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Old 01-18-2008, 01:02 AM
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Okay we all really need to buckle down and start complaining

Its time that we all make calls to our respective carriers and complain about the lack of proper D3DM drivers on our devices.

All devices based on the MSM7500 and MSM7200 chipsets have a built-in AMD Imageon interface for 3D graphical performance, yet HTC hasn't released a single device with working drivers for this interface.

My 6700 processes video better than my Touch OR my Mogul for christ's sake! The reason for this is because both the Touch and the Mogul have no link to their internal hardware acceleration.

Check this out: http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/p...-303_Ligon.pdf

Check out the graphics core MSM lineup - the MSM7500 (our devices), the MSM7200 (GSM devices like the Tilt/TyTN II), and the MSM7600 (haven't seen a device with this one yet) ALL have Imageon 3D AND 2D acceleration built into them! Why don't we have drivers for it!?

Since Sprint decided not to pay HTC to support our devices for us, we have no recourse other than to bitch to them - the more of us that do it, the wider of a problem it becomes for them, and they may just fix it!

I've accepted the lag as just a limitation of the new chipset -- until I found out today that these devices have an Imageon interface with no drivers!

There is no excuse now. This needs to be fixed!

Also of note, on that PDF there's a mention of the MSM7850 - this chipset has graphical capabilities that SURPASS the Sony PSP - and is due out this year! But once again, if we keep accepting that this is the performance we're stuck with, we probably won't get drivers for that one either.

Think about it this way... right now, our CPUs are doing all of the gruntwork to produce what we see on the screen - anyone remember the days of software-accelerated graphics on the PC? Its not just 3D that's affected, EVERYTHING is!
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:24 AM
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Does that mean we would be able to benefit more from Direct Draw than Raw Frambuffer if they do release drivers?
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:25 AM
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Yes!

The Imageon chip does both 2D and 3D acceleration. We're running off of the stock Windows Mobile GDI!
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:35 AM
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is there a web address/web form for sprint where we can submit this complaint ? link ? thank you
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:43 AM
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My Touch is more powerful than the Nintendo DS? LOL thats hella funny.
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:48 AM
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agentmikeyd, I would log in to your Sprint account online and try to find a link - I can't log in to mine right now, they're converting my account to Ensemble (FINALLY).

And pg2k3 - the Touch is more powerful than the DS in every way, processor speed right down to graphics - we just don't have the drivers for the graphics part.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:20 AM
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http://htcclassaction.org/ And all of it supporters seem to be already making progress.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:27 AM
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Yeah but that's primarily for the GSM side... we have to badger Sprint because HTC can argue that they don't have to provide the driver because they don't give the support for the Touch, Sprint does.
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This rules... someone sweet just write the drivers, come on you guys do crazier crap!!! I know you have no sdk's or any sorta base to work from but its cool... just do it!!!
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:11 AM
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hmmm i wonder how hard it would be to replace the screen with a higher resolution LCD? perhaps an 800x480 screen? hehe...

oh and did you guys read the comparisons between the hardware and software rendering? the hardware rendering used less power!

WE NEED THESE DRIVERS!!

EVERYONE... BOMBARD SPRINT, NOW!

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