Alltel Touch Pro to Verizon, please help.

[battlemac]

If that true I may have go after the Alltel TP. I take it sprint and other cmda brands(not Alltel) would not work on VZW anymore based on what I read. Thank you.

[Adrianh85]

Originally Posted by battlemac

If that true I may have go after the Alltel TP. I take it sprint and other cmda brands(not Alltel) would not work on VZW anymore based on what I read. Thank you.

idont see how thats true!! Based on the fact that when u activate a phone other companies dont know about it!! so i dont know how they could tell if it was activated at anything on another carrier!! as long as u changed the correct settings in the espt i dont see why u couldnt have a verizon branded device then activate it on sprint then turn around and activate it on verizon once agian!!!

[AceXMachine]

Originally Posted by battlemac

If that true I may have go after the Alltel TP. I take it sprint and other cmda brands(not Alltel) would not work on VZW anymore based on what I read. Thank you.

Any CDMA phone, regardless of brand CAN work. The problem with Alltel devices is that they are now loaded in the VZW DMD but are restricted to Alltel markets (accounts that are still on Alltel plans/coverage). Prior to this they were not loaded and could be loaded into the DMD as anything (like a VZW TP) and could be activated. A friend of mine had a contact in VZW HQ IT that could change them in the DMD from Alltel (restricted) to VZW but said that he stopped doing it and hasn't found anyone else willing to do it. In short, it can be done, but because of the merger it has made getting Alltel devices working on VZW accounts nearly impossible unless they were allready loaded as a VZW device prior to the merger of the DMDs.

[Adrianh85]

Originally Posted by AceXMachine

Any CDMA phone, regardless of brand CAN work. The problem with Alltel devices is that they are now loaded in the VZW DMD but are restricted to Alltel markets (accounts that are still on Alltel plans/coverage). Prior to this they were not loaded and could be loaded into the DMD as anything (like a VZW TP) and could be activated. A friend of mine had a contact in VZW HQ IT that could change them in the DMD from Alltel (restricted) to VZW but said that he stopped doing it and hasn't found anyone else willing to do it. In short, it can be done, but because of the merger it has made getting Alltel devices working on VZW accounts nearly impossible unless they were allready loaded as a VZW device prior to the merger of the DMDs.

thats what i have been doing with sprint phones telling verizon to put in paper as if it was a alltel device but like u said they have merged!!

[ncwildcat]

Originally Posted by adrianh85

thats what i have been doing with sprint phones telling verizon to put in paper as if it was a alltel device but like u said they have merged!!

I have run into this same problem with tech support refusing to put my alltel pro onto a verizon plan. Just changing the plan and they won't do it because they would have to add my ESN to their network and they wont add any alltel esn's

[battlemac]

Dunno. But, I think the esn has to be in their system.

[Adrianh85]

Originally Posted by battlemac

Dunno. But, I think the esn has to be in their system.

if the phone was branded verizon and the esn was added to sprint. the esn is still on verizons network they dont erase it, they dont even know its been used on another network unless u tell them! i know verizon over the air activation will probly over write old settings!! no harm no foul!!!


Please dont forget with useful info comes a thank u in return!!!

[AceXMachine]

Just FYI, OTAP does not change all settings required for all services to work. All that OTAP does it program the MTN (your number), MIN (mobile inventory number), default SID (system ID) and PRL. As far as MIP settings, it will only change the MDN part, not the domain. It is easy enough to get a Sprint phone working on Sprints network, a bit harder to get a Sprint phone working 100% on VZW's network. I don't know why some people have such problems, specifically with data in most cases. Assuming all settings are correct, either having a tech reset DMU keys in the AAA while the battery is pulled on the device or forcing 1X to write the HA/AAA keys should work. If not the first time, within the first 3-5 attempts. I have done dozens of phones, both my own and others, and this is always the case.

[battlemac]

Good point, thanks.

[Adrianh85]

Originally Posted by battlemac

Good point, thanks.

i was talking about the thanks button all the way to the right of u screen!!!