Touch Pro vs Touch Pro 2 (seeking TP2 users input)

[NinjaPenguin]

Originally Posted by jbearamus

1. HTC has mentioned the TP2 and Diamond2 will be upgraded to 6.5 if it isn't already there at the time of launch
2. The TP2 is available in europe and yes we have had european users on the forum before so maybe Penguin was hoping to get lucky and be able to talk to someone that has it
Just a guess anyway

Exactly. I have a friend who is in Europe for another month on business who was able to play around with one of them. According to the reps over there they should be at Winmo6.5 soon.

Also, @Thedudelasse. Thanks for the videos, I'll check them out when I'm home later. I'm at work and can't view them : /

[MultiMatt]

Originally Posted by bmb2n

A lost of D-Pad might make precise input a bit more difficult on the TP2.

I hopped on this forum to post a question of that very subject, and saw that you guys were already discussing it here.

For the price of a larger, tilting screen, an updated TouchFLO 3D and better speakerphone capability, we lose the following:

• LED light for camera (in lieu of a mute button)
• Tab and Ctrl hardware keys (on the Sprint version anyway)
• The Directional Pad.

It's the latter that I am the most concerned about. I use my device one-handed a LOT, and the directional pad accomplishes so much in that task. For example:

• I scroll through emails and Reply/Delete/Move them via the directional pad.
• In an email, I use the directional pad to jump from one link to another
• Same thing for navigating through links in any of the various browsers I use
• Speaking of browsers, there are times where I might need to move the cursor in a URL in the address bar, and once again, I use the directional pad to do that. BTW, the only keyboard that has arrows to allow you to do that same thing is the default Windows keyboard - I checked all the others...
• I use the directional pad to navigate around in the Calendar (either viewing or editing an appointment)
• Same thing with a contact, particularly when creating a new one, or editing.
• And the list goes on...

How does one accomplish so many of these things sans a directional pad? And in those cases where I would use the hardware keyboard, (the Sprint version) has lost it's Tab key, so I guess it's back to tapping the screen to move to the next field...

In a way, I'm glad there's a delay in the Sprint version coming out, because I really need to give serious consideration to the comprimises the TP2 would require of my usage habits. The $60,000 question is whether I would really be gaining anything (given what I would lose)...

Eager to hear your thoughts on this...

Matt
Windows Mobile Louisville

[MadlyAlive]

I will be jumping to a TP2 as my g/f hates her Treo 800w and wants my TP.

[ronaldheld]

I do not use the direction pad anymore, although I did in the begiining.

[PdaAddict]

3.6 WVGA is very tempting but since it is an HTC phone I will pass. I have had enough problems with my TP to ever trust HTC again. Samsung only please.

[PolloLoco]

It might not matter to you, but the Pro 2 does NOT have improved video drivers. I had a chat with a "friend" on a gaming forum - who thought the Pro 2 was great for emulators. But after running some benchmarks, we found out that the results were pretty similar.

In fact, after doing a head to head benchmark using TCPMP - my Touch Pro was a bit faster. Which I attribute to the extra pixels that have to be pushed on the Pro 2.

In otherwords, expect some compatibility issues from the new screen - and no speed improvements. To me, it's not really an upgrade.

[NinjaPenguin]

I don't use the DPad much anymore either. I can't see the "upgrade" cost at $600 justified when we are getting what we already have, just with the bigger resolution screen. Thanks for all the input though, it really shed some light. I might have to hold out and wait for the Tegra it sounds.

[MultiMatt]

So I'm curious (from a usability standpoint) of how you do some of the things I mentioned, without using the D-pad, particularly one-handed. Are you that accurate with your thumb?

[jbearamus]

Originally Posted by MultiMatt

So I'm curious (from a usability standpoint) of how you do some of the things I mentioned, without using the D-pad, particularly one-handed. Are you that accurate with your thumb?

actually yes, 6 years of practice (for me anyway) with Pocket PC Pro 2003 and WinMo 5/6/6.5 i've figured out land on the screen just the right way to get what i want, inside of some programs i use the stylus or d-pad but 99% of the time, it's all thumb

[bmb2n]

With enough practice and patience, we can learn to live without D-Pad like iPhone users. Or else, grow our nails longer and trim them like a stylus.