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Old 04-02-2009, 03:58 PM
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EZ Automated UC ?

OK this may be better in a more ROM centered section but I thought I'd throw it out there and see.

I did a lot of research a few months back on doing UC restores with ROM flashing it seemed rather tedious with lots of unique code/scripts to write. there were a few programs to automate this process but they were still in their infancy and still a bit of work.

What is the current state of UC automation? I'd love to upgrade my current flashed ROM to one of the ones with the new TF2 manilla but I really like the way everything is set now. I don't mind doing it once more but I'd love to get it automated so I can hop on/off ROMS until I find one I like.

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Old 04-03-2009, 01:33 PM
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:44 PM
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

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Try this thread on SDConfig: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=59566

The wiki at XDA is also very useful: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...gename=AutoRun

It may seem a little overwhelming at first, but it is really pretty straightforward. Took me 15 minutes to get my SDConfig set up, saves me that much time, at least, everytime I flash my phone!

SD Config is also exceptionally powerful. I have it install all my programs, install the registry keys on apps that I paid for, set up my email, install security certificates for my exchange server, restore weather settings for TF3D and restore favorite program shortcuts on the programs tab.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:58 PM
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At the same time, you could just dump all your .cab files into a single folder and run Sashimi... done deal, no need to create an SDconfig.txt or anything like that.

I haven't been too big a fan of sashimi in the past, but I like it better than UC. Lesser of two evils.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:17 PM
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Re: EZ Automated UC ?

so, if you are not a fan of either what do you use? just reinstall everything every time?
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:31 PM
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so, if you are not a fan of either what do you use? just reinstall everything every time?
I use Sashimi, it can do everything that UC can... it's easier in some areas, a little more difficult in others.

To install a set of .cabs, you just put them in \Storage Card\SASHIMI\Auto\CAB

When Sashimi is run then, it will go through the list of .cab files in that folder, and install them - alphabetically. If certain programs require special prompts (like Skyfire, for example) the install will pause, allow you to choose any options you may need, and it will automatically continue. You also, if you so choose, can set it up to run through those options for you, so it never has to pause. I've found this is just a big hassle to set up though.

Sashimi can copy files. Again - \Storage Card\SASHIMI\Auto\Root\...

The root folder is essentially an image of your phone's root folder... so if you want a file called secret.txt in My Documents, after a resest, you would place a copy of the file in...

\Storage Card\SASHIMI\Auto\Root\My Documents\secret.txt

And it will be copied when sashimi is run. Sashimi can delete files as well (though, I'll admit this is easier in UC), and it can install .reg files automatically. It can use provxml files to set up things like e-mail accounts, and even has a program to generate the .xml files for you.

It's considerably better than UC... but I still feel as if many improvements could be made.

The whole UI could be re-worked to be much more smooth and fast - and more intuitive. Sashimi creates a bunch of junk entries in your start menu list, and it's just a hassle to make a file to have them removed. Also, once the auto install is done, it will give you 10 seconds to say yes to soft resetting, otherwise it defaults to NO. It would be nice to change a setting to have it default to yes, this way I can just have it run and take care of everything.
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At the same time, you could just dump all your .cab files into a single folder and run Sashimi... done deal, no need to create an SDconfig.txt or anything like that.

I haven't been too big a fan of sashimi in the past, but I like it better than UC. Lesser of two evils.
I don't know. I personally didn't like the fact that most ROMs aren't sashimi compliant, so it setup an SDConfig to install sashimi, rebooted and then ran sashimi. Then for the life of that flash, I always had sashimi installed on my phone. It just seemed easier to eliminate the middle man and do the SDConfig myself.

As for adding programs you picked up, I never found it a hassle to just type

CAB: Storage Card\Cab\whatever.cab at the end of my SDConfig file.

The other thing about SD Config I like is that I can control the order that things happen in, as opposed to haveing to rename files to work with Sashimi's alphabetical model. To me that was important as far as registry settings\tweaks that had to occur after a particular program was installed, as in the case of inputting serial numbers for me.
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if i find a new app thats not part of my current sdconfig.txt i wouldnt rerun the program to build another one, its as easy as adding a new line into the text file not that labor intensive at all. i personally dont rebuild my sdconfig.txt it more than once i simply just add to it or delete from it. we could go back and forth but it really comes down to user preference. both have their pros and cons
Yeah, that's what this is, I guess... I'm proving I'm too lazy to add one line to a text document, but at the same time, I will go and manually run sashimi each time Then take the time to complain about how it's not completely automated and still requires some action on my part.

