Windows Mobile 6.1 / 6.5 / 7 ::UPDATE::

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by Asphyx

Look I know 6.5 has some improvements over 6.1 but none of them are stability. MR5 is probably the most stable and if I had to run one thts what I would pick...

But my problems with 6.5 go a lot deeper...
Some here got me POed because they claim 6.5 is the FUTURE...
Well if that is the FUTURE of this platform then this platform is dead!

When you have things like android and iphone doing things in a so much better and user friendly way you have to ask is it really worth supporting the future of a platform that can't break itself away from the standard START button and widget plugin? I should trade stability for a navigation program? I would bet that the gurus here and at XDA could make that 6.5 frontend in about a week if they really wanted to for 6.1 but they haven't why? Because it's not really all that good!

Even SPB Mobile 3 is better than 6.5, TF3D2 is closer to where we should be than honeycomb and widget slider...IF it was expanded (or a private project that was constantly being developed and added to) then TF3D would do everything 6.5 does and more!

I voted that I'm waiting for Win7 simply because what the WM system needs is a complete overhaul of the user interface!
6.5 is nothing more than a paintjob of the same old start menu and launcher plugin. yes it tweaked how the slider functions work but yet still doesn't support multitouch and object resizing on the fly...Hell that technology has been around for 5 years now when does THAT future make it into my phone?

I much prefer something that would allow me to organize my screens and applets based on how I use my phone.

if 6.5 is the future of WM then I will pass and get an iphone once they add all the features they haven't gotten to yet.

And while I'm waiting I'll stick to the familiar 6.1 that I know will work when I need it to, will run any software I could buy and want and won't require me to reboot just to get a phone call!

You folks who like 6.5 enjoy it!
but stop chastizing the rest of us who put stability before fancy today screens and navigation systems!

I've read the thread nowhere do i chastize anyone except the op and that is when he read more people using 6.1 over 6.5 and that was because he was including people who hadn't even tried it out, so i thought that was dumb. Now as for stability i can't say that the 6.1 rom is soooo much more stable, maybe just a lil bit, but as for not realizing that 6.5 is the future then you are deceiving yourself. after about 1 month or so, i don't think windows will ever make a 6.1 device again, so wheter you want to jump on or not its up to you, you can stay running out of date devices that run 6.1 or when you finally feel like upgrading you'll be forced to 6.5 unless you don't plan on upgrading for about 2 years, then of course be my guess and wait for w7, but other then that, 6.5 is better by far. The only thing 6.1 has going for it is that its more stable, and to be honest, the build i'm using is just as stable as 6.1. People keep complaining about all these bugs that don't make it stable but its funny how my phone does none of those things. So like i said i'm not hating you for using 6.1 because its you and your phone, but if you think 6.1 is better then 6.5, then you're on your own, not even microsoft thinks that which is why 6.5 will be released this fall. Also i just noticed your a verizon user, you shouldn't be using 6.5 anyways because your phone doesn't even have the capabilities, so you of course experience massive bugs.
Also you're comparing tf3d2 to 6.5, that doesn't make anysense, because you can run tf3d2 on 6.1 and 6.5, but with 6.1 you're stuck with the old scrolling which is horrible compared to 6.5. you can alos run mobile shell on 6.5 so those statements don't add to your point. We are stictly talking about gui.

[iammarkus]

Originally Posted by 06MS6

Using MightyROM 5 right now...I'm pretty sure I'll never go back to 6.1

Is not MightyROM 5 6.1?

[p-slim]

anybody who uses windows 6.5 and goes back to 6.1 is foolish. The only logical explanation would be that you want the most stable rom, that would be the only reason. other then that 6.5 is better by leaps and bounds over 6.1. Also not to mention windows themselves won't be making another 6.1 device so why would someone want to live in the past, this is like comparing 6.1 to 6.0 or even windowms mobile 5. Why would someone be working backwards. Sounds like when old people don't want to get dvr's because they are so use to their vcr's, even though a dvr is 10 times easier to operate and program then a vcr.

