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deadparrot 05-12-2008 10:59 PM

Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I've read so many different things..disable means enable, enable means enable..

the roms i've flashed have had it set to enable..and I am unable to conclude based on my own tests which one is right or if it even makes a difference.

So what has been everyones experience? Has there been a universally accepted answer yet?

kgphat25 05-12-2008 11:29 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I would love to know this as well because I tried them both out, and Enable got me faster upload speeds, but download speeds are the same with both.

cansofspam 05-12-2008 11:36 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgphat25 (Post 280907)
I would love to know this as well because I tried them both out, and Enable got me faster upload speeds, but download speeds are the same with both.

not surprising, since more or less:
Rev A serves only to decrease latency and increase upload

CareTake12 05-12-2008 11:38 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Everyone is complaining about gps not locking on but for me i never broke 1000kb on my phone yet... i rather have faster dl speed then gps.

HeXDeMoN 05-12-2008 11:44 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
it saying "enable" i got double the download and upload speeds and half the latency then when i manually changed it to "disable" because everyone was saying enable = disable and disable = enable. But my own tests show differnt. Maybe they changed how it works in the leaked sprint rom *shrugs*

Hafrust 05-12-2008 11:55 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Enable = DISABLED, Disable = ENABLED. This has been discussed in depth with screen shots of speedtest comparisons in other posts.

CareTake12 05-13-2008 12:00 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
where do i check the setting to enable rev A

Hafrust 05-13-2008 12:14 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
You can either do ##778#, then select data parameters, or you can go through file explorer to the windows folder and open the program EPST and select data parameters.

MightyM0use 05-13-2008 12:27 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
we need an unlock code to change anything though. I can get mine no problem, if it's worth doing. Is it?

CareTake12 05-13-2008 01:28 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripdub1 (Post 280971)
You can either do ##778#, then select data parameters, or you can go through file explorer to the windows folder and open the program EPST and select data parameters.



I'm not sure set as disable the rev A, but for sure it recognize my phone now... not as a touch but as mogul... lol...

dew.man 05-13-2008 07:41 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripdub1 (Post 280941)
Enable = DISABLED, Disable = ENABLED. This has been discussed in depth with screen shots of speedtest comparisons in other posts.

Not sure where you found that (and don't feel like looking for it), but I DEFINITELY have Rev A, and mine is set to Enabled. So, at least in my case, you've got that backwards.

YMMV

DarkLord 05-13-2008 07:44 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CareTake12 (Post 280916)
Everyone is complaining about gps not locking on but for me i never broke 1000kb on my phone yet... i rather have faster dl speed then gps.

me too!!!

k000 05-13-2008 08:06 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Sorry - how do I confirm if I got Rev A or not please ? I went to ESPT but could not see anything resembling Rev A...

If someone already kows the threads this has been discussed please post the link, that would be helpful.

Thanks

deadparrot 05-13-2008 08:29 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by k000 (Post 281157)
Sorry - how do I confirm if I got Rev A or not please ? I went to ESPT but could not see anything resembling Rev A...

If someone already kows the threads this has been discussed please post the link, that would be helpful.

Thanks


It's under Data Parameters in the Menu..

And yes if anyone can post a link to the thread where this has been discussed before it would be helpful for anyone coming to this one for information..

specv 05-13-2008 08:42 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deadparrot (Post 281168)
It's under Data Parameters in the Menu..

And yes if anyone can post a link to the thread where this has been discussed before it would be helpful for anyone coming to this one for information..

This is true and it was PROVED that with the titan disabled really meant enabled, or it just didnt matter either way. This thread exists I just cant seem to find it, but that is what the general consensus decided on. I just did the same comparison disabling and enabling and sure enough enable REALLY means enable with the vouge. It could have been an oversight with the titan with the double negative thing.

By default it is set to enable and I 110% have rev A speeds. Disabling it without a doubt certainly disabled RevA

deadparrot 05-13-2008 09:31 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by specv (Post 281176)
This is true and it was PROVED that with the titan disabled really meant enabled, or it just didnt matter either way. This thread exists I just cant seem to find it, but that is what the general consensus decided on. I just did the same comparison disabling and enabling and sure enough enable REALLY means enable with the vouge. It could have been an oversight with the titan with the double negative thing.