With the programs I install, I found I needed a LOT more trial and error with UC to finally get it right, and it needed more of my attention when all was said and done.

Also, Sashimi can install apps to your storage card, instead of internal storage. Agreeably, this isn't huge, as you can just copy .ink files to your start menu, and restore registry keys, but, it's still nice to have. UC isn't able to do this.

No hard feelings, I'm just sharing what I have learned trying both, and which I prefer, and why... removing some of the research for other people.

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I don't know. I personally didn't like the fact that most ROMs aren't sashimi compliant, so it setup an SDConfig to install sashimi, rebooted and then ran sashimi. Then for the life of that flash, I always had sashimi installed on my phone. It just seemed easier to eliminate the middle man and do the SDConfig myself.

As for adding programs you picked up, I never found it a hassle to just type

CAB: Storage Card\Cab\whatever.cab at the end of my SDConfig file.

The other thing about SD Config I like is that I can control the order that things happen in, as opposed to haveing to rename files to work with Sashimi's alphabetical model. To me that was important as far as registry settings\tweaks that had to occur after a particular program was installed, as in the case of inputting serial numbers for me.
I'll agree, renaming files for sashimi is a bit of a pain, but I just add 1-(cabname) and 2-(cabname) to those which are order-sensitive. This is one of the things I feel needs improvement.

Sashimi installs all .cab files first, then reg files, then copies the root files. There's also a synergy feature (my TP is messed up so I can't get to the documentation right now) that will install a .reg file and copy specific files at the same time a .cab is installed, it will even provision xml files at the same time. All that needed to be done was to name the files the same.

So, you have a synergy.cab in your \cab folder, and synergy.reg which you want to be installed with it, put both of them in the same folder - in this case, the \cab folder.

I just got my TP to boot and it's called "Tandem files and bundling" It will install the .cab, then the .reg, .xml or .mscr file that has the same name.
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Yeah, that's what this is, I guess... I'm proving I'm too lazy to add one line to a text document, but at the same time, I will go and manually run sashimi each time Then take the time to complain about how it's not completely automated and still requires some action on my part.

With the programs I install, I found I needed a LOT more trial and error with UC to finally get it right, and it needed more of my attention when all was said and done.

Also, Sashimi can install apps to your storage card, instead of internal storage. Agreeably, this isn't huge, as you can just copy .ink files to your start menu, and restore registry keys, but, it's still nice to have. UC isn't able to do this.

No hard feelings, I'm just sharing what I have learned trying both, and which I prefer, and why... removing some of the research for other people.



I'll agree, renaming files for sashimi is a bit of a pain, but I just add 1-(cabname) and 2-(cabname) to those which are order-sensitive. This is one of the things I feel needs improvement.

Sashimi installs all .cab files first, then reg files, then copies the root files. There's also a synergy feature (my TP is messed up so I can't get to the documentation right now) that will install a .reg file and copy specific files at the same time a .cab is installed, it will even provision xml files at the same time. All that needed to be done was to name the files the same.

So, you have a synergy.cab in your \cab folder, and synergy.reg which you want to be installed with it, put both of them in the same folder - in this case, the \cab folder.

I just got my TP to boot and it's called "Tandem files and bundling" It will install the .cab, then the .reg, .xml or .mscr file that has the same name.
I agree Sashimi definitely has its pros as well. I didn't want to turn this into a UC vs. Sashimi comparison, I think it goes to show the OP that either way you go, it isn't too difficult to get it set up properly. Takes an hour, tops, of trial and error, and is a must if you flash more than once every month. Like I said orginally, 15 minutes of screwing with UC, and it has saved me hours of restoring things the way I like them after a flash. The cool part is, I am no longer worried about, "I don't want to deal with setting up all the stuff" when it comes to trying someone's new ROM. I flash it, UC runs, within 5 minutes of the download, I am back playing with the phone to see if I like the new rom. If I don't, I can move on to something else with nothing lost.
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At the same time, you could just dump all your .cab files into a single folder and run Sashimi... done deal, no need to create an SDconfig.txt or anything like that.

I haven't been too big a fan of sashimi in the past, but I like it better than UC. Lesser of two evils.
+1. Sashimi is pretty straightfoward. I haven't used it since the Mogul days when I had to load more apps, but it's a great app.
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