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Old 04-13-2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

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Additionally, double check that your device_scan_path registry edits are sticking. I was trying to duplicate the behavior you were describing and noticed when I'd change a key here and there the value wouldn't stick or maybe I didn't save my changes. At any rate, just take a second look that both are updated and matching.
Thanks, but I tried setting ring_tone_path set as \Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones and my collection of tones located there (or anywhere else I add it to) STILL gets added to the library.

However, if I move all the ringtones to \My Documents\My Ringtones and use that for the ring_tone_path key, the exclusion works! For me, it seems that I can't exclude ringtones on a storage card.

Now I just have to fix the problem with duplicate music file listings, which persists. For the moment, I just have one .mp3 file in the \MUSIC directory in order to keep things simple. The Music tab still shows TWO copies of this file.

I do check after each reboot to ensure that the registry edits "took" prior to re-enabling TF3D. Thus far, they always have.

I tried setting both the music paths back to \MUSIC since I suspect (but am not sure) this is the default.

I'll try moving everything to directories named as in pringlet's post, setting up keys the same, then report back.

Does anyone know what the default registry keys are?

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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

I'm having the exact same issues as you. I'm at work though and can't really "play" to figure it out.

As for the default registry entries though, earlier I deleted the registry keys figuring they'd reset to default on soft reset, and they did. Try that.
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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

I've played a bit while at work, all my registry entries are sticking, nothing's reverting back to before. I can't figure out where it's pulling the SD Card ringtones folder from, it's not listed anywhere in the registry.

If I can't figure this out I either have to delete tons of tones and then send the rest to the phone memory (which I don't want to do, I'm picky about the memory on the phone), or just not use the TF3D player, which would be a shame bc I just switched back to TF3D since I flashed an SSK rom and got back lots of memory.

(As a side note, SSK roms are the saving grace of the Verizon TP imo. I spent the weekend flashing and reflashing, must have done it 15 times. Tried others like Juicy and Mighty, finally settled on an SSK build from the kitchen, and it rocks hardcore. If I disable TF3D I'm sitting at about 40% which is 64.18 free. With TF3D enabled I'm at 52%, which is 50.18 meg free. Wayyyyyy better than stock).
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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

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Thanks, but I tried setting ring_tone_path set as \Storage Card\My Documents\My Ringtones and my collection of tones located there (or anywhere else I add it to) STILL gets added to the library.

However, if I move all the ringtones to \My Documents\My Ringtones and use that for the ring_tone_path key, the exclusion works! For me, it seems that I can't exclude ringtones on a storage card.

Now I just have to fix the problem with duplicate music file listings, which persists. For the moment, I just have one .mp3 file in the \MUSIC directory in order to keep things simple. The Music tab still shows TWO copies of this file.

I do check after each reboot to ensure that the registry edits "took" prior to re-enabling TF3D. Thus far, they always have.

I tried setting both the music paths back to \MUSIC since I suspect (but am not sure) this is the default.

I'll try moving everything to directories named as in pringlet's post, setting up keys the same, then report back.

Does anyone know what the default registry keys are?
My defaults are set at \My Documents\My Music for both and \My Documents\My Ringtones
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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

Hi @all!

I think I've found the solution für this problem.

At first I've got to mention that I've first tried the recommenced steps of pringlet in Post #2, but they didn't take effect for me. However, these settings are on my device still present. So if my solution doesn't work for anyone, you could try to change these settings additionally but it shouldn't be necessary.

Ok, let's go to my solution. Please read all the steps first before applying them. I'm not responsible for any damage made to your device or lost data!

First: Close Manila!