By default it is set to enable and I 110% have rev A speeds. Disabling it without a doubt certainly disabled RevA

Yes I have to agree with you. I was at home last night but I'm at work now where I am sure I have Rev A coverage. But having it set to enabled I am getting double download speeds. I'm not sure what the deal was with the Titan but on my vogue:

ENABLE = ENABLE

Scooter_in_WI 05-13-2008 09:49 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I never even thought of this until I read this thread. I always wondered why, after upgrading my radio and ROM, that I still wasn't getting what should be "Rev A" speeds. So I checked my settings and seen that is was set to "Enable". Just for poops and giggles, I changed it:

With the setting "Enabled" 665kbs download
With the setting "Disabled" 995kbs download

I know what has been discussed but I'm sticking with keeping it set to "Disabled" which sets it to enabled.

matthew23 05-13-2008 10:06 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
i cannot find data parametersunder PST. I have JD's super lite ROM (latest) which is apparently based off of the leaked sprint ROM. Because he uses another dialer (vista, I believe), I have to use the phone codes cab floating around here to get access to the PST settings. Under data parameters, the only thing I see is "packet data string" which is set to #777. Do I have to do something else to see my revA settings?

thanks in advance.

hotbyz168 05-13-2008 10:11 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I was one of the people who started that thread about the titan radio and rev.a disable/enable situation. When it was discovered on the titan it was indeed backwards from what everyone thought. It was as if it was asking you Rev.A is enabled would you like to disable? I did countless speed test with my titanand the only way i could get rev.A upload speeds was by leaving the setting saying "disable". Since the "leaked" vogue radio came out, the first thing i did was to check and see if it was there. Sure enough it was and was set to "enable". On the titan it was default set to "disable". What it seems like to me is since there was so much confusion about what was what sprint reversed it with the vogue. With my vogue set to "enable", i get upload speeds when tethered up to around 500k with latency around 100. With it on disable, my uploads have not gone past 120k and my latency has been over 200. That is def not Rev A. Download speeds are irelevant as they really wont change. So my conclusion is that with the vogue sprint finally made the setting make sense, and it is the opposite compared to the titan.

hotbyz168 05-13-2008 10:13 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew23 (Post 281241)
i cannot find data parametersunder PST. I have JD's super lite ROM (latest) which is apparently based off of the leaked sprint ROM. Because he uses another dialer (vista, I believe), I have to use the phone codes cab floating around here to get access to the PST settings. Under data parameters, the only thing I see is "packet data string" which is set to #777. Do I have to do something else to see my revA settings?

thanks in advance.

Install the sprint rom first, it contains the new sprint radio...

matthew23 05-13-2008 11:31 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotbyz168 (Post 281251)
Install the sprint rom first, it contains the new sprint radio...

I believe I already have the new radio (3.37.15??). I think JD's rom is based on the leaked ROM. I have flashed the sprint leaked ROM twice now and ended up going back to JD's latest lite ROM. Any way to check this?? When my phone starts up it says 3.37.15 in red....

specv 05-13-2008 11:37 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter_in_WI (Post 281218)
I never even thought of this until I read this thread. I always wondered why, after upgrading my radio and ROM, that I still wasn't getting what should be "Rev A" speeds. So I checked my settings and seen that is was set to "Enable". Just for poops and giggles, I changed it:

With the setting "Enabled" 665kbs download
With the setting "Disabled" 995kbs download

I know what has been discussed but I'm sticking with keeping it set to "Disabled" which sets it to enabled.

maybe you are not in a RevA coverage and with it on you get slower speeds because of the coverage. With it off it doesnt try to do RevA and therefor it can go a bit faster

thracky 05-13-2008 11:48 AM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Maybe this is a tad unrelated but I also do not see the RevA option, but maybe because Bell Mobility has not rolled it out into Canada yet? Can anyone else on Bell confirm this?

Phone Wala 05-13-2008 12:01 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I have the same problem (also on bell) I got GPS going 3.37.10 Radio but no REV A option.

Hafrust 05-13-2008 12:15 PM

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I don't know why people keep saying they can't find any other posts regarding this issue. It's been discussed in many different threads ever since Sprint released the Rev A update for the mogul a couple months ago. All you have to do is SEARCH. As I have said before, it has been confirmed that disable = ENABLED and enable = DISABLED. Either way, it won't make too much of a difference in your download speeds because Rev A increases upload speeds more than anything.

mindfrost82 05-13-2008 12:17 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tripdub1 (Post 281398)
I don't know why people keep saying they can't find any other posts regarding this issue. It's been discussed in many different threads ever since Sprint released the Rev A update for the mogul a couple months ago. All you have to do is SEARCH. As I have said before, it has been confirmed that disable = ENABLED and enable = DISABLED. Either way, it won't make too much of a difference in your download speeds because Rev A increases upload speeds more than anything.

I haven't tried to search since it doesn't really matter to me either way, but one reason I can think of is that enable and disable are pretty common words on this site, so searching will probably show a ton of unrelated threads.

EDIT: And that has been confirmed on the Titan, but nobody has really confirmed it on the Touch yet.

clockcycle 05-13-2008 12:24 PM

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On the MOGUL w/ 3.35 ROM "disable = enable".

On the TOUCH w/ leaked 3.02 ROM "enable = enable"

Tested, I get twice the throughtput and half the latency.

