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Soundy 02-12-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by guitardoc64 (Post 184865)
Yeah, in all the looking into this issue I have YET to hear of one single incidence of porn picmail, haven't yet recieved any myself either...

Me neither... dammit. Where do I sign up for that?? :mrgreen:

guitardoc64 02-12-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wldthng842 (Post 184880)
You are paying for a service that you know is not supported, I view it as more you being an Removed by Moderator than Sprint doing something wrong. I understand paying for it if it enables a hack and Sprint looks the other way. But if there was never a hack in the first place would you pay for it? If so then yes, you are an idiot proving my first statement correct. If no, then why are you still paying for a service you know doesn't work?

First off, do we have to resort to insults?

I am in the category of those who added picmail to my non-supported phone last year. I paid $5 a month for the added service and Sprint took my money and provided the service, no questions asked. They took the money even after the vision package included picmail. Then they blocked it. Even BrettW over at sprintusers conceded my point.

Soundy 02-12-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wldthng842 (Post 184866)
Porn, maybe not but spam MMS, yes sir, happens all the time and I know it is something they want to eliminate. Granted this is NOT a permanent solution that is acceptable.

So the question is, how does this stop the spammers from simply getting a cheap non-PPC phone to perpetuate their spam?

This argument is bullshit. If they'd killed picmail completely, for everyone, it MIGHT fly... the fact that it's only disabled for PPC phones kills it utterly. The fact that few, if any, other carriers appears to feel it's necessary to deny this feature ONLY to PPC users doesn't help Sprint's story much either.

jparks29 02-12-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wldthng842 (Post 184880)
You are paying for a service that you know is not supported, I view it as more you being an idiot than Sprint doing something wrong. I understand paying for it if it enables a hack and Sprint looks the other way. But if there was never a hack in the first place would you pay for it? If so then yes, you are an idiot proving my first statement correct. If no, then why are you still paying for a service you know doesn't work?

I have SERO, it's 'bundled'...I'm paying for the service. When I bought my phone, I was told I could send MMS, WTF is a camera doing in a phone if you can't send pics from it? (I know, email/file transfer, but still)

ajones7279 02-12-2008 11:33 PM

Ok....I was receiving diff porn type spam from unknown senders all the time but it continued to happen sometimes after Arcsoft stopped working. Doesn't happen anymore though

ajones7279 02-12-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jparks29 (Post 184916)
I have SERO, it's 'bundled'...I'm paying for the service. When I bought my phone, I was told I could send MMS, WTF is a camera doing in a phone if you can't send pics from it? (I know, email/file transfer, but still)

Lol I agree with that. Why put a camera on a phone without being able to share/send them with ease? That doesn't make much sense. The email workaround isn't an easy way. I mean, who knows ALL of their contacts' carriers? I meet new people all the time meaning new numbers all the time and I never think to ask "Oh yea, who's your carrier? Just in case I need to send u a picture" If it wasn't that hard to be sent thru Arcsoft, it shouldn't be too hard for sprint to have a program etc to send pics

Pibe38 02-12-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bikermanb (Post 184768)
that is where you are wrong, wldthng842 , I was told when I purchased this phone that picture mail very good on this phone. in fact I said about 5 times that I send alot of text pics and The lady said no problem, therefore false advertising by sprint personell. as a matter of fact I didnt care when I found out it didnt work,cause the hack worked great, then sprint blocked it. I went into the store and said something to the gal about pic mail not textable, she said ya I JUST found out, and she has alot of mad customers and was already getting alot of returns and expected alot more. Pisses me off cause i love the phone, but now not sure what I want to do.

Yours is definately an isolated incident, and you should ask for compensation. At least get your ETF waived due to the fact that you kept your phone after the 30 days trial period under the impression that it included something it does not.

However, this is not the case for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 184904)
So the question is, how does this stop the spammers from simply getting a cheap non-PPC phone to perpetuate their spam?

This argument is bullshit. If they'd killed picmail completely, for everyone, it MIGHT fly... the fact that it's only disabled for PPC phones kills it utterly. The fact that few, if any, other carriers appears to feel it's necessary to deny this feature ONLY to PPC users doesn't help Sprint's story much either.

From the stamement I read they did not mean that by blocking our devices they blocked the spammers, but that the measures implemented to block the spammers had the side effect of blocking or devices.

And as a final warning... please do not insult other members, it is against the rules and just uncalled for.

Draiko 02-13-2008 12:41 AM

The carriers want to switch everyone over to email usage... that way they don't have to host 1.3+ megapixel pictures on their servers. All those Mobile phone providers shift the costs of storing and sending Picturemail over to the ISPs and Free webmail hosts (google, yahoo, MS...). Am I the only one who sees this?!

wldthng842 02-13-2008 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by guitardoc64 (Post 184903)
First off, do we have to resort to insults?

I am in the category of those who added picmail to my non-supported phone last year. I paid $5 a month for the added service and Sprint took my money and provided the service, no questions asked. They took the money even after the vision package included picmail. Then they blocked it. Even BrettW over at sprintusers conceded my point.

I understand your point but you received a working version of MMS while paying for it thus far, it now is back to the way is supposed to be and you are entitled to stop paying the fee.

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 184904)
So the question is, how does this stop the spammers from simply getting a cheap non-PPC phone to perpetuate their spam?

This argument is bullshit. If they'd killed picmail completely, for everyone, it MIGHT fly... the fact that it's only disabled for PPC phones kills it utterly. The fact that few, if any, other carriers appears to feel it's necessary to deny this feature ONLY to PPC users doesn't help Sprint's story much either.


Regular phones are very difficult to write programs for, PPC's are very easy to write programs for, especially one that simply sends lots of MMS messages on a client that is already there, this is not BS. It is easy to block any outside user that sends more than X in under Y number of minutes, it is however not easy to distinguish whether an authorized user is sending 50 spam messages or 50 MMS of a friend doing something stupid at a party to all their friends.

And lastly. Sorry about calling jparks29 an idiot. I did not read the post after typing it and my GF had been nagging me for over an hour to take my new puppy out and get him ready for bed. I was hurrying to finish and attend to the dog. Please accept my apology, I have also edited the post to attempt to say what I was actually thinking. I know better and should have caught it. I am truly sorry.

Soundy 02-13-2008 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pibe38 (Post 184928)
From the stamement I read they did not mean that by blocking our devices they blocked the spammers, but that the measures implemented to block the spammers had the side effect of blocking or devices.

That still doesn't make sense - why would that block it for PPC phones but not for regular phones? And again the question, what's the stop the spammers from using a regular phone that does support MMS? Or for that matter, an MMS gateway of their own?

Sorry, but it's still a BS excuse.


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