Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21040

[dishe]

Originally Posted by drellisdee

No do not change the sys everything 20931 and up has IE6. The toggle is here in the registry

If you would like to switch back to IE5 (and lose flash) change HKLM/Security/Internet Explorer MSHTML from "1" to "0". Reverse to change it back.

Nice find! Still doesn't negate the fact that removing the browsingie folder will work as well. I've been doing this since 931, and it has become standard-issue advice on the #ppckitchen IRC channel.

Wonderful to know that I could have the option to turn it off/on with a registry edit, though!

Originally Posted by calisoldier83

so 21028 FTW?

I played with some of these new bases, and my personal opinion is that 21028 was the most stable option... however I have to argue about its speed.
It may be something I did to it, but I'm finding it not quite as snappy as other rom bases that I've used, such as 21014 (and I'm testing with the same apps cooked in both times).

I may go back to 21014, my only problem with that one is that it got strange if I ever let the battery die (would run very slowly until hard reset). Once again, may have been something I did to it- if I could fix that problem, I'd say 21014 FTW.

Originally Posted by computerjunkie

The biggest problem i'm having with your releases (love them btw, so thank you!) is the scrolling on some apps. Over all, the scrolling is AMAZING butt..

open up an email and try to scroll without using the scrollbar (with touch)...nothing happens...can this be fixed?

This is true of ALL bases that use Microsoft's built-in kinetic scrolling method (20931 and onward). Basically, you're not using touchflo anymore, its built into the OS- while it works better than HTC's kinetic touchflo finger motions, it doesn't work in some screens, such as the old IE or inside a message.
You can install or cook in HTC's Touchflo, but I personally prefer the control that the older FtouchFlo gives the user.

[spetrillo]

Originally Posted by dishe

Nice find! Still doesn't negate the fact that removing the browsingie folder will work as well. I've been doing this since 931, and it has become standard-issue advice on the #ppckitchen IRC channel.

Wonderful to know that I could have the option to turn it off/on with a registry edit, though!




I played with some of these new bases, and my personal opinion is that 21028 was the most stable option... however I have to argue about its speed.
It may be something I did to it, but I'm finding it not quite as snappy as other rom bases that I've used, such as 21014 (and I'm testing with the same apps cooked in both times).

I may go back to 21014, my only problem with that one is that it got strange if I ever let the battery die (would run very slowly until hard reset). Once again, may have been something I did to it- if I could fix that problem, I'd say 21014 FTW.




This is true of ALL bases that use Microsoft's built-in kinetic scrolling method (20931 and onward). Basically, you're not using touchflo anymore, its built into the OS- while it works better than HTC's kinetic touchflo finger motions, it doesn't work in some screens, such as the old IE or inside a message.
You can install or cook in HTC's Touchflo, but I personally prefer the control that the older FtouchFlo gives the user.

I have been noticing the same thing, and so the question is can I shutoff the MS scrolling if I cook in Touchflo? Second who knows what is the current rev of HTC's Touchflo and where can I obtain it? I am using the PPCKITCHEN.

Steve

[calisoldier83]

so touchflo isn't needed anymore with new bases? I've been cooking it for awhile now.

[spetrillo]

Originally Posted by calisoldier83

so touchflo isn't needed anymore with new bases? I've been cooking it for awhile now.

Sounds like this the case if you want to use the MS method. I have not had good luck with this, thus why I want to find out if we can disable the MS method and then cook Touchflo back in. I found Touchflo much more responsive and predictable.

Steve

[ehol7]

firmware was 20931, found 21028-faster and more pleasant to work!
update wm6.5?

[dishe]

Originally Posted by spetrillo

Sounds like this the case if you want to use the MS method. I have not had good luck with this, thus why I want to find out if we can disable the MS method and then cook Touchflo back in. I found Touchflo much more responsive and predictable.

Steve

You don't need to "disable" the MS method. It only kicks in when TouchFlo or whatever else could be installed on top doesn't do anything (like pressing for a moment and then slowly scrolling. TouchFlo wouldn't respond to that, but MS' will).

In my opinion, MS's is MUCH more predictable than HTC's. In fact, I really REALLY dislike HTC's TouchFlo, since its definition of kinetic scrolling is "scroll all the way to the bottom on the slightest finger flick". If you try to stop it mid-scroll, you accidentally select something. MS' doesn't do that.

[computerjunkie]

Originally Posted by dishe

You don't need to "disable" the MS method. It only kicks in when TouchFlo or whatever else could be installed on top doesn't do anything (like pressing for a moment and then slowly scrolling. TouchFlo wouldn't respond to that, but MS' will).

In my opinion, MS's is MUCH more predictable than HTC's. In fact, I really REALLY dislike HTC's TouchFlo, since its definition of kinetic scrolling is "scroll all the way to the bottom on the slightest finger flick". If you try to stop it mid-scroll, you accidentally select something. MS' doesn't do that.

I too like the MS scrolling but how were you guys able to get emails and other apps to scroll with it? MS scrolling (for me) works in list boxes but other apps it doesnt scroll.

[Getitnowmarketing]

Originally Posted by computerjunkie

I too like the MS scrolling but how were you guys able to get emails and other apps to scroll with it? MS scrolling (for me) works in list boxes but other apps it doesnt scroll.

Touchflo and MS scrolling can be used together with exceptions .exe in touchflo 3 registry but cant at the moment remember the exact key as I'm posting on my mobile.

This is a repost from xda with some debugging keys involving gestures present in the 20954 build. Test at your own risk as they may be no longer valid for other builds.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch]
"Disabled"=dword:0 ; 0 for disabled, allows multi-select, 1 for enabled, doesn't work so hot with multi-select
"ScrollFriction" ; unknown default value or units
"ScrollInterval" ; unknown default value or units
"Multiplier" ; unknown default value or units
"Length" ; unknown default value or units
"Multiplier" ; unknown default value or units
"Tolerance" ; unknown default value or units
"Timeout" ; unknown default value or units

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\TouchFilter]
"FastestTapTime" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in ms
"MaxTapSpan" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in pixels
"MaxTouchFilterDelay" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in ms

[brol1k]

hey guys thanks for these files,i am however getting a warning about this is not a sanctioned rom from ppckitchen. Is there something wrong I am doing? I put all files where they have to go, maybe its tf3d2?

[Xanius]

Originally Posted by brol1k

hey guys thanks for these files,i am however getting a warning about this is not a sanctioned rom from ppckitchen. Is there something wrong I am doing? I put all files where they have to go, maybe its tf3d2?

It's saying it's not a sanctioned rom because it's not released by the guys that make the kitchen. It was ported by someone else and they want to make sure you know that it's not their work so people don't ask them for help.