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Old 04-03-2009, 03:21 PM
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if i find a new app thats not part of my current sdconfig.txt i wouldnt rerun the program to build another one, its as easy as adding a new line into the text file not that labor intensive at all. i personally dont rebuild my sdconfig.txt it more than once i simply just add to it or delete from it. we could go back and forth but it really comes down to user preference. both have their pros and cons
Yeah, that's what this is, I guess... I'm proving I'm too lazy to add one line to a text document, but at the same time, I will go and manually run sashimi each time Then take the time to complain about how it's not completely automated and still requires some action on my part.

With the programs I install, I found I needed a LOT more trial and error with UC to finally get it right, and it needed more of my attention when all was said and done.

Also, Sashimi can install apps to your storage card, instead of internal storage. Agreeably, this isn't huge, as you can just copy .ink files to your start menu, and restore registry keys, but, it's still nice to have. UC isn't able to do this.

No hard feelings, I'm just sharing what I have learned trying both, and which I prefer, and why... removing some of the research for other people.

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I don't know. I personally didn't like the fact that most ROMs aren't sashimi compliant, so it setup an SDConfig to install sashimi, rebooted and then ran sashimi. Then for the life of that flash, I always had sashimi installed on my phone. It just seemed easier to eliminate the middle man and do the SDConfig myself.

As for adding programs you picked up, I never found it a hassle to just type

CAB: Storage Card\Cab\whatever.cab at the end of my SDConfig file.

The other thing about SD Config I like is that I can control the order that things happen in, as opposed to haveing to rename files to work with Sashimi's alphabetical model. To me that was important as far as registry settings\tweaks that had to occur after a particular program was installed, as in the case of inputting serial numbers for me.
I'll agree, renaming files for sashimi is a bit of a pain, but I just add 1-(cabname) and 2-(cabname) to those which are order-sensitive. This is one of the things I feel needs improvement.

Sashimi installs all .cab files first, then reg files, then copies the root files. There's also a synergy feature (my TP is messed up so I can't get to the documentation right now) that will install a .reg file and copy specific files at the same time a .cab is installed, it will even provision xml files at the same time. All that needed to be done was to name the files the same.

So, you have a synergy.cab in your \cab folder, and synergy.reg which you want to be installed with it, put both of them in the same folder - in this case, the \cab folder.

I just got my TP to boot and it's called "Tandem files and bundling" It will install the .cab, then the .reg, .xml or .mscr file that has the same name.
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

ur def. right about the trail and error part lol. that was a ***** i remember the day i decided to figure uc out i must've flashed like 30 times that day!!

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Yeah, that's what this is, I guess... I'm proving I'm too lazy to add one line to a text document, but at the same time, I will go and manually run sashimi each time Then take the time to complain about how it's not completely automated and still requires some action on my part.

With the programs I install, I found I needed a LOT more trial and error with UC to finally get it right, and it needed more of my attention when all was said and done.

Also, Sashimi can install apps to your storage card, instead of internal storage. Agreeably, this isn't huge, as you can just copy .ink files to your start menu, and restore registry keys, but, it's still nice to have. UC isn't able to do this.

No hard feelings, I'm just sharing what I have learned trying both, and which I prefer, and why... removing some of the research for other people.



I'll agree, renaming files for sashimi is a bit of a pain, but I just add 1-(cabname) and 2-(cabname) to those which are order-sensitive. This is one of the things I feel needs improvement.

Sashimi installs all .cab files first, then reg files, then copies the root files. There's also a synergy feature (my TP is messed up so I can't get to the documentation right now) that will install a .reg file and copy specific files at the same time a .cab is installed, it will even provision xml files at the same time. All that needed to be done was to name the files the same.

So, you have a synergy.cab in your \cab folder, and synergy.reg which you want to be installed with it, put both of them in the same folder - in this case, the \cab folder.

