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Getitnowmarketing

03-11-2009 12:19 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ali3nfr3ak (Post 764416)

i also cannot get 21032 to boot it hangs at htc 2nd splash screen
i found this in the log file, i assume this means its getting injected

Making ROM
ImgfsToNb 2.1 RC2
Initializing
Injecting XIP (Vogue_21032.bin).
Using default pagepool settings

compare your selections.txt with mine as this one is working for me.

ali3nfr3ak

03-11-2009 12:53 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

ok here is my selection text the start of the file is exactly the same as yours,
oh and i am flashing via sdcard , that wouldnt make a difference would it?

WM6.1_96DPI_QVGA_Drellisdee_21032_0409.txt

GroupConfigVersion=.90.01
BuildID=Drellisdee_21032
CheckForFeature=QVGA
ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]SYS_21032_Common[Archive]
ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]SYS_21028_96DPI_0409[Archive]

Vogue_WM6.1_Drellisdee.txt
GroupConfigVersion=.90.01
[Screen]=
[DPI]=96DPI
[StockBuild]=19208
KitchenDir=[KitchenPath]Vogue_Core_Drellisdee[Archive]
[BaseGroup]
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_20954,Vogue_20954.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21014,Vogue_21014.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21015,Vogue_21015.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21018,Vogue_21018.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21027,Vogue_21027.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21028,Vogue_21028.bin
XipFilename=Vogue,Drellisdee_21032,Vogue_21032.bin
ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]Generic_OEM[Archive]
ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]Drivers_Vogue[Archive]
ModuleDir=[KitchenPath]Carriers_Vogue[Archive]
ROMDeviceType=Vogue
ROMOSType=WM6.1
ROMRevType=GPS
PagePoolSize=4
SelectedBootSplashImage=240x320,PPCkitchen2.png
SelectedSubSplashImage=240x320,PPCkitchen2.png
SelectedMainSplashImage=240x320,welcomehead1.png

1loudsvt

03-11-2009 02:13 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

ok 21027 and 21028 flash fine but i am unable to have any service with them and many links are dead. 21032 freezes at splash

vin255764

03-11-2009 03:18 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

any news how to remove taskmanager shortcuts from programms and system menu?I like 21028 .compare to 21018 cpu 3-5% higher(for me its 35-38%) and works faster .Thats just what I wanted!
Thank you.

taxist

03-11-2009 03:52 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

"SYS 21032 v1 now fixed for g'reloc 3/10/09" - g'reloc and wmreloc not working...

SYS 21028 - no problem.

ali3nfr3ak

03-11-2009 04:42 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

try this goto SYS_21018_Common/shell delete taskmgr.lnk

then open 1f1aca24-d942-464a-9281-10567741499c.rgu in the same location
and find

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TaskMgr]
"Redirect"=":MSTASKMGR"

and change to

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TaskMgr]
"Redirect"=":MSTASKMGR"
"Hide"=dword:00000001

i have not tried it so cannot garuntee that it will work

CRACING

03-11-2009 01:32 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by vin255764 (Post 764698)

any news how to remove taskmanager shortcuts from programms and system menu?I like 21028 .compare to 21018 cpu 3-5% higher(for me its 35-38%) and works faster .Thats just what I wanted!
Thank you.

Hello,

Remove these reg keys from sys/sell rgu :

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TaskMgr]
"Redirect"=":MSTASKMGR"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\TaskMgr]
"Group"=dword:1

Remove taskmgr.exe and taskmgr.lnk from sys/shell.

Thats all.
Thanks and Regards

1loudsvt

03-11-2009 02:48 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

anyone know where the selections.txt are in windows 7? I would like to post them and figure out why i can not get any three of these to work.

ali3nfr3ak

03-11-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1loudsvt (Post 765571)

anyone know where the selections.txt are in windows 7? I would like to post them and figure out why i can not get any three of these to work.

C:\Program Files\PPCkitchen.org\BuildOS\Projects

Whosdaman

03-11-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Dre...I'm trying to help you dude, the 21032 is screwed up for some reason...

Everyone is having the same problem, 028 and 027 work perfect, but 032 is getting stuck

I love your work dude, and I'm trying to help ya out here

Xanius

03-11-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

I couldn't get any of these to boot on my vogue. Followed directions exactly and it was a no go, always got stuck on second splash screen.

However, doign the same thing with 21018 worked just fine, so I'm happy.

