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dew.man 04-03-2008 08:45 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
I was asking why AS would be bad on the battery, but if you want to go there:

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Originally Posted by VW (Post 239196)
I dont think you can say that Excahnge/AS has been more stable, reliable or more powerful than a flexmail/fastmail solution.

Sure I can! With my Exchange server, I have yet to not receive an email nearly simultaneously on my phone as in my pc inbox. With FM, I constantly lost connectivity, and on several occasions, FM completely destroyed my entire inbox/account on the server!

YMMV...


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Originally Posted by VW (Post 239196)
How much is activesync push running ya per month?

Nothing. It's part of Exchange 2k3 SP2 that I'm running on one of my servers.


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Originally Posted by VW (Post 239196)
As far as the power issue, I have rules to sync mail into 7 different folders. My general email and friends folder automaticallly notify me while my possible spam and list emails go into their folders yet don't notify me. The only reason why Exchange push would be better is the abilty to sync calendar and contacts, otherwise flexmail is the best email solution.

My today screen shows how many new messages are waiting. I can safely close all applications with any of the task managers without worrying about my email connection being lost. When I change a contact phone number or create an appointment on my phone, they are reflected on any/every computer that I use. Can FM do any of those?

Oh, and PO has never killed an account deleting years worth of messages!

The one thing that FM does have over PO is it's folder handling.


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Originally Posted by VW (Post 239196)
As far as battery drain, I notice they all drain about the same. Statistically speaking I think imap idle has less overhead ive read, but whether that means better battery life I couldnt tell subjectively

In my experience, FM showed the absolute worst battery drain. Ironically enough, last time I tried FM (about a month or two ago), it ran my battery down about twice as fast as when I had the same three accounts doing scheduled send/receive every 15 minutes!

Once again, YMMV.

ahbrown41 04-03-2008 09:12 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
I have not battery issues with FlexMail at all. I am using FM 4.0 which uses IMAP idle to check email. I get instant notifications when I get email, even before Outlook. It uses very little power because it does not send or receive data unless it needs to. If you are still using POP3 for some reason... you should really consider changing to the MUCH better IMAP protocol.

Of course, you can tell FM to check your email every 15 minutes if that makes you happy and it does support POP3.

I really like the fact that it acts like a real email client. So for instance if I respond to a message the responded to flag is set on the message so in outlook on the desktop I can see I have already responded.

savior02 04-03-2008 09:59 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
<p>i used fm and liked mobipush a lot more unless u have your own server it looks like mobipush is the way to go for now</p>

dew.man 04-03-2008 10:02 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
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Originally Posted by savior02 (Post 239289)
<p>i used fm and liked mobipush a lot more unless u have your own server it looks like mobipush is the way to go for now</p>

Mobipush is very cool.

When it works.

When I tried it a month or two ago, it seems like their servers were up and down every day...

savior02 04-03-2008 10:04 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
i been using it for over a month now and had no server issues at all

dew.man 04-03-2008 10:10 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
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Originally Posted by savior02 (Post 239293)
i been using it for over a month now and had no server issues at all

That's good to hear.

MobiPush is BY FAR the best push solution out there, and they will make a killing when they get the product stable and go commercial...

For those that don't know, you go to their web site, enter your email account info (preferably IMAP as it is server based and keeps changes between client devices), and MobiPush uses AS/Exchange-like technology to push email to your Inbox. The really neat thing, is that I had several different IMAP accounts set up, and I could reply to any of the emails in my Inbox, it would come from the corresponding account.

Now if they only had contacts/calender sync technology...

riironman 04-03-2008 10:26 AM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
does mobipush have the same 30% battery drain as seven? also is it html or just text?

VW 04-03-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dew.man (Post 239212)
I was asking why AS would be bad on the battery, but if you want to go there:



Sure I can! With my Exchange server, I have yet to not receive an email nearly simultaneously on my phone as in my pc inbox. With FM, I constantly lost connectivity, and on several occasions, FM completely destroyed my entire inbox/account on the server!

YMMV...

Nothing. It's part of Exchange 2k3 SP2 that I'm running on one of my servers.

Heh well if you have your own exchange server, I am sure that that AS push would be close to instantaneous. I tried several (3+) of the major commercial Exchange servers and they sucked for speed and were very unreliable. (and very costly)


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Originally Posted by dew.man (Post 239212)

My today screen shows how many new messages are waiting. I can safely close all applications with any of the task managers without worrying about my email connection being lost. When I change a contact phone number or create an appointment on my phone, they are reflected on any/every computer that I use. Can FM do any of those?

Oh, and PO has never killed an account deleting years worth of messages!

Heh my today shows the same with the FM plugin that is available on the beta right now. I do concur that syncing contacts/calendar with multiple devices is the killer reason to use exchange server. In fact if I had my own exchange server, I would definitely be using it instead of imap idle.

As far as PO, no it hasnt killed an account with years worth of messages, but on my 700WX, the database got corrupt somehow, and it decided to send my private emails to my boss because I had sent him an SMS earlier in the day. Hahaha looking back on that that was funny..Locked his phone completely up... I think that was the final straw that led me to look for other solutions.

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Originally Posted by dew.man (Post 239212)
The one thing that FM does have over PO is it's folder handling.

Well like I said earlier, I would forego this convenience if I had a private exchange server

Quote:

Originally Posted by dew.man (Post 239212)
In my experience, FM showed the absolute worst battery drain. Ironically enough, last time I tried FM (about a month or two ago), it ran my battery down about twice as fast as when I had the same three accounts doing scheduled send/receive every 15 minutes!

Once again, YMMV.

Ugg that is not very impressive..well my experience hasnt been that bad. Another good feature that you somewhat touched on (in an opposite way) is that its alot of easier with FM to kill it. This is really handy when you want to get some work done and not be constantly barraged with emails.

Peteman100 04-03-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dew.man (Post 239291)
Mobipush is very cool.

When it works.

When I tried it a month or two ago, it seems like their servers were up and down every day...

I think that was the case about 3 months ago. But as of now, they are completely stable. They have improved a lot.

Peteman100 04-03-2008 07:56 PM

Re: Best push e-mail client for Vogue?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by riironman (Post 239314)
does mobipush have the same 30% battery drain as seven? also is it html or just text?


Mobipush does drain the battery since it uses an activesync connection. Its no worse than the other solutions out there, though. And yes, it has HTML.


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