I just got my TP to boot and it's called "Tandem files and bundling" It will install the .cab, then the .reg, .xml or .mscr file that has the same name.
I agree Sashimi definitely has its pros as well. I didn't want to turn this into a UC vs. Sashimi comparison, I think it goes to show the OP that either way you go, it isn't too difficult to get it set up properly. Takes an hour, tops, of trial and error, and is a must if you flash more than once every month. Like I said orginally, 15 minutes of screwing with UC, and it has saved me hours of restoring things the way I like them after a flash. The cool part is, I am no longer worried about, "I don't want to deal with setting up all the stuff" when it comes to trying someone's new ROM. I flash it, UC runs, within 5 minutes of the download, I am back playing with the phone to see if I like the new rom. If I don't, I can move on to something else with nothing lost.
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

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At the same time, you could just dump all your .cab files into a single folder and run Sashimi... done deal, no need to create an SDconfig.txt or anything like that.

I haven't been too big a fan of sashimi in the past, but I like it better than UC. Lesser of two evils.
+1. Sashimi is pretty straightfoward. I haven't used it since the Mogul days when I had to load more apps, but it's a great app.
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ur def. right about the trail and error part lol. that was a ***** i remember the day i decided to figure uc out i must've flashed like 30 times that day!!

off topic: shadowdrake. is that u auto-x in your sig?
Yeah, it is... doesn't look like I'm moving though - that was a low speed corner, somewhere like 10-15 mph because it was so sharp (full steering lock)... and it just so happened to be the moment in time I was adding some power to bring about a little throttle-induced oversteer Ahhh that was a fun course, I spent the whole thing sideways.

And since I guess I need to contribute something to the thread, too -- I still have to go through my list of apps when I switch roms becuase some are specific to certain ROMs (like, back in the day... the sprint picturemail update wasn't required for early builds of Dream's ROM because it didn't have picture mail in the first place... something that had to be removed later when I tried a ROM that had it cooked in).
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

So I flash a new ROM, now I'm using Sashimi to reload all my cabs. I plan on then using CERegeditor to make an image of the registry then I will register all my programs and set the phone as I like it then I will rerun ceregeditor and compare the changes. I will port these changes over to sashimi and all should be good right? For my NEXT flashing

What about programs that don't write to the registry but possibly to a dll or other file within the program how will I know about those? Is there a program that looks for changed or added files?

is this a reasonable apporach?
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So I flash a new ROM, now I'm using Sashimi to reload all my cabs. I plan on then using CERegeditor to make an image of the registry then I will register all my programs and set the phone as I like it then I will rerun ceregeditor and compare the changes. I will port these changes over to sashimi and all should be good right? For my NEXT flashing

What about programs that don't write to the registry but possibly to a dll or other file within the program how will I know about those? Is there a program that looks for changed or added files?

is this a reasonable apporach?
The programs that change files are elusive sometimes, a lot of times you just have to search here and xda to find the file that they use to register the program. I do know with Resco Explorer and Backup 2008 the file is wmtrigger.dat in the Windows\ directory. That one took some digging on the web before I found an obscure thread at XDA about it
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

Guess I can't get too excited I flashed to a new rom and Sashimi would not run automatically. had to navigate to it and double click on file then tell it to autorun, then it told me it was done but did not provision email or install all programs. so I found the provision and then got email working but now I have to install all the programs manually first.

guess I'm not here YET!!
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Guess I can't get too excited I flashed to a new rom and Sashimi would not run automatically. had to navigate to it and double click on file then tell it to autorun, then it told me it was done but did not provision email or install all programs. so I found the provision and then got email working but now I have to install all the programs manually first.

guess I'm not here YET!!
LOL. That's what I was talking about with ROMs not being Sashimi compliant. Be patient though, you'll get there. Once you do, you will realize it was the best time you ever spent screwing with your phone because it makes flashing so much easier in the future!
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LOL. That's what I was talking about with ROMs not being Sashimi compliant. Be patient though, you'll get there. Once you do, you will realize it was the best time you ever spent screwing with your phone because it makes flashing so much easier in the future!
+1 take your time and do some reading. but trial and error will be your best classroom
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