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WAH 07-17-2009 05:53 PM

Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
all i wanna do is have my phone work for a little bit.
i flashed the mighty,which worked the best,and THIS PHONE SUCKS BALLS.
had to jump out of the truck,on the highway,just so id be able to make an important phonecall.my backup battery was in my bag in the side of the truck.
well,i put the other battery in,which was fully charged,and after about 30 minutes,there was one life bar left.
W
T
F?

Darkjedi 07-17-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Tell me about it, if I don't leave my phone on the charger at work, it will die by the time I get home.

WAH 07-17-2009 06:00 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
theres gotta be a way to fix this problem or im gonna call someone and get something bad done to htc...

Darkjedi 07-17-2009 06:11 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Unfortunately this has been the way things are for the TP. Many of us have accepted it and have multiple batteries to get us through the day :(

Block 07-17-2009 06:17 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
turn off gps, wifi, bluetooth if ur not using it...also dont leave palringo or any aim program open

bigirb2002 07-17-2009 06:19 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
i had the same issue i flash all radios and found one that gave me the battery life it needed. im on the us cellular radio. im located in virginia. the radio is the big culprit. disable your radio one day and look how long it last. so find a good radio

Darkjedi 07-17-2009 06:25 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
The radio on the TP is a doozy. I have a feeling HTC somehow borked the design of the antennae/radio chip so that it's way less efficient than what it should be. The mogul never had a battery problem this bad, even though it did have a slight better battery. It also doesn't overheat like the TP does unless wmwifirouter is running.

HBOOT 07-17-2009 06:27 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
10 4 on that man, mogul wasnt as bad eventhough batty was weak, hopefully a friggin update is coming, btw way when are u coming to vip dude?lol we are waiting:mrgreen:

Darkjedi 07-17-2009 06:29 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
hahah thanks man, maybe by next week! then I can join the super exclusive VIP club! :D

HBOOT 07-17-2009 06:35 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Dude, u can make it happen by teh end of da night unless you have a batty like TP...LOL, looking forward to having u there. I ll make sure we throw u a party when u get there and give out batties:mrgreen:

Darkjedi 07-17-2009 06:41 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HB (Post 1042715)
Dude, u can make it happen by teh end of da night unless you have a batty like TP...LOL, looking forward to having u there. I ll make sure we throw u a party when u get there and give out batties:mrgreen:

hahahah, battery party favors for everyone! battery hats, battery balloons and even battery cake!! yum

And on that note of giving out batteries, the OP can go to some Sprint stores and ask for spare batteries. That's how I got my 2 spares, the first one was really messed up and looked in rough shape so I stopped by another store near work and asked for one there as well. They are usually pretty nice about it, but try looking in the corporate service and repair centers. Those are the most likely to have them.

HBOOT 07-17-2009 06:45 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
you know your way aroung dog, i can tell. Still it is a bisht to have to carry an extra one all the time. TP will be perfect with a 14 hours battery...

TheRealHotshot 07-17-2009 06:45 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
No body throwed me a party when I became a VIP :( just kidding :mrgreen: but seriously turning off my bluetooth when I'm not using it not only saved me 2x the batt but also made sure no one is trying to bluejack me :-| and I have my twitter app set to 30mins or unless I'm super out than 1hr

syanni85 07-17-2009 06:46 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
mugen powered extended batteries are AMAZING investments, but the problem with the TP is that its a lil bulky to begin with, so an ext batt would make it GIGANTIC

I have an omnia with an extended and i'm on day 3 of heavy use, got like 10-15% left now. Its the size of a TP now...

if the bulk is worth it, spend the money on a mugen powered battery. It'll be a lil more help than having 2 batteries IMO

HBOOT 07-17-2009 06:47 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
aint nobody gooan bluejack you if you set it to ask for passy, nomsayin:mrgreen: can t be holding that big TP to my ear man plus the friggin sound quality is phuked. J2 do the job and it is on all the time...make sure you dont miss the batty patty

HBOOT 07-17-2009 06:49 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
But i want Amanda with phones phones phone no battie battie batties, that isht always crack me up...:mrgreen:

TheRealHotshot 07-17-2009 08:08 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HB (Post 1042740)
aint nobody gooan bluejack you if you set it to ask for passy, nomsayin:mrgreen: can t be holding that big TP to my ear man plus the friggin sound quality is phuked. J2 do the job and it is on all the time...make sure you dont miss the batty patty

i mean i keep it on at home or while driving or if im out on the phone already other than that i keep it off bro might as well ya's feel me's :mrgreen:

HBOOT 07-17-2009 08:19 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
I got ya dawg, good move. Sometimes I check my ear b4 going in the shower just in case, nomsayin:mrgreen: tells u dat ihst stays there all da time man....:mrgreen:

TheRealHotshot 07-17-2009 08:32 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HB (Post 1042894)
I got ya dawg, good move. Sometimes I check my ear b4 going in the shower just in case, nomsayin:mrgreen: tells u dat ihst stays there all da time man....:mrgreen:

yea i feel ya bro i washed my blueant V1 once before lol!!

HBOOT 07-17-2009 09:02 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
That is so phuking crazy man:mrgreen:

kabuk1 07-17-2009 09:16 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
I used to get terrible battery life, and I fixed it. I easily go all day on a single charge now. Check out the link in my sig.

Tilde88 07-17-2009 09:31 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
People having battery problems EVEN after trying different radios... This one's for you... Try this and let me know if you see any difference. Note for this study since the terms are just battery use and not cellular strength, I recommend everyone flashes to Telus 1.04.05V Radio, and simply avoid roaming. I don't know which is the most [battery] stable Radio for GSM.
#1. You need your SPC. BAFMSL is the quickest way.
Link: http://code.baf.cc/mslgrab/BAFMSL.cab
#2. After getting your SPC, click (from within the program) on EPST. and click 'Edit'
#3. Click 'View Info' then 'NAM Settings'.
#4. Go down to ACCOLC in this windows and edit it to be 7 or 8.
#5. Click 'View Info' again, then 'Modem Settings'
#6. Edit your Slot Cycle Index (SCI) to 1. You're Preferred Service System should be [Carrier Name] Only. I.E., I use Sprint, so mine says 'Sprint Only'. Finally make sure that 'HDR Hybrid Preferred' is enabled.
#6.b While you are already here, click 'View Info', then 'Data Parameters', and make sure that your Rev.A is ENABLED!!!
#7. Click OK at the top right corner and click OK again. You MUST let it Soft Reset... Or else!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted: :-p

I am almost certain this will help you guys out... Just lemme know if you feel it is any better over a while. Be sure to charge your battery all the way before testing.
OH!... Gotta add another quick step before posting... ... ... ... K!

bullet2300 07-17-2009 09:34 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
I feel terrible for you guys... I wake up at 7:30 and start using my phone through the entire day fairly regularly for e-mail, streaming radio, etc. and by the time I get home and charge it again at 10:30 I usually have about 40% battery life left... This is my 2nd TP, but my first was just as good.

kabuk1 07-17-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 1043013)
People having battery problems EVEN after trying different radios... This one's for you... Try this and let me know if you see any difference. Note for this study since the terms are just battery use and not cellular strength, I recommend everyone flashes to Telus 1.04.05V Radio, and simply avoid roaming. I don't know which is the most [battery] stable Radio for GSM.
#1. You need your SPC. BAFMSL is the quickest way.
Link: http://code.baf.cc/mslgrab/BAFMSL.cab
#2. After getting your SPC, click (from within the program) on EPST. and click 'Edit'
#3. Click 'View Info' then 'NAM Settings'.
#4. Go down to ACCOLC in this windows and edit it to be 7 or 8.
#5. Click 'View Info' again, then 'Modem Settings'
#6. Edit your Slot Cycle Index (SCI) to 1. You're Preferred Service System should be [Carrier Name] Only. I.E., I use Sprint, so mine says 'Sprint Only'. Finally make sure that 'HDR Hybrid Preferred' is enabled.
#6.b While you are already here, click 'View Info', then 'Data Parameters', and make sure that your Rev.A is ENABLED!!!
#7. Click OK at the top right corner and click OK again. You MUST let it Soft Reset... Or else!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted: :-p

I am almost certain this will help you guys out... Just lemme know if you feel it is any better over a while. Be sure to charge your battery all the way before testing.
OH!... Gotta add another quick step before posting... ... ... ... K!

