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Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by ImCoKeMaN (Post 270263)

My warning is because i have a phone where i flashed a titan radio and it is bricked (there was a specific testing scenario invloved). It will not be able to just flash back because it is stuck in download mode. I have not been able to retest this theory on the new 2.xx SPL however as i have yet to recieve another vogue for testing, but it should be here soon. I am still reluctant to make this my first test though as my standard recommendation is don't flash any radio roms when it isnt absolutely necessary. The reason for that is because if it does just have a flash error even the radio is a lower level than the SPL so you can't flash back! That being said, if you go GPS, don't go back. If you went to any GPS even titan, don't go to another radio. There are still parts of the radio which i believe do not get overwritten. I know this is the case with titan, but have yet to positively verify on the 2.31 vogue SPL. Additionally, the titan and vogue have different low level setups. The SPL's aren't compatible, so why use something lower level (radio loads SPL) from a different device to load the SPL?

Bottom line: Radio flashes are much more risky than OS flashes and can permantently brick your device, but going GPS is worth a one time risk.

Would the newly discovered recovery of "Stuck in Download Mode" (now covered in Complete FAQ Sticky) have recovered your brick?

Is running the Alltel Vogue Radio ROM in a Sprint Vogue just as risky or is that considered safe because it is for the same physical device?

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

so wait, does this mean that now that ive flashed to the 3.35 radio im in the clear and dont have to worry about bricking my phone, or is this an eventuality and I should look to flashing back? or should i stay on this radio? and if i were to go back to the 3.37, would it even be possible?

im guessing since im already on a 2.XX unlocker, wouldnt i just install the alltell rom right over?

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by ptfdmedic (Post 270209)

I was not referring to Icokeman. I was just asking what peoples thoughts were on the long term safety. Also I believe Icokeman was refering to just flashing the radio before JD figured out how to "safely" flash it. I just keep heariing conflicting info and was just wondering what the general consenses was. I was certianly not trying to question ICokeman sense I hadn't read that....

C'mon guys, flashing radios from other devices is just folly waiting to happen, and when those devices have known hardware differences it's even more stupid. It's certainly not something you should casually recommend to every person walking down the street. Particularly when there's a device specific radio with the same primary features readily available.

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A lot of people (including me) have been using the 3.35 radio with no problems at all. It's actually better, and works great with the newer ROMS. Flashing the radio is not that big of a deal, it can always be flashed back to the older one, or to newer ones. I'm really enjoying the revA speeds and GPS. It's one of the top reasons I got this phone in the first place. Just follow the instructions that are posted!

3.35 may have the appearance of working better for you, but that doesn't mean it's better for everyone or safe.

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**Edit - when I had the ATT TyTn last year, we were flashing radios all the time. Just look on XDA to see how many there are available for that device, they came from carriers all over the world and people just tried different ones to see which gave them the best reception. Flash away, Flash Flash Flash!

That's just ignorant. Not only should you not take flashing your radio lightly, but that's entirely different than flashing radios from a device known to be different.

The answer to the original posters question of is flashing Titan 3.35 radio safe is a definitive "it is not advised". It never was, and it never will be. The apparent lack of harm of doing so does not change the reccomendation, and presence of a device specific GPS radio reinforces it.

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by mixxy (Post 270357)

You can flash to 3.37 by installing the alltel radio. You can't exactly "go back to non-gps", though you can flash a non-gps radio. You probably won't brick your phone by leaving Titan 3.35 on it, but who knows what the future might hold. My general recommendation is don't flash your radio unless you are having problems.

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

if you want a safer way to go to the 3.35 radio then search for a thread by darkflame808 called a safer way to get rev-a. id post the link but the wife has the pc on myspace lock down so im posting this through my touch. ive tested it and went back and forth between 3.35 and 3.37 with no problems. no need to downgrade the cokeman either.

enjoy!

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I hate to mention it, especially since it's quite likely no one has a clue, but the topic of this thread brings to mind something I've thought about for a while now yet never got around to researching...

It would be interesting to find out if any of this pulling pieces off of other phones and hacking them onto our Frankenphones has caused any radiation increases... Not that I think that this is really a concern, but how is anyone to know.
Heck I can't even figure out why my phone is sometimes making a high pitch "eeeeee" noise now...

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 270322)

can you post a link to this? im interested in reading it. the only "faq" i found was on the vogue main forum, it had no such fix in it. thx.

I cant answer your flashing question as well as cokeman can, but i think anytime you flash your device it is a risk. Less problems with the same hardware to hardware flash, and even less problems with same hardware/carrier flash.

As for the radiation, last i heard the 3.35 radio was measured to release 1.21 gigawatts of radiation. However, talking and driving 88mph has been speculated to reverse it.

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by jamesjay (Post 270654)

As for the radiation, last i heard the 3.35 radio was measured to release 1.21 gigawatts of radiation. However, talking and driving 88mph has been speculated to reverse it.

Bravo, McFly. I LOL'd.

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

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Originally Posted by mswlogo (Post 270322)

You sure you don't mean stuck in bootloader after Alltel flash (from the Complete TUTORIAL sticky)? I actually helped people come up with that solution so i would have definitely tried it myeslf.

Download mode is very specific it means a black screen and is as of yet unrecoverable. i don't see any posts on ppcgeeks that solve that issue. If i am wrong please point me in the right direction though! I have been talking to someone that is working on a download mode unbricker for the tilt and if it works out i'll work with him to port it to titan/touch.

gguruusa,
Thanks for helping clarify the dangers i'm trying to convey.

Re: I keep hearing that 3.35 radio is not safe...

Ok, I've tried both Radios twice. 3.37 Dropped a call while sitting still with 2 bars in my house. That has never ever happened. The data connection was also hung this morning. I'm now running 3.35 again. If I have similar problems I think I may put the Stock ROM back.

P.S. If we are running the Titan Radio ROM, why can't we run Titan OS ROM at this point and have GPS with that?