[Asphyx]

Originally Posted by p-slim

anybody who uses windows 6.5 and goes back to 6.1 is foolish. The only logical explanation would be that you want the most stable rom, that would be the only reason. other then that 6.5 is better by leaps and bounds over 6.1. Also not to mention windows themselves won't be making another 6.1 device so why would someone want to live in the past, this is like comparing 6.1 to 6.0 or even windowms mobile 5. Why would someone be working backwards. Sounds like when old people don't want to get dvr's because they are so use to their vcr's, even though a dvr is 10 times easier to operate and program then a vcr.

Please tell me what is BETTER about an unstable phone....
We work TOWARDS stability not away (backwards) from it....

Why do you still use a doorbell and not an automatic lock that uses the latest face recognition software to let people you know in?

Is it because the latest and greatest doesn't do as good a job as the good old fashioned doorbell?
because half the time it doesn't recognize you and let you into your own house until someone can reboot the system?

Think about what you said and then tell me which one of us is going backwards and is foolish!

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by Asphyx

Please tell me what is BETTER about an unstable phone....
We work TOWARDS stability not away (backwards) from it....

Why do you still use a doorbell and not an automatic lock that uses the latest face recognition software to let people you know in?

Is it because the latest and greatest doesn't do as good a job as the good old fashioned doorbell?
because half the time it doesn't recognize you and let you into your own house until someone can reboot the system?

Think about what you said and then tell me which one of us is going backwards and is foolish!

As has been stated multiple times all of the roms with a 21500 build or higher are extremely stable. in the beginning with 6.5 came out this would have been a better question. now with 6.5 out there maybe minor unstabilities but for the programs i run, 6.1 is not more stable then 6.5. Plus the upgraded features and finger friendly everything definitely outmatch the minor instabilities. Why do you think the iphone is killing windows, because nothing on windows 6.1 is finger friendly which is why they created 6.5 and tf3d. finger friendly devices are in, and 6.1 is definitely not finger friendly.

[Asphyx]

Originally Posted by p-slim

As has been stated multiple times all of the roms with a 21500 build or higher are extremely stable. in the beginning with 6.5 came out this would have been a better question. now with 6.5 out there maybe minor unstabilities but for the programs i run, 6.1 is not more stable then 6.5. Plus the upgraded features and finger friendly everything definitely outmatch the minor instabilities. Why do you think the iphone is killing windows, because nothing on windows 6.1 is finger friendly which is why they created 6.5 and tf3d. finger friendly devices are in, and 6.1 is definitely not finger friendly.

Well lets tackle the last part first...My 6.1 is every bit as finger friendly as your 6.5....Try MightyMike's 6.1 roms and you will see this...

You say 6.5 is extremely stable...Ok how about ringer corruption, incompatabilities with tons of software we use, (Try second today or s2a for example!)
And when my phone rings guess what....I can ANSWER IT! where most people running 6.5 have issues and report of missed calls!

Hmm Less features...reduced or borken functionality of the MAIN FEATURE of the device and I'm living in the past?
no...I'm living in the FUNCTIONAL world....
6.5 works great right after you reset it...and once you use it for something expect to reset again!

I have run ALL of the latest flavors of 6.5 out there....
It is not ready for prime time!
You want to live in a BETA world feel free...
But your the fool if you think less functionality and quirky operations, endless resets and dropped calls is your definition of progress!

[Nimdock]

Originally Posted by Asphyx

Well lets tackle the last part first...My 6.1 is every bit as finger friendly as your 6.5....Try MightyMike's 6.1 roms and you will see this...

You say 6.5 is extremely stable...Ok how about ringer corruption, incompatabilities with tons of software we use, (Try second today or s2a for example!)
And when my phone rings guess what....I can ANSWER IT! where most people running 6.5 have issues and report of missed calls!

Hmm Less features...reduced or borken functionality of the MAIN FEATURE of the device and I'm living in the past?
no...I'm living in the FUNCTIONAL world....
6.5 works great right after you reset it...and once you use it for something expect to reset again!

