New pics of the Raphael

[Noir]

the phone looks sweet I admit just one minor gripe
soft keys
on the 6700 and the 6800 there were two keys that were mapped to press send/contact or cancel or something...
where's that

[hippity.hoppity]

Originally Posted by Noir

the phone looks sweet I admit just one minor gripe
soft keys
on the 6700 and the 6800 there were two keys that were mapped to press send/contact or cancel or something...
where's that

Huh? The send/end keys are right on the front where they've always been. The other two front keys are Home and Back.

I'm not liking the flush touchscreen unless they use a capacitive screen (they're too cheap for that) and the lack of hard buttons. The Raphael has no hard buttons on either side.

[TurboFool]

Originally Posted by hippity.hoppity

Huh? The send/end keys are right on the front where they've always been. The other two front keys are Home and Back.

I'm not liking the flush touchscreen unless they use a capacitive screen (they're too cheap for that) and the lack of hard buttons. The Raphael has no hard buttons on either side.

He's not referring to the phone Send/End, he's referring to the soft buttons that map to onscreen buttons, like Send and Menu in e-mail, for instance. I believe they dropped these because with them use capacitive buttons instead of hard buttons, and the touchscreen being flush with the front, it's just as easy to hit the on-screen implementations as it was to hit the physical buttons, so they become unnecessary.

I am concerned with the decrease in side buttons, though. I use mine quite a bit, and have them heavily customized. The scroll wheel is gone, too, which I use quite often.

[hippity.hoppity]

Originally Posted by TurboFool

He's not referring to the phone Send/End, he's referring to the soft buttons that map to onscreen buttons, like Send and Menu in e-mail, for instance. I believe they dropped these because with them use capacitive buttons instead of hard buttons, and the touchscreen being flush with the front, it's just as easy to hit the on-screen implementations as it was to hit the physical buttons, so they become unnecessary.

I am concerned with the decrease in side buttons, though. I use mine quite a bit, and have them heavily customized. The scroll wheel is gone, too, which I use quite often.

Are you 100% sure about the screen being capacitive? HTC has never done one before.

[TurboFool]

Originally Posted by clockcycle

Diamond has 128mb ram, Raphael has 256mb ram.. nice

The Diamond has 192MB of RAM, not 128, according to the HTC press releases. Whether the carriers decide to change this is unknown, though.

Originally Posted by hippity.hoppity

Are you 100% sure about the screen being capacitive? HTC has never done one before.

I didn't say the screen was capacitive, the buttons are. The screen's the usual resistive, but for some reason they made the front buttons a capacitive touch-sensor instead of hardware buttons or resistive.

[SirNathaniel]

This is AWESOME!! I'm gonna love this quantum leap from the pathetic 64mb ram to 256, this should have been done on the 6700 for cryin out loud! But at least it's finally happening. I must say, I'm actually glad they're making the keyboard slide the same way as the 6700 did, giving the right hand thumb access to the directional pad, that was nicer. Still like the the mogul better than the 6700 of course. But the Raphael is shaping our to be a true iphone pwner! As is of course the diamond. It makes sense to give the Raphael a bit more ram to help it re-render everything when the keyboard slides in/out, cut down on the delay. So if the web browser disappoints...these phones should definitely be able to easily handle Netfront when trying to access bigger pages.

[hippity.hoppity]

Originally Posted by TurboFool

I didn't say the screen was capacitive, the buttons are. The screen's the usual resistive, but for some reason they made the front buttons a capacitive touch-sensor instead of hardware buttons or resistive.

Not sure where you're getting your info but the screen doesn't look capacitive to me. If the screen isn't, the soft buttons aren't either. It looks just like the Touch with soft buttons on the bottom of a generic pressure-sensitive screen.

[SprintTouch08]

well that Android HTC Dream is rumored to be capacitive, but i highly doubt the Raphael or Diamond will be since they have been complete for a while now probably and right about to release. So far i havent seen anyone comment on it, but they look touch sensitive from the demo videos we have.

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/ you guys should really check out this site, the guy has a near release build of a Diamond (just has 128mb RAM and a not final 6.1 build). He answers a lot of these common questions in his daily review videos.

the bottons under the screen are normal mechanical click buttons. the screen is not much better in sunlight than out current ones, but much more rich color- bummer. The 900mah battery was slightly less than the Kaiser by his tests with the same functions running and usage, which is fairly good IMO for such a tiny phone. The 3d UI seemed generally fast from the videos even in test software phase.

Just watch the videos, they show everything the thing can do.

[TurboFool]

Originally Posted by hippity.hoppity

Not sure where you're getting your info but the screen doesn't look capacitive to me. If the screen isn't, the soft buttons aren't either. It looks just like the Touch with soft buttons on the bottom of a generic pressure-sensitive screen.

I just clearly told you the screen's not capacitive. I know the screen's not capacitive. The hands-on reports from Gizmodo were the ones that reported that the buttons (NOT the screen) were capacitive, which surprised them. And I didn't say the SOFT buttons were capacitive, either. I said the BUTTONS (no word soft in front of it) were. That means the physical buttons under the screen (Send, End, Home, and Back) were reported to be capacitive. I'm not stupid enough to think they magically made the bottom part of the screen capacitive, which is why I clearly didn't say they did.