Whosdaman

03-11-2009 04:22 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whosdaman (Post 765729)

Just incase you miss it ^^^

Getitnowmarketing

03-11-2009 05:51 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whosdaman (Post 765729)

Thanks 21032 removed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xanius (Post 765730)

Did you use the new vogue core from the 1st post? Sorry if you have done this already. Place the NEW vogue_core_drellisdee in /kitchens and the new vogue_wm6.1_drellisdee into projects/groups/devicebases overwriting the old ones? Known bad oems are anything flash related or user added .net 2.0 or 3.5 as its included in the sys. Also the ppck oem of remote desktop (cab is fine) has been known to cause no data issues. Also on herman/victor (possibily vogue) the BT oems have been known to cause a hang at splash. Possibily other oems could cause a hang on boot also as there is no guarantee that one that used to work on an older sys will work with newer ones.

If that fails check your selections.txt (the name of your project you saved in the /projects folder) the top lines should read:
SelectionsVersion=.90.04
[BaseGroup]=GroupFile=Groups\BuildBases\WM6.1_96DPI_QVGA_Drel lisdee_21028_0409.txt
[DeviceGroup]=GroupFile=Groups\DeviceBases\Vogue_WM6.1_Drellisd ee.txt
GroupFile=[UserSetup]
ROMDeviceType=Vogue
ROMRevType=GPS
ROMOSType=WM6.1
DeviceRUUType=Standard
DeviceCarrierType=Verizon
PagePoolSize=4
PagePoolType=<Default>

Then try to extract the vogue_core_drellisdee (not in kitchen directory) to see if its corrupted and make sure vogue_21027.bin & vogue_21028.bin are inside it.

Whosdaman

03-11-2009 06:00 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Alright dude....your welcome

NFSFAN look at it as well and said the XIP is causing the problems, or it could be the dsm's
He has a working SYS from the official shipped rom, but won't realease it :'(

deegimus

03-11-2009 06:55 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Adding my two cents...

First, thanks for your hard work.

I cook a fairly clean ROM.

21018 works great and is mostly without any noticeable hiccups.
21028 appeared to work, but then wouldn't display any M2D page but the home page. Weird.
21032 hung on 2nd boot screen.

Had to get into the bootloader manually and then go back to 21018.

I'd like to try and get 21028 working.
What, specifically, is the difference between 21028 and 21018?

Thanks,
dj

Xanius

03-11-2009 09:09 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 765911)

Thanks 21032 removed.

Did you use the new vogue core from the 1st post? Sorry if you have done this already. Place the NEW vogue_core_drellisdee in /kitchens and the new vogue_wm6.1_drellisdee into projects/groups/devicebases overwriting the old ones? Known bad oems are anything flash related or user added .net 2.0 or 3.5 as its included in the sys. Also the ppck oem of remote desktop (cab is fine) has been known to cause no data issues. Also on herman/victor (possibily vogue) the BT oems have been known to cause a hang at splash. Possibily other oems could cause a hang on boot also as there is no guarantee that one that used to work on an older sys will work with newer ones.

If that fails check your selections.txt (the name of your project you saved in the /projects folder) the top lines should read:
SelectionsVersion=.90.04
[BaseGroup]=GroupFile=Groups\BuildBases\WM6.1_96DPI_QVGA_Drel lisdee_21028_0409.txt
[DeviceGroup]=GroupFile=Groups\DeviceBases\Vogue_WM6.1_Drellisd ee.txt
GroupFile=[UserSetup]
ROMDeviceType=Vogue
ROMRevType=GPS
ROMOSType=WM6.1
DeviceRUUType=Standard
DeviceCarrierType=Verizon
PagePoolSize=4
PagePoolType=<Default>

Then try to extract the vogue_core_drellisdee (not in kitchen directory) to see if its corrupted and make sure vogue_21027.bin & vogue_21028.bin are inside it.

Yeah I had tried with the stuff from this thread before I tried the older sys files.
If the .net stuff being added is causing problems and BT might, then it was one of those. Didn't know it was included in the file so I tried adding it on separately.
I may try again with 21028 but unless there's a huge difference between it and 21018 then I don't see a reason.

CRACING

03-11-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by deegimus (Post 766017)

What, specifically, is the difference between 21028 and 21018?
dj

Hello,

Normally I will be using blackstone official 20764 build inwhich it given faster performance for my htc wizard. Few days back I ported 21018 build xip/sys build but I feat slower. Day before yesterday I ported 21028 build xip/sys and its unbelievable fast so 21028 is not the 21018.

