Logic behind flashing phones multiple times

[wizziko]

Originally Posted by evertec

well... that's not entirely true. I've had several times where no amount of hard resets would get the phone working right. Only a flash to stock then to the updated rom would get it working again. Not sure of the logic behind it, but it seems to especially be true with 6.5.

yes I had that problem the other day with NFSFAN's 6.5 ROMs. I tried flashing back to older versions of his ROM but it would get stuck on the splash screen every time after the flash. I actually flashed back to an old Whosdaman 6.1 ROM and then flashed back to NFSFAN's ROM

[hexto]

I have never once flashed a ROM multiple times. Don't see a need to. Then again, I never end up with the issues I read others complaining about. Most sound like either unreasonable expectations of the phone/ROM or user error. I flash once and things just work. If not, I move on to another ROM and/or wait for updates.

[640k]

In on this. I think it's a load of BS too. I've been stuck on one dude's ROM for some time and it's the worst quality of any that I've experienced. The problem is, it's the only ROM I've every used that actually has the things to do what I want. So alot of the minor/annoying hiccups, bugs, etc., I deal with until the next version.

However, on multiple occasions, I have run into scenarios where my phone will suddenly decided to start hard-resetting itself. For a ROM that never touches the radio/boot screens, it sure causes alot of problems in those areas.

"Upgrading" the radio is such a pita considering what you have to deal with at customer support to get your phone working again.

[Reddog80p]

Originally Posted by 640k

In on this. I think it's a load of BS too. I've been stuck on one dude's ROM for some time and it's the worst quality of any that I've experienced. The problem is, it's the only ROM I've every used that actually has the things to do what I want. So alot of the minor/annoying hiccups, bugs, etc., I deal with until the next version.

However, on multiple occasions, I have run into scenarios where my phone will suddenly decided to start hard-resetting itself. For a ROM that never touches the radio/boot screens, it sure causes alot of problems in those areas.

"Upgrading" the radio is such a pita considering what you have to deal with at customer support to get your phone working again.

You must be getting half wit csa's. When I've flashed a new radio in the past i've never had to wait on the phone more than a few minutes to get rid of the authentication problem.

[crobs808]

Flashing the same ROM image multiple times is a load of crap. It is a digital device, not an analog connection, that is subject to interference or dropouts during transfer...it is an all or none process. If you can boot into the new ROM after you flash once, then you are done...doing it again just wastes time and double flashing is for the OCD/paranoid people. The second flash does not do anything extra that the first flash didn't already do.

[codybear]

Actually, it really does help.
Little tid bits of information get stuck behind from your programs folder, and a few other things. Sometimes, it will not cause problems, but for the most part,it really does help.
ESPECIALLY if you use a rom like NFSFAN's. He mods TONS of items throughout the entire phone, and that causes most of the problems when flashing to a new version.

I've lived by hard resetting, flashing 2-3times, and then good to go.
I've never had the problems that most people report on this website and xda.
If you read all of my posts, about 50% of them will be something along the lines of weird, I've never had this problem.
Also, another problem that occurs while flashing is having other programs running on your computer while you flash, it bogs down the RUU and can cause problems while flashing.

Just because it's suppose to cover all of the old information, doesn't mean it will.
Things don't always work as they are designed to, I mean, look at the U.S. Government.

[GT!]

Originally Posted by codybear

Actually, it really does help.
Little tid bits of information get stuck behind from your programs folder, and a few other things. Sometimes, it will not cause problems, but for the most part,it really does help.
ESPECIALLY if you use a rom like NFSFAN's. He mods TONS of items throughout the entire phone, and that causes most of the problems when flashing to a new version.

I've lived by hard resetting, flashing 2-3times, and then good to go.
I've never had the problems that most people report on this website and xda.
If you read all of my posts, about 50% of them will be something along the lines of weird, I've never had this problem.
Also, another problem that occurs while flashing is having other programs running on your computer while you flash, it bogs down the RUU and can cause problems while flashing.

Just because it's suppose to cover all of the old information, doesn't mean it will.
Things don't always work as they are designed to, I mean, look at the U.S. Government.

You can't conclude that it really helps just because you are not affected by problems that happen to others. There are lots of people, myself included, that do not experience those problems either and I have never flashed multiple times. Also, it doesn't matter how many bits are modded by the rom ... the new one overwrites it. You say bits are left behind in your program folder ... I think this is impossible.

-GT

[codybear]

For some reason when I go to edit, it deletes my previous text, but basically what I was mainly referring to is that it solves tons of problems that people have while flashing, especially with heavily modded roms like Nfsfans.

I didn't believe it till I did it with his roms(all I really run on my phones now..)
and it has made a WORLD of difference in performance.
There's no mistaking it as a placebo.
He does basically rewrite a pretty good amount of the DLL's and Core OS files.

[vin255764]

Interesting...I never had problems with custom ROMs,just 1 flash is enough for me.
But when I flashed to shipped exe ROM,it worked weird,did reflash and it worked much better.Im almost forgot how wm6.1 looks lol.Im sure its carriers junk and from tonns of NFSFANs dlls only 1 can cause the issues-its epst,I think...

[CozBoogie]

Moved to the general Vogue Forum.

late,
Coz