-CC

mindfrost82 05-13-2008 12:32 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Here are my speed tests using the same server from the same location, with the same signal strength only minutes apart:

With setting showing enable:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/270863816.png

With setting showing disable:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/270865609.png

So based on that, I would say that on the Touch with the leaked ROM, Enable = Enabled, unlike the Mogul.

tstack77 05-13-2008 12:45 PM

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http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=158321

mindfrost82 05-13-2008 12:59 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tstack77 (Post 281427)

I'm not sure how true that is because people have been reporting speed differences and ping differences. Granted and any given moment a connection to a server might be different, it does appear to make a difference.

Those that say Enable=Enable have consistently gotten faster uploads and lower pings than when its set to disable.

cpm199 05-13-2008 01:08 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyM0use (Post 280989)
we need an unlock code to change anything though. I can get mine no problem, if it's worth doing. Is it?

how do we get an unlock code?

tstack77 05-13-2008 01:26 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Call Sprint and ask them for you phone's MSL. That's the code.

specv 05-13-2008 02:07 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hotbyz168 (Post 281249)
I was one of the people who started that thread about the titan radio and rev.a disable/enable situation. When it was discovered on the titan it was indeed backwards from what everyone thought. It was as if it was asking you Rev.A is enabled would you like to disable? I did countless speed test with my titanand the only way i could get rev.A upload speeds was by leaving the setting saying "disable". Since the "leaked" vogue radio came out, the first thing i did was to check and see if it was there. Sure enough it was and was set to "enable". On the titan it was default set to "disable". What it seems like to me is since there was so much confusion about what was what sprint reversed it with the vogue. With my vogue set to "enable", i get upload speeds when tethered up to around 500k with latency around 100. With it on disable, my uploads have not gone past 120k and my latency has been over 200. That is def not Rev A. Download speeds are irelevant as they really wont change. So my conclusion is that with the vogue sprint finally made the setting make sense, and it is the opposite compared to the titan.

this is the conclusion I came to

TITAN -> disable means enable
Vogue -> enable means enable

glassr 05-13-2008 09:42 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
I successfully installed leaked rom. GPS and everything seems to work fine except my data speeds are awful. I am in Baltimore/DC area and before the upgrade, Rev 0 seemed to work fine. Am I missing something?

hotbyz168 05-14-2008 02:02 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matthew23 (Post 281342)
I believe I already have the new radio (3.37.15??). I think JD's rom is based on the leaked ROM. I have flashed the sprint leaked ROM twice now and ended up going back to JD's latest lite ROM. Any way to check this?? When my phone starts up it says 3.37.15 in red....

Uhm...What rom are you currently using? Put the leaked rom on it and try again it should work. I'm using the kitchen and I have the setting.

SprintTouch08 05-14-2008 02:37 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
i think the biggest misconception going on here and in the poll is people are basing this on download speeds. Rev A will NOT increase your download speeds significantly that you will be able to tell without a doubt.

As mindfrost did on the last page, the ONLY way to really tell is tether to your computer and run a speedtest and look at the upload speeds. Anything less than about 200kb upload is rev 0, and anything over if for sure rev A. Id agree with him from tethering tests enable=enable.

Lets not spread anymore misconceptions than already being portrayed here. Everyone needs to use upload speeds and latency and the ONLY indicators (and be in a rev A area), not use dslreports on your phone's PIE and say you have conclusive results. and can we please stop linking Mogul threads and not doing anything scientific, this is a Vogue- different phone, different ROM.

glassr 05-14-2008 03:08 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SprintTouch08 (Post 282895)
i think the biggest misconception going on here and in the poll is people are basing this on download speeds. Rev A will NOT increase your download speeds significantly that you will be able to tell without a doubt.

As mindfrost did on the last page, the ONLY way to really tell is tether to your computer and run a speedtest and look at the upload speeds. Anything less than about 200kb upload is rev 0, and anything over if for sure rev A. Id agree with him from tethering tests enable=enable.

Lets not spread anymore misconceptions than already being portrayed here. Everyone needs to use upload speeds and latency and the ONLY indicators (and be in a rev A area), not use dslreports on your phone's PIE and say you have conclusive results. and can we please stop linking Mogul threads and not doing anything scientific, this is a Vogue- different phone, different ROM.

I hear you, but look at these whack results from the same place.

Inside mobilespeedtest was between 600-800. Tethered - Speedtest.net 724 down 340 up NY server, 661 down 150 up DC server, 295 down 160 up when tested NY again.

Speakeasy.net 408 down 432 up NY server, 367 down 442 up DC server.

SprintTouch08 05-14-2008 03:25 PM

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the up is all that matters though. 3-500 up is 100000% rev A

glassr 05-14-2008 03:31 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SprintTouch08 (Post 282954)
the up is all that matters though. 3-500 up is 100000% rev A

What about the 150 and 160 up taken minutes apart from the others? Shouldn't the download speeds be greater than 295, 408 and 367?

It seems like my dl speeds have decreased since I upgraded to the leaked rom. Slingplayer is worse.

tgrunwald 05-14-2008 06:13 PM

Re: Rev A.. Enabled or Disabled?
 
How Do I Check My Speeds?


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