21018 is also not a fake build.................... :D

Thanks and regards

1loudsvt

03-12-2009 12:15 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

using these with no selections made so a perfectly clean rom on my vogue...

21032 would freeze...known issue

21028 booted fine, could not install cabs, could not make or receive calls but text messages worked fine???? links to dialer and com manager would not work

21027 com manger does not work, may be a tad slower than 21018 but kinda hard to tell at this point.

darkomega69

03-12-2009 03:03 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quick question guys, 21028 has IE6 in it correct? I've noticed that even on mobile view, browsing wap sites, the text are no longer wrapped like the older IE. I believe the old IE had even choices, page width, one column, desktop. Is there a way to fix this?

dishe

03-13-2009 01:31 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkomega69 (Post 766959)

remove the entire browsingie folder in the kitchen base you are using, and it will automatically revert to the old IE. I do this for compatibility with LogMeIn.

Getitnowmarketing

03-13-2009 01:48 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkomega69 (Post 766959)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dishe (Post 770077)

remove the entire browsingie folder in the kitchen base you are using, and it will automatically revert to the old IE. I do this for compatibility with LogMeIn.

No do not change the sys everything 20931 and up has IE6. The toggle is here in the registry

If you would like to switch back to IE5 (and lose flash) change HKLM/Security/Internet Explorer MSHTML from "1" to "0". Reverse to change it back.

calisoldier83

03-13-2009 11:16 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

so 21028 FTW?

1loudsvt

03-14-2009 12:06 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

could not get it to work on my xv6900 :-(

Xanius

03-14-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Got 21028 to boot but no service and no m2d pages load.

Slwitek

03-14-2009 10:15 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Ok, so I flashed 21028 to my Apache and here's what I found...

HTC Home does not show up (Dont even think about manilla2d, wont fit)
In IE, the search icon takes you to file explorer
HTC Album wont open (Jade?)
Camera button doesnt work.

I do have service, but looks like i will have to try something else...

mr4r4n

03-15-2009 12:24 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

weird be because i have htc home working, i almost never could get m2d to fit for me anyway (on BL 2.05) the search thing is true, but the htc album from the kitchen doesnt work for some reason, what i found to work for it which might do it for your htc home is the non htc device patch for m2d thats on the m2d page it makes all "non loading htc apps work" i ended up finding that out by accident but it works well and the camera button (button 3) just has to be set in the buttons tab in settings
hope that helps

darkomega69

03-15-2009 01:08 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 770124)

I don't mind the flash, but is there a way to adjust the word wrap?

Getitnowmarketing

03-15-2009 03:25 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkomega69 (Post 773506)

I don't mind the flash, but is there a way to adjust the word wrap?

No its its IE6 like it is or use the reg to default to IE5

Whosdaman

03-15-2009 11:59 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Dre, whens the estimated date of the next SYS you put out? Particularly 21174 or higher (6.5)

computerjunkie

03-16-2009 12:48 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

The biggest problem i'm having with your releases (love them btw, so thank you!) is the scrolling on some apps. Over all, the scrolling is AMAZING butt..

open up an email and try to scroll without using the scrollbar (with touch)...nothing happens...can this be fixed?

dishe

03-16-2009 06:16 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by drellisdee (Post 770124)

Quote:

Originally Posted by calisoldier83 (Post 771276)

so 21028 FTW?

I played with some of these new bases, and my personal opinion is that 21028 was the most stable option... however I have to argue about its speed.
It may be something I did to it, but I'm finding it not quite as snappy as other rom bases that I've used, such as 21014 (and I'm testing with the same apps cooked in both times).

I may go back to 21014, my only problem with that one is that it got strange if I ever let the battery die (would run very slowly until hard reset). Once again, may have been something I did to it- if I could fix that problem, I'd say 21014 FTW.

Quote:

Originally Posted by computerjunkie (Post 774659)

This is true of ALL bases that use Microsoft's built-in kinetic scrolling method (20931 and onward). Basically, you're not using touchflo anymore, its built into the OS- while it works better than HTC's kinetic touchflo finger motions, it doesn't work in some screens, such as the old IE or inside a message.
You can install or cook in HTC's Touchflo, but I personally prefer the control that the older FtouchFlo gives the user.

spetrillo

03-17-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by dishe (Post 776106)

Nice find! Still doesn't negate the fact that removing the browsingie folder will work as well. I've been doing this since 931, and it has become standard-issue advice on the #ppckitchen IRC channel.

