VOGUE 3.35.04 radio ported from Titan

[vboyz103]

Originally Posted by dharvey4651

I never tried it but I hate seeing so many people ending up with uber-expensive paperweights. Until it is developed fully and working 100% for everyone, it just needed to be removed. Saying "Use at OWN risk" is a great way to remove liability from yourself but not a good way to prevent damage to other's devices.

No hard feelings man. I'm just looking out for everyone's interests here.

Not just me using the "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" phrase buddy, everyone else is using it.

This is a free community and just trying to contribute, and we are all grown adults and we can make our own decision and willing to face consequence of your decision. If you can't do that and messed up your phone and blame it on me. I don't think it's a fair deal. Why? First I already warn them in the first thread, that sometimes you just got to say NO so you won't brick your phone. Second, I told them that use at their own risk so that a big warning already that they should take into account.

Now if everyone who flashed after reading my post, and bricked their phone, it's not my fault to blame. I feel sorry for them that they brick their phone, but like I said you just have to man up and face your own consequence.

When I bricked my phone while back, I never blame the one who posted the ROM, I just blamed myself for my curiosity. When you are in the game of flashing, you know what you are getting into and its potential.

Having said all that, I think everyone here should be able to look out for themselves.

[slypher]

Originally Posted by vboyz103

Not just me using the "USE AT YOUR OWN RISK" phrase buddy, everyone else is using it.

This is a free community and just trying to contribute, and we are all grown adults and we can make our own decision and willing to face consequence of your decision. If you can't do that and messed up your phone and blame it on me. I don't think it's a fair deal. Why? First I already warn them in the first thread, that sometimes you just got to say NO so you won't brick your phone. Second, I told them that use at their own risk so that a big warning already that they should take into account.

Now if everyone who flashed after reading my post, and bricked their phone, it's not my fault to blame. I feel sorry for them that they brick their phone, but like I said you just have to man up and face your own consequence.

When I bricked my phone while back, I never blame the one who posted the ROM, I just blamed myself for my curiosity. When you are in the game of flashing, you know what you are getting into and its potential.

Having said all that, I think everyone here should be able to look out for themselves.

Amen!!

We all know the dangers of flashing anything...there is always the possibility of bricking your phone. Thank goodness for insurance

-s

[willysp]

Originally Posted by vboyz103

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Having said all that, I think everyone here should be able to look out for themselves.

In an idealistic sense, yes - people "should be able". But, when you look at the number of low post-count noobs, that's NOT a realistic assumption. There are people who see a post here and assume that there is a reasonably strong chance that what they see will work.

For those of us who are more experienced and literate, a radio from another phone, which offers NO benefit, while presenting SIGNIFICANT risk screams "Don't even download, much less flash!". I, for one, was not for one nano-second even the least bit tempted to try it.

But others didn't really understand the risk.

IMHO, your post should have been prefaced with huge, bold, flashing, red letters to discourage noobs who were tempted to try it.

[DHarvey]

Originally Posted by willysp

In an idealistic sense, yes - people "should be able". But, when you look at the number of low post-count noobs, that's NOT a realistic assumption. There are people who see a post here and assume that there is a reasonably strong chance that what they see will work.

For those of us who are more experienced and literate, a radio from another phone, which offers NO benefit, while presenting SIGNIFICANT risk screams "Don't even download, much less flash!". I, for one, was not for one nano-second even the least bit tempted to try it.

But others didn't really understand the risk.

IMHO, your post should have been prefaced with huge, bold, flashing, red letters to discourage noobs who were tempted to try it.

[vboyz103]

Originally Posted by willysp

In an idealistic sense, yes - people "should be able". But, when you look at the number of low post-count noobs, that's NOT a realistic assumption. There are people who see a post here and assume that there is a reasonably strong chance that what they see will work.

For those of us who are more experienced and literate, a radio from another phone, which offers NO benefit, while presenting SIGNIFICANT risk screams "Don't even download, much less flash!". I, for one, was not for one nano-second even the least bit tempted to try it.

But others didn't really understand the risk.

IMHO, your post should have been prefaced with huge, bold, flashing, red letters to discourage noobs who were tempted to try it.

The point here is that not about the warning, it's about how some users are doing the blame game on me. To me I think some are blaming me for posting this and they bricked their phone. I think it's not fair to blame anybody on here because as I stated in earlier replies, this is a free community and you should know what you are up to regardless you are noob or not noob. We are all smart individuals IMHO!!

[willysp]

Unfortunately, not everybody here is "smart" (i.e. experienced)!

However, I will generally agree that anyone who comes to forums like this one is taking a risk; and it's their responsibilty. But, not everyone understands the inherent risks.

[DHarvey]

Originally Posted by vboyz103

The point here is that not about the warning, it's about how some users are doing the blame game on me. To me I think some are blaming me for posting this and they bricked their phone. I think it's not fair to blame anybody on here because as I stated in earlier replies, this is a free community and you should know what you are up to regardless you are noob or not noob. We are all smart individuals IMHO!!

I agree with you 100%. I personally did not try this, nor am I naieve enough to attempt something like this as I DO have experience and know what is safe and what isn't.

I am not blaming you for posting this radio for others to try nor am I saying that it is ok for others to do so. What I am saying is that it is foolish to think that everyone(expecially noobies) can and does understand the inherant risk when you do something like this.

No hard feelings, Dan.

[dan-htc-touch]

how do parts of roms decide where they will sit in memory? is it possible that due to the memory size difference between the titan and vogue that their different parts reside at different memory adresses, and when flashed to different device overwrite other parts??? example, say titan radio resides a little lower in memory, could it be overwriting part of the bootloader and therefore bricking the device???

The reason I ask, is because I would not have though flashing anything but a bootloader could brick a device, guess I will have to be a little more carefull with my thinking.

I guess the short question would be, what desides where the rom gets written, the rom itself, or the bootloader that is loading it?