Second: Delete the whole library:
Deleting HTC Music Library:
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\"
  • Try to delete the file "AudioManager_Eng.vol".
    Maybe this will not work because AudioManager is still running in the background. So kill it first (if you have the necessary program) or just rename the file to something similar, for example to "AudioManager_Eng-1.vol". (You now also have a backup if everything fails)
  • You don't have to delete the folder "playlists". However, if you have playlists with files you don't want to have in your library anymore, delete these playlists or remove these tracks.
Deleting Windows Media Player Library:
  • Propably this isn't necessary. Since I don't use Media Player at all, I deleted the whole library to be sure, it doesn't have an effect on HTC's library.
  • Warning: If you delete the MS-Media Library, all additional information of your tracks will be lost, for example play count, rating etc.! If you want to keep these informations, don't delete this file! (But perhaps you won't get the expected results at the end)
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\"
  • Delete the content. (Probably the file is not deleteable. Check if Media Player is closed completly. If it still doesn't work, try to rename the file as mentioned above)
  • Go to the folder "\Storage Card\MSMETADATA\"
  • Try to delete "XMEMediaLibrary.mlb". If it can't be deleted try to rename it again. On my device, this failed to. But renaming the folder "MSMETADATA" to "MSMETADATA-" worked quite fine.
Checking, if everything was successful (really not necessary!):
  • If you open Media Player now, the whole library should be empty. (Don't try to rebuild the library now!)
  • You also could check, if the HTC library is now empty. But please don't try it now, the library could then be rebuild and you would have to start at the beginning again!
    However, I still will mention this step:
    If the process "AudioManager_eng.exe" is still running in the background and you open Manila again, the database should not be rebuild. If you go to the music tab, there should be the message, that no music files could be found.
    If the process isn't running, the library will be rebuild and you should see the text "Scanning..." or "Searching..." (or something like that). If you read this text, you really have to start at the top again: Close Manila and delete the HTC Libraray. (Media Player Library still should be empty.)
Third: Setting folder to be scanned or to be skipped:
This is the propably most important step. You need an advanced file explorer. I recommend a tool called "Total Commander" (great utility ).

So, let's talk about the "secret trick" :
  • Your whole device will be scanned for music again, but you are able to exclude some directories.
  • Just open Total Commander, go to the directory you want to be excluded (don't open it, just go to the above directory so you can see the excluded directory listed as an subfolder)
  • Open the context menu of the folder (tab and hold on it) and click on properties.
  • Active the option "Hidden" by setting a checkmark. (Perhaps open the properties again to check if the change was successful)
  • Repeat these steps for every directory you want to be excluded (also subdirs are excluded).
  • Note: Every folder marked as hidden is skipped during the scan. Propably your standard file explorer will not display these folders anymore. Of course the files still exist, they are only hidden. You can set your file explorer that it also displays hidden files/folders. Other programs shouldn't have a problem to find these files because they still exists under the same path. (So ringtones set to a contact aren't lost.) But perhaps if you want to set a new ringtone, the files aren't displayed anymore. So if you want to change some settings and the files are gone, don't worry: just set the setting back to visible temporary, make the changes you want and don't forget to set it back to hidden again!
  • Note: Don't forget to exclude directories containing a backup or so of the file, too. I first wondered why a special file still exists and then noticed, that i forgot to exclude my backup-dir .
The last step: Rebuild your music library:
  • You now can rebuild your HTC music library. To do this, you have two options to choose from:
    a) Softreset your device
    b) Kill the background process "AudioManager_eng.exe". (You will need a special program to do this)
  • Enable/Start Manila again. (After you closed AudioManger, if you have chosen option B!)
When you switch to the music tab, you should see the message, that a scan is performed. After a while the music files are displayed again.
Check if still files exist you don't want to have in your library. See in which folder they are located and exclude this directory, too.

Note: Because I don't use Windows Media Player, I didn't rebuild the Media Player Library. If you need to rescan for files, please do that later. It is possible, that some files are added to HTC Library again you don't want to. So please check first if your HTC Library is working now. After that, you can try to rescan your Windows MP Lib. Please check again (after a reboot), if your HTC Library is still ok. If it isn't you will have to choose which program is more important for you.

I hope this explanation helped you and you have a clean library now.
Enjoy it!



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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

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Originally Posted by Bernhard005 View Post
Hi @all!

I think I've found the solution für this problem.

At first I've got to mention that I've first tried the recommenced steps of pringlet in Post #2, but they didn't take effect for me. However, these settings are on my device still present. So if my solution doesn't work for anyone, you could try to change these settings additionally but it shouldn't be necessary.

Ok, let's go to my solution. Please read all the steps first before applying them. I'm not responsible for any damage made to your device or lost data!

First: Close Manila!