Do you mind if I add this to my battery life writeup?

Tilde88 07-17-2009 10:26 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Lol of course not.

Hey I saw your Myspace has this pic saying Jan 20 09 Biggest mistake ever...
Just curious ??

**EDIT**
Nvm, lol I'm a dumbass...

frazell 07-18-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bullet2300 (Post 1043020)
I feel terrible for you guys... I wake up at 7:30 and start using my phone through the entire day fairly regularly for e-mail, streaming radio, etc. and by the time I get home and charge it again at 10:30 I usually have about 40% battery life left... This is my 2nd TP, but my first was just as good.

I think it has a lot to do with how the device is used. My buddy has a TP and says he can go all day, at least, on one charge and it takes me 3 batteries for an average day.

But I have Exchange Push setup and I get a fair bit of email so it is almost like having 3G on and downloading almost constantly...

karate134 07-18-2009 03:52 AM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 1043013)
People having battery problems EVEN after trying different radios... This one's for you... Try this and let me know if you see any difference. Note for this study since the terms are just battery use and not cellular strength, I recommend everyone flashes to Telus 1.04.05V Radio, and simply avoid roaming. I don't know which is the most [battery] stable Radio for GSM.
#1. You need your SPC. BAFMSL is the quickest way.
Link: http://code.baf.cc/mslgrab/BAFMSL.cab
#2. After getting your SPC, click (from within the program) on EPST. and click 'Edit'
#3. Click 'View Info' then 'NAM Settings'.
#4. Go down to ACCOLC in this windows and edit it to be 7 or 8.
#5. Click 'View Info' again, then 'Modem Settings'
#6. Edit your Slot Cycle Index (SCI) to 1. You're Preferred Service System should be [Carrier Name] Only. I.E., I use Sprint, so mine says 'Sprint Only'. Finally make sure that 'HDR Hybrid Preferred' is enabled.
#6.b While you are already here, click 'View Info', then 'Data Parameters', and make sure that your Rev.A is ENABLED!!!
#7. Click OK at the top right corner and click OK again. You MUST let it Soft Reset... Or else!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted: :-p

I am almost certain this will help you guys out... Just lemme know if you feel it is any better over a while. Be sure to charge your battery all the way before testing.
OH!... Gotta add another quick step before posting... ... ... ... K!


What does #4. ACCOLC do?

Tilde88 07-18-2009 10:14 AM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
It is designed for GSM bands in case of emergencies to block out a certain range of network channels to control data flow for security personnel. But it has a side effect, this setting changes the millisecond polling of towers. This is good to have at a higher number (highest 9) for people with less signal because when the phone's signal is low it continuously polls the satellites (to make it simple: if you have bad signal, it will keep attempting to get a better signal by pushing the connection... Which depletes your battery) in an attempt to raise the signal.

aanast2 07-30-2009 04:53 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kabuk1 (Post 1042988)
I used to get terrible battery life, and I fixed it. I easily go all day on a single charge now. Check out the link in my sig.

Thanks. :thumbleft: I've tried almost every single thing on your helpful myspace list (except for flashing to a custom ROM). Even though I have the Diamond I figure most could help.

Unfortunately I only get about 2 hours of talk time (sometimes 1.5 sometimes 2.5).
:-({|=


How many hours of talk time do you get now?

Tilde88 07-30-2009 05:10 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Lol my phone works for almost 2 days just almost.... I do about 25-40 phone calls which are at least 2 mins each... so talk time that i actually use at max would be 80 mins, but on day two of not charging (i refuse to charge overnight, and charge only when it dies) itll be depleted by the time i take my pre-sleep shower (~1-2am)