Wonderful to know that I could have the option to turn it off/on with a registry edit, though!

I played with some of these new bases, and my personal opinion is that 21028 was the most stable option... however I have to argue about its speed.
It may be something I did to it, but I'm finding it not quite as snappy as other rom bases that I've used, such as 21014 (and I'm testing with the same apps cooked in both times).

I may go back to 21014, my only problem with that one is that it got strange if I ever let the battery die (would run very slowly until hard reset). Once again, may have been something I did to it- if I could fix that problem, I'd say 21014 FTW.

This is true of ALL bases that use Microsoft's built-in kinetic scrolling method (20931 and onward). Basically, you're not using touchflo anymore, its built into the OS- while it works better than HTC's kinetic touchflo finger motions, it doesn't work in some screens, such as the old IE or inside a message.
You can install or cook in HTC's Touchflo, but I personally prefer the control that the older FtouchFlo gives the user.

I have been noticing the same thing, and so the question is can I shutoff the MS scrolling if I cook in Touchflo? Second who knows what is the current rev of HTC's Touchflo and where can I obtain it? I am using the PPCKITCHEN.

Steve

calisoldier83

03-20-2009 04:49 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

so touchflo isn't needed anymore with new bases? I've been cooking it for awhile now.

spetrillo

03-20-2009 08:13 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by calisoldier83 (Post 784893)

so touchflo isn't needed anymore with new bases? I've been cooking it for awhile now.

Sounds like this the case if you want to use the MS method. I have not had good luck with this, thus why I want to find out if we can disable the MS method and then cook Touchflo back in. I found Touchflo much more responsive and predictable.

Steve

ehol7

03-20-2009 10:18 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

firmware was 20931, found 21028-faster and more pleasant to work!
update wm6.5?

dishe

03-23-2009 01:17 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by spetrillo (Post 784979)

You don't need to "disable" the MS method. It only kicks in when TouchFlo or whatever else could be installed on top doesn't do anything (like pressing for a moment and then slowly scrolling. TouchFlo wouldn't respond to that, but MS' will).

In my opinion, MS's is MUCH more predictable than HTC's. In fact, I really REALLY dislike HTC's TouchFlo, since its definition of kinetic scrolling is "scroll all the way to the bottom on the slightest finger flick". If you try to stop it mid-scroll, you accidentally select something. MS' doesn't do that.

computerjunkie

03-23-2009 03:36 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by dishe (Post 792357)

I too like the MS scrolling but how were you guys able to get emails and other apps to scroll with it? MS scrolling (for me) works in list boxes but other apps it doesnt scroll.

Getitnowmarketing

03-24-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by computerjunkie (Post 792708)

I too like the MS scrolling but how were you guys able to get emails and other apps to scroll with it? MS scrolling (for me) works in list boxes but other apps it doesnt scroll.

Touchflo and MS scrolling can be used together with exceptions .exe in touchflo 3 registry but cant at the moment remember the exact key as I'm posting on my mobile.

This is a repost from xda with some debugging keys involving gestures present in the 20954 build. Test at your own risk as they may be no longer valid for other builds.

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch]
"Disabled"=dword:0 ; 0 for disabled, allows multi-select, 1 for enabled, doesn't work so hot with multi-select
"ScrollFriction" ; unknown default value or units
"ScrollInterval" ; unknown default value or units
"Multiplier" ; unknown default value or units
"Length" ; unknown default value or units
"Multiplier" ; unknown default value or units
"Tolerance" ; unknown default value or units
"Timeout" ; unknown default value or units

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\TouchFilter]
"FastestTapTime" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in ms
"MaxTapSpan" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in pixels
"MaxTouchFilterDelay" ; unknown default value or unit of measure, guess=units in ms

brol1k

03-25-2009 12:02 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

hey guys thanks for these files,i am however getting a warning about this is not a sanctioned rom from ppckitchen. Is there something wrong I am doing? I put all files where they have to go, maybe its tf3d2?

Xanius

03-25-2009 01:16 AM

Re: Round 2 Unofficial PPCK Build Updates 21027, 21028, 21032

Quote:

Originally Posted by brol1k (Post 797048)

It's saying it's not a sanctioned rom because it's not released by the guys that make the kitchen. It was ported by someone else and they want to make sure you know that it's not their work so people don't ask them for help.

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