From Verizon Touch Pro to Sprint version... is it really that much better? - Page 3

zim2323 · #21 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 02:26 PM

Sorry, I meant to say the same. GREAT POST. I think the author went out of his way to be unbiased. I didn't mean for my post to come across that it wasn't, and looking back I think I would have taken as such if I was him. Apologies.

bast525 · #22 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 07:49 PM

I know 110% for a fact that this phone was brand new. I basically watched him open it. It came in the fancy Sprint box with all the accessories still wrapped in plastic.

Also, you can see a systems hours of run time when you run EPST, and unless they reset that when they refurb it, it accurately showed just over an hour when I was in EPST hacking it for VZW.

Another also, another of my friends/coworkers also has the Sprint TP, first was running Juicy 4.7 but now is running the Silence or Silent Rom, we have done side-by-side comparisons and his phone is not any faster.

For those who just don't want to beleive it is possible, I dont know what else to say. I am being as unbiased as can be... remember, I laid out my money to buy a Sprint TP, even thoug I already own a VZW TP, because I too was convinced the Sprint would be faster. For anyone else who is considering doing this same "trade" I fully encourage you to do so (the monetary risk is low, I already have two interested buyers willing to pay what I paid) and try them side by side in a fair way (obviously a completely different ROM or OS Build is not apples to apples), and make your own decision. You will probably still take the Sprint just for the better looks and keyboard, but you will at least see for yourself that there is no big discrepancy in performance.

**jmorton10** · #23 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zim2323

I have personally ran my SSK1.5 ROM VZW Touch Pro next to Sprint's Touch Pro in the store, and the Sprint Touch Pro was incredibly fast. Screen switching, program loading, and many other activities were much quicker, side-by-side.

You're claiming a STOCK ROM Sprint TP was faster than the VZ TP with scrosler's ROM?

~John

gnatsstang · #24 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

sprint TP DOES NOT come with a spare battery

mine did.

bast525 · #25 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 10:43 PM

jmorton - that's what *I* was wondering. Stock to stock the Sprint seemed a little faster, but both were slow on the stock ROM. VZW on SSK 1.5 vs. Stock Sprint Pro, the SSK phone is TREMENDOUSLY faster.

That's not the first piece of misinfo that's been posted in this thread.....

**slypher** · #26 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by crazychef

sprint TP DOES NOT come with a spare battery

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Originally Posted by gnatsstang

mine did.

LOL!!

-s

zim2323 · #27 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jmorton10

You're claiming a STOCK ROM Sprint TP was faster than the VZ TP with scrosler's ROM?

~John

Yes, MUCH faster. My friend was there with me and saw them side-by-side.

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Originally Posted by bast525

jmorton - that's what *I* was wondering. Stock to stock the Sprint seemed a little faster, but both were slow on the stock ROM. VZW on SSK 1.5 vs. Stock Sprint Pro, the SSK phone is TREMENDOUSLY faster.

That's not the first piece of misinfo that's been posted in this thread.....

Not in my case. Sorry. Scott's ROM just keeps my phone from being as painful as it obviously could be.

Is there a chance there's something wrong with my phone?

I have since loaded up applications and it's not any slower with 10 things running then it is 1 (TF3D), BUT it is slower then the stock Sprint.

What I've noticed with my WinMo phones from the Mogul to the Touch Pro is that as soon as I go below 20mb free space, my phone immediately becomes a paperweight. It is extremely sluggish. As soon as I do a CleanRAM and get free RAM above 20mb it's fine.

I have debated disabling TF3D altogether and just using the standard interface. I don't really care for TF3D. For us command line users, TF3D is nothing more then "Apple iPhone" feel good BS. It does something slower that I already know how to do quicker. Disabling that frees up somewhere around 20mb of RAM.

bast525 · #28 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zim2323

Yes, MUCH faster. My friend was there with me and saw them side-by-side.

Not in my case. Sorry. Scott's ROM just keeps my phone from being as painful as it obviously could be.

Is there a chance there's something wrong with my phone?

I have since loaded up applications and it's not any slower with 10 things running then it is 1 (TF3D), BUT it is slower then the stock Sprint.

What I've noticed with my WinMo phones from the Mogul to the Touch Pro is that as soon as I go below 20mb free space, my phone immediately becomes a paperweight. It is extremely sluggish. As soon as I do a CleanRAM and get free RAM above 20mb it's fine.

I have debated disabling TF3D altogether and just using the standard interface. I don't really care for TF3D. For us command line users, TF3D is nothing more then "Apple iPhone" feel good BS. It does something slower that I already know how to do quicker. Disabling that frees up somewhere around 20mb of RAM.

Okay, good test that I just did with the Sprint phone on the stock ROM, and my VZW pro on SSK 1.5 running a custom built 20954 ROM. Go into File Explorer and click on the Windows folder:

Stock Sprint ROM: about 4 seconds to open

VZW with SSK: About 1.5 seconds to open

Screen rotation:

Sprint and Verizon both go into Landscape about equally quickly, but switching back into Portrait, VZW goes in about 1.5 seconds, Sprint takes about 3 seconds.

Still got both phones sitting right here, Sprint is back to stock because I was going to be selling it today, I can do any other tests you guys would like me to do *shrug*

**freeza** · #29 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 02:26 PM

Is your File Explorer set to show all files on both phones? I have never once had the Windows folder open up in 1.5 seconds no matter what settings I used or what PagePool.

Even on the WM6 Emulator for Windows it takes a second or two to open, and that's using an Intel CPU clocked at 3.6 GHz.

bast525 · #30 (**permalink**) 03-17-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by freeza

Is your File Explorer set to show all files on both phones? I have never once had the Windows folder open up in 1.5 seconds no matter what settings I used or what PagePool.

Even on the WM6 Emulator for Windows it takes a second or two to open, and that's using an Intel CPU clocked at 3.6 GHz.

Yes "Show All Files" is checked. This is one of the benefits of the SSK 1.5 ROMS using FormerPalmOS's tweaked XIP. If you download that kitchen, builds 21109, 20954, and 21015 all have the tweaked XIP, I believe. And they all load the Windows folder with "Show All Files" checked, incredibly fast, usually 1 or 2 seconds.

This was one of the things that pissed off my friend with the Sprint Pro running the Juicy ROM, he was bragging how much faster it was, until I showed him that