a business line and a home line of products. Microsoft has always focused on the business line and Apple as the home line.

Also, you have to remember that apps will follow where the people are. Programming is programming. It's the same level of ease/difficulty making an app on Apple as it is on Windows, depending on which system you know already. There are so many apps out there for Apple because of the flock of the public to buy them. Ever ask why there's always the apps coming out for Apple and not for WinMo? It's just because people have been buying the iPhone. You get people to buy more Windows Phones, the apps will flow. Remember: the iPhone has more apps because it's more popular, not because it's a better system.

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Just a quick note that made me chuckle.

I read it in my WMExperts Feed...

"Sure we all know a Touch Pro 2 can smoke an iPhone in terms of functionality, power and even hardware, let alone a HD2, but at the end of the day, it is about branding, marketing, consumer appeal and making it desirable."

http://www.wmexperts.com/wired-weigh...rosoft-blew-it

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true on all points even tough i never said that it was a better system. There are different devices for different styles so its pointless to argue on why one is better than the other.... why would i want a touch pro 2 if im a gamer??? why would i want an iphone if im a buisness user that needs multitasking and a keyboard?? TP2 will one-up the iPhone like the iPhone will one-up the TP2 on different comparisons so its all about preference...

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Exactly, although I didn't want to make it seem like it was an attack on your statements (saying that it's a better system). We all know it's about preference, blah blah blah. But the OP is looking for arguments to make him feel better about his purchase, as his "friends" have been talking up their iPhone around him. There's no better way to feel better about your purchase than to bash the other options. And that's something I get passionate about. It feels good doing the research and knowing more than the average iPhone user. Hell, that post that one person made about his rocket scientist nephew using the iPhone makes me feel like I should be running things at NASA.

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Personally I like the iphone... and like ive said many times before on this forum if it werent for the ability to flash and I had to stick with basic windows mobile I would have switched years ago.

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bashing?? i can do that...

-bigger, higher res screen
-tilting keyboard
-interchangable UI's
-turn by turn directions
-multitasking
-file management
-web downloading
-flash in browser (skyfire)
-facebook integration
-useful homescreen (more data)
-better speaker
-customization
-handwriting recognition
-mobile office suite
-INSURANCE!!!!
-better plan rate

..... need i say more??