I have run ALL of the latest flavors of 6.5 out there....
It is not ready for prime time!
You want to live in a BETA world feel free...
But your the fool if you think less functionality and quirky operations, endless resets and dropped calls is your definition of progress!

Hummm... I guess I need to inform my phone that it needs to start acting according to your post because so far with my 6.5 rom, I can answer my phone, no missed calls, haven't rebooted for 2 days and everything is running smooth. Oh, and all the software that I use runs with no problems... Go figure.

I did experience the ringtone corruption issue 2 days ago, but hasn't happened again... Come on phone, you better behave according to Asphyx's post.

I guess the poll is also completely wrong as it is obvious that most people want to fly back to 6.1.

[molitar]

Originally Posted by Asphyx

Well lets tackle the last part first...My 6.1 is every bit as finger friendly as your 6.5....Try MightyMike's 6.1 roms and you will see this...

You say 6.5 is extremely stable...Ok how about ringer corruption, incompatabilities with tons of software we use, (Try second today or s2a for example!)
And when my phone rings guess what....I can ANSWER IT! where most people running 6.5 have issues and report of missed calls!

Hmm Less features...reduced or borken functionality of the MAIN FEATURE of the device and I'm living in the past?
no...I'm living in the FUNCTIONAL world....
6.5 works great right after you reset it...and once you use it for something expect to reset again!

I have run ALL of the latest flavors of 6.5 out there....
It is not ready for prime time!
You want to live in a BETA world feel free...
But your the fool if you think less functionality and quirky operations, endless resets and dropped calls is your definition of progress!

I have to agree with you! Nothing like not being able to answer the phone call.. nothing like having ringer stop working! Nothing like today having my phone crash on me with Contact Manager, than File explorer would not open.. finally I had to soft reset the phone and it started running customization again on me. Nothing like having to restore the phone every few days! 6.5 is NOT READY!

[jucytec]

Originally Posted by p-slim

anybody who uses windows 6.5 and goes back to 6.1 is foolish. The only logical explanation would be that you want the most stable rom, that would be the only reason. other then that 6.5 is better by leaps and bounds over 6.1. Also not to mention windows themselves won't be making another 6.1 device so why would someone want to live in the past, this is like comparing 6.1 to 6.0 or even windowms mobile 5. Why would someone be working backwards. Sounds like when old people don't want to get dvr's because they are so use to their vcr's, even though a dvr is 10 times easier to operate and program then a vcr.

Poor analogy my man...

Comparing VCRs to DVRs is like comparing Apples to Monkeys...

Not exactly an apple to orange type of comparison.

IF... what you were saying was TRUE....
Windows Vista would be better than Windows XP. and ANYONE running windows XP would be foolish.

But that's not the case is it? Vista had and still has some serious issues, and the only people who are using it have settled for now or have reverted back to XP...

I think that's a better analogy when comparing 6.5 vs 6.1 I don't doubt that 6.5 is feature packed, but... it won't be all it can be for awhile. and for those who reverted to 6.1... are only saying we'll wait till 6.5/7 behaves as it should.

[p-slim]

Originally Posted by jucytec

Poor analogy my man...

Comparing VCRs to DVRs is like comparing Apples to Monkeys...

Not exactly an apple to orange type of comparison.

IF... what you were saying was TRUE....
Windows Vista would be better than Windows XP. and ANYONE running windows XP would be foolish.

But that's not the case is it? Vista had and still has some serious issues, and the only people who are using it have settled for now or have reverted back to XP...

I think that's a better analogy when comparing 6.5 vs 6.1 I don't doubt that 6.5 is feature packed, but... it won't be all it can be for awhile. and for those who reverted to 6.1... are only saying we'll wait till 6.5/7 behaves as it should.

i guess thats another argument because i'm not going to say xp is better then vista. Also in the beginning xp was better but now vista is killing xp i'm sorry. its time to upgrade man, stop living in the past. 6.1 is dead and xp is pretty much dead, especially since windows tech support doesn't support it anymore.