Second: Delete the whole library:
Deleting HTC Music Library:
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\"
  • Try to delete the file "AudioManager_Eng.vol".
    Maybe this will not work because AudioManager is still running in the background. So kill it first (if you have the necessary program) or just rename the file to something similar, for example to "AudioManager_Eng-1.vol". (You now also have a backup if everything fails)
  • You don't have to delete the folder "playlists". However, if you have playlists with files you don't want to have in your library anymore, delete these playlists or remove these tracks.
Deleting Windows Media Player Library:
  • Propably this isn't necessary. Since I don't use Media Player at all, I deleted the whole library to be sure, it doesn't have an effect on HTC's library.
  • Warning: If you delete the MS-Media Library, all additional information of your tracks will be lost, for example play count, rating etc.! If you want to keep these informations, don't delete this file! (But perhaps you won't get the expected results at the end)
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\"
  • Delete the content. (Probably the file is not deleteable. Check if Media Player is closed completly. If it still doesn't work, try to rename the file as mentioned above)
  • Go to the folder "\Storage Card\MSMETADATA\"
  • Try to delete "XMEMediaLibrary.mlb". If it can't be deleted try to rename it again. On my device, this failed to. But renaming the folder "MSMETADATA" to "MSMETADATA-" worked quite fine.
Checking, if everything was successful (really not necessary!):
  • If you open Media Player now, the whole library should be empty. (Don't try to rebuild the library now!)
  • You also could check, if the HTC library is now empty. But please don't try it now, the library could then be rebuild and you would have to start at the beginning again!
    However, I still will mention this step:
    If the process "AudioManager_eng.exe" is still running in the background and you open Manila again, the database should not be rebuild. If you go to the music tab, there should be the message, that no music files could be found.
    If the process isn't running, the library will be rebuild and you should see the text "Scanning..." or "Searching..." (or something like that). If you read this text, you really have to start at the top again: Close Manila and delete the HTC Libraray. (Media Player Library still should be empty.)
Third: Setting folder to be scanned or to be skipped:
This is the propably most important step. You need an advanced file explorer. I recommend a tool called "Total Commander" (great utility ).

So, let's talk about the "secret trick" :
  • Your whole device will be scanned for music again, but you are able to exclude some directories.
  • Just open Total Commander, go to the directory you want to be excluded (don't open it, just go to the above directory so you can see the excluded directory listed as an subfolder)
  • Open the context menu of the folder (tab and hold on it) and click on properties.
  • Active the option "Hidden" by setting a checkmark. (Perhaps open the properties again to check if the change was successful)
  • Repeat these steps for every directory you want to be excluded (also subdirs are excluded).
  • Note: Every folder marked as hidden is skipped during the scan. Propably your standard file explorer will not display these folders anymore. Of course the files still exist, they are only hidden. You can set your file explorer that it also displays hidden files/folders. Other programs shouldn't have a problem to find these files because they still exists under the same path. (So ringtones set to a contact aren't lost.) But perhaps if you want to set a new ringtone, the files aren't displayed anymore. So if you want to change some settings and the files are gone, don't worry: just set the setting back to visible temporary, make the changes you want and don't forget to set it back to hidden again!
  • Note: Don't forget to exclude directories containing a backup or so of the file, too. I first wondered why a special file still exists and then noticed, that i forgot to exclude my backup-dir .
The last step: Rebuild your music library:
  • You now can rebuild your HTC music library. To do this, you have two options to choose from:
    a) Softreset your device
    b) Kill the background process "AudioManager_eng.exe". (You will need a special program to do this)
  • Enable/Start Manila again. (After you closed AudioManger, if you have chosen option B!)
When you switch to the music tab, you should see the message, that a scan is performed. After a while the music files are displayed again.
Check if still files exist you don't want to have in your library. See in which folder they are located and exclude this directory, too.

Note: Because I don't use Windows Media Player, I didn't rebuild the Media Player Library. If you need to rescan for files, please do that later. It is possible, that some files are added to HTC Library again you don't want to. So please check first if your HTC Library is working now. After that, you can try to rescan your Windows MP Lib. Please check again (after a reboot), if your HTC Library is still ok. If it isn't you will have to choose which program is more important for you.

I hope this explanation helped you and you have a clean library now.
Enjoy it!



Tags: HTC, Manila, Touchflo 3D, Audiomanager, Music, Library, Exclude, Directory, Folder, Ringtones
I'll admittedly plead *ignorant* to all things cab/exe related, but any chance of each step, or both, being made into a cab/exe file so your music library could be cleaned up with a single touch?
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Re: Touch Flo 3d Music Library Problem

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernhard005 View Post
Hi @all!

I think I've found the solution für this problem.

At first I've got to mention that I've first tried the recommenced steps of pringlet in Post #2, but they didn't take effect for me. However, these settings are on my device still present. So if my solution doesn't work for anyone, you could try to change these settings additionally but it shouldn't be necessary.

