Can't we all just get along?

**Whosdaman** · #1 (**permalink**) 03-18-2009, 10:50 PM

Look, I know everyone has there big thing that they have to keep secret, but do you think the GSM people at XDA keep their stuff secret forever?

The answer is no, and you know why because they work together to get things accomplished. You want to know why Vogue doesn't have a working OpenGL driver yet? Or why we don't have TF3D? Or even a stable Windows 6.5? One reason, stingy people. If people didn't hide everything they think is so great, we could have it all. This is the best CMDA device after Touch Pro and Diamond, yet we lack in everything. Kaiser, Polaris, and Nike all have a working OpenGL driver and TF3D fully compatible. All are GSM and two are older and worse than the HTC Vogue.

http://www.htcclassaction.org/driver...ate_20081009_1

The Nike is the only one that is understandable because it's the HTC Vogue but with Diamond guts. The other two, Polaris (Touch Cruise #1) and Kaiser (TyNT), are older, but yet they are working on getting the new TF3D2 from Touch Pro 2 (Rhodium). Why aren't we???

I know the ROM protection thing is always a constant nessisarity, but why? To protect your new Task Manager? Or your new M2D version that someone will eventually get? It's gotten pethatic. I don't use protection and I shouldn't have to. If you take something from my ROM to use in yours, just give me credit and I'm fine.

Alright, so you don't want people picking through your ROM, well how about posting your OEMs, CABs, or the secret stuff you find that could benefit the community. For instance, NFSFAN and violent worked on this DLL (below) for as long as I can remember and they could barely get TF3D to work. If this would have been released to us in the public besides in one location, which was just a few weeks ago, would could have it fully working with all the help we had. They worked on that thing since September of last year. Now everyone who knows anything about the Vogue is gone.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ghlight=opengl

Look at this, Kaiser has almost fully working TF3D HD....how about that?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470363

So again, why can't we all just get along and share? I mean, sure if you want to hide something from everyone, at least give up the old stuff so the community can better use it. We might accomplish something if that would happen.

EDIT: You know what else comes with the OpenGL Drivers? S2U2 and S2P OpenGL images. Also anything else that uses OpenGL as their image producer. And if you have ever used a device or program that uses OpenGL, it is much FASTER and MUCH better quaility (looks a lot crisper).

Thanks for reading,
Whosdaman

chronodrago · #2 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 12:24 AM

Well said! I am definitely in agreement with you.

natefish · #3 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 11:09 AM

I agree. You should post this in the general discussion so that the folks who work on the other devices can see this. It is pretty pathetic that the Vogue doesn't have TF3D yet. The Vogue used to be everyone's favorite device to tweak.

deegimus · #4 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by natefish

I agree. You should post this in the general discussion so that the folks who work on the other devices can see this. It is pretty pathetic that the Vogue doesn't have TF3D yet. The Vogue used to be everyone's favorite device to tweak.

Hear, hear!
And it's still the smallest form factor, which is what keeps me from moving to a new phone.
Everyone wins when we collaborate.
Have integrity, give credit where it's due, but for Pete's sake don't hold back the knowledge!

**Whosdaman** · #5 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 03:43 PM

lol, i could make a post in the general discussion, but i have to write a whole other essay

...it's alright though I'll do it tonight

BlkCat · #6 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 08:45 PM

I agree completely. I was just wondering why theres no 6.5 Rom for the Vogue even though there is a QVGA Kitchen. I'm not good enough with cooking roms to work on that, but I could probably help work out the bugs if somebody who COULD cook something like that would and released it.

**Whosdaman** · #7 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BlkCat

I agree completely. I was just wondering why theres no 6.5 Rom for the Vogue even though there is a QVGA Kitchen. I'm not good enough with cooking roms to work on that, but I could probably help work out the bugs if somebody who COULD cook something like that would and released it.

He he he....

#8 (**permalink**) 03-19-2009, 09:07 PM

thanks for saying what a lot of us wanted to say for a long time.... the teamwork of xda is what makes me keep tabs over there rather than here, i wish it would be here all the time but you stated what has stumped the hacking innovations in the community

ali3nfr3ak · #9 (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 12:16 AM

Very nicely said whosdaman... how about you lead the way by sharing your new sms messaging tab fix for manilla that i have asked you to share a couple times??

Juno420 · #10 (**permalink**) 03-20-2009, 12:20 AM

Can somebody tell me whats the difference between tf2d and tf3d? WM6.1 and 6.5?Is it more then updated dlls?
Would be nice if people will start attaching all necessary tools to work with.Im also wondering is there any way to hack manilla2d.exe or 3d.exe itself(Im not talking about dumping).Im sure there is a way,but where to find tools?