KillAByteZ 07-30-2009 06:43 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilde88 (Post 1043013)
People having battery problems EVEN after trying different radios... This one's for you... Try this and let me know if you see any difference. Note for this study since the terms are just battery use and not cellular strength, I recommend everyone flashes to Telus 1.04.05V Radio, and simply avoid roaming. I don't know which is the most [battery] stable Radio for GSM.
#1. You need your SPC. BAFMSL is the quickest way.
Link: http://code.baf.cc/mslgrab/BAFMSL.cab
#2. After getting your SPC, click (from within the program) on EPST. and click 'Edit'
#3. Click 'View Info' then 'NAM Settings'.
#4. Go down to ACCOLC in this windows and edit it to be 7 or 8.
#5. Click 'View Info' again, then 'Modem Settings'
#6. Edit your Slot Cycle Index (SCI) to 1. You're Preferred Service System should be [Carrier Name] Only. I.E., I use Sprint, so mine says 'Sprint Only'. Finally make sure that 'HDR Hybrid Preferred' is enabled.
#6.b While you are already here, click 'View Info', then 'Data Parameters', and make sure that your Rev.A is ENABLED!!!
#7. Click OK at the top right corner and click OK again. You MUST let it Soft Reset... Or else!:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted: :-p

I am almost certain this will help you guys out... Just lemme know if you feel it is any better over a while. Be sure to charge your battery all the way before testing.
OH!... Gotta add another quick step before posting... ... ... ... K!


Would i Have to do this everytime i flash a new ROM???

jmelan 07-30-2009 09:25 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
why can't the battery just work on the TP, it seems like it took HTC a year to release a rom with decent battery usage on the mogul, i am just shocked at the recurrence of battery problems on the TP

jmelan 07-30-2009 09:29 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
as a test, i left my TP on in an area of a hospital with no signal - battery went from 80% to dead in less than 2 hours, after that i had to start turning the phone off when i went to that area

skruff77 07-30-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
I think it has to do with wm 6.5. when i was on 6.1 the battery life was alright. And why is my battery getting hot???? its just weird

brushrop03 07-30-2009 10:01 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmelan (Post 1071735)
as a test, i left my TP on in an area of a hospital with no signal - battery went from 80% to dead in less than 2 hours, after that i had to start turning the phone off when i went to that area

yeah if u dont have any signal your phone is a gonner...just accept that. it will waste battery looking for a signal. thats w/any phone

Tilde88 07-30-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillAByteZ (Post 1071353)
Would i Have to do this everytime i flash a new ROM???

No, this stays embedded in your phones' NAND flash chip (er i think its the NAND could be diff).
If however you end up screwing up something in your phone you also have to manually replace the settings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmelan (Post 1071733)
why can't the battery just work on the TP, it seems like it took HTC a year to release a rom with decent battery usage on the mogul, i am just shocked at the recurrence of battery problems on the TP

The actual HTC Touch Pro -Unbranded- is the buttcrap <--:mrgreen:! However, after our lovely phone carriers (Sprint, Telus, crApT&T and so forth) modify them for their customers expectations they actually end up making it a P.O.S.... And sometimes like with Verizon they completely lock down GPS through SPL bootloader so you can pay a little more for internet GPS...w00t!](*,)](*,)](*,)

Tilde88 07-30-2009 11:57 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brushrop03 (Post 1071820)
yeah if u dont have any signal your phone is a gonner...just accept that. it will waste battery looking for a signal. thats w/any phone

If your phone is in a dead signal area as the poster above you was, raise your ACCOLC to 9 as well as your Slot Cycle index... If you don't know what these are then stop beeing a lurker and read my post earlier! :-D
I guarantee your battery life should double in that area... (If you dont use your data connection much. Texting on 1x (roaming) is fine... Data slow but ok too...

KillAByteZ 07-31-2009 12:09 AM

ok ...i tried the settings some the post i quoted earlier and, i saw quite a bit of change on my TP. i talked for about 30 min and i only dropped to 90% and didnt get as hot. before it would get very hot and battery would drop to 70%. ima get on youtube to see if its drainin.

Tilde88 07-31-2009 11:09 AM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KillAByteZ (Post 1072048)
ok ...i tried the settings some the post i quoted earlier and, i saw quite a bit of change on my TP. i talked for about 30 min and i only dropped to 90% and didnt get as hot. before it would get very hot and battery would drop to 70%. ima get on youtube to see if its drainin.

:D as i said... Guaranteed
Yw:headbang:

KillAByteZ 07-31-2009 04:17 PM

Re: Question.why Cant I Get 6 Hours Off 1 Battery?>>
 
One more question...does anybody have this settings set to dafault for the ALLTEL TP? I didnt write mine down and wanna have em just in case.


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