Ok, let's go to my solution. Please read all the steps first before applying them. I'm not responsible for any damage made to your device or lost data!

First: Close Manila!

Second: Delete the whole library:
Deleting HTC Music Library:
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\"
  • Try to delete the file "AudioManager_Eng.vol".
    Maybe this will not work because AudioManager is still running in the background. So kill it first (if you have the necessary program) or just rename the file to something similar, for example to "AudioManager_Eng-1.vol". (You now also have a backup if everything fails)
  • You don't have to delete the folder "playlists". However, if you have playlists with files you don't want to have in your library anymore, delete these playlists or remove these tracks.
Deleting Windows Media Player Library:
  • Propably this isn't necessary. Since I don't use Media Player at all, I deleted the whole library to be sure, it doesn't have an effect on HTC's library.
  • Warning: If you delete the MS-Media Library, all additional information of your tracks will be lost, for example play count, rating etc.! If you want to keep these informations, don't delete this file! (But perhaps you won't get the expected results at the end)
  • Go to the folder "\Application Data\Microsoft\Media Player\"
  • Delete the content. (Probably the file is not deleteable. Check if Media Player is closed completly. If it still doesn't work, try to rename the file as mentioned above)
  • Go to the folder "\Storage Card\MSMETADATA\"
  • Try to delete "XMEMediaLibrary.mlb". If it can't be deleted try to rename it again. On my device, this failed to. But renaming the folder "MSMETADATA" to "MSMETADATA-" worked quite fine.
Checking, if everything was successful (really not necessary!):
  • If you open Media Player now, the whole library should be empty. (Don't try to rebuild the library now!)
  • You also could check, if the HTC library is now empty. But please don't try it now, the library could then be rebuild and you would have to start at the beginning again!
    However, I still will mention this step:
    If the process "AudioManager_eng.exe" is still running in the background and you open Manila again, the database should not be rebuild. If you go to the music tab, there should be the message, that no music files could be found.
    If the process isn't running, the library will be rebuild and you should see the text "Scanning..." or "Searching..." (or something like that). If you read this text, you really have to start at the top again: Close Manila and delete the HTC Libraray. (Media Player Library still should be empty.)
Third: Setting folder to be scanned or to be skipped:
This is the propably most important step. You need an advanced file explorer. I recommend a tool called "Total Commander" (great utility ).

So, let's talk about the "secret trick" :
  • Your whole device will be scanned for music again, but you are able to exclude some directories.
  • Just open Total Commander, go to the directory you want to be excluded (don't open it, just go to the above directory so you can see the excluded directory listed as an subfolder)
  • Open the context menu of the folder (tab and hold on it) and click on properties.
  • Active the option "Hidden" by setting a checkmark. (Perhaps open the properties again to check if the change was successful)
  • Repeat these steps for every directory you want to be excluded (also subdirs are excluded).
  • Note: Every folder marked as hidden is skipped during the scan. Propably your standard file explorer will not display these folders anymore. Of course the files still exist, they are only hidden. You can set your file explorer that it also displays hidden files/folders. Other programs shouldn't have a problem to find these files because they still exists under the same path. (So ringtones set to a contact aren't lost.) But perhaps if you want to set a new ringtone, the files aren't displayed anymore. So if you want to change some settings and the files are gone, don't worry: just set the setting back to visible temporary, make the changes you want and don't forget to set it back to hidden again!
  • Note: Don't forget to exclude directories containing a backup or so of the file, too. I first wondered why a special file still exists and then noticed, that i forgot to exclude my backup-dir .
The last step: Rebuild your music library:
  • You now can rebuild your HTC music library. To do this, you have two options to choose from:
    a) Softreset your device
    b) Kill the background process "AudioManager_eng.exe". (You will need a special program to do this)
  • Enable/Start Manila again. (After you closed AudioManger, if you have chosen option B!)
When you switch to the music tab, you should see the message, that a scan is performed. After a while the music files are displayed again.
Check if still files exist you don't want to have in your library. See in which folder they are located and exclude this directory, too.

Note: Because I don't use Windows Media Player, I didn't rebuild the Media Player Library. If you need to rescan for files, please do that later. It is possible, that some files are added to HTC Library again you don't want to. So please check first if your HTC Library is working now. After that, you can try to rescan your Windows MP Lib. Please check again (after a reboot), if your HTC Library is still ok. If it isn't you will have to choose which program is more important for you.

I hope this explanation helped you and you have a clean library now.
Enjoy it!


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