From Verizon Touch Pro to Sprint version... is it really that much better? - Page 2

bast525 · #11 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 02:11 AM

Man... lots of hate I see. I wonder how many people who throw around terms like "gimped" and "garbage" have actually spent real time with both phones to see if there is this huge disparity in performance that everyone expects?

At any rate, been running it for a few hours witha 24 MB page pool up from 16 and honestly see no difference.

I might have to see if I cant get some video of the two side by side doing some common tasks to show there is no real speed difference....

**Deimoss** · #12 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 02:38 AM

First, let's talk about what you get for your hard earned $$$... Verizon loses major points for being CHEAP BASTARDS!!!

VZW Pro comes with:
Phone
Battery
2 x Stylus
Charger
Attachment for connecting headphones
Books, CD's blah blah

Sprint Pro comes with:
Phone
2 x Battery
2 x Stylus
Charger
Suede carrying case with belt clip
Headphones with micro USB connector and build in mic
1 GB Micro SD memory card
Attachment for connecting regular headphones
Nicer looking and more abundant documents/books, the software CD blah blah...

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That'd be the best deal ever if we got (2x)two batteries with the Touch Pro, Eliminating thousands upons thousands of gripes

Might want to edit the original post for validity

bast525 · #13 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 01:21 PM

I asked him again if he bought the spare battery separately, he said no, sprint gave it TP him free. I did neglect TP mention the sprint also came with a screen protector.

gbm85 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 04:32 PM

It is rather eye-opening to hear anecdotal evidence that the Verizon version is not really worse than the Sprint version overall. One thing I can guess is that the Verizon version would have better battery life since RAM refreshes would not use as much energy with the lower amount of RAM. How much better I'm not sure.

All things (performance-wise) being equal, I still like the looks of the Sprint version hands-down. However, if I were on Verizon, I doubt I would go to the trouble of hacking a Sprint TP to go on the VZW network.

PV2Omni · #15 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 06:21 PM

I just wanted to put my two cents in .....

I owned both the Verizon TP and the Sprint TP for 30 days straight (the limit you can keep the phone and still return it). Using both ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. I tried to do everything that I could think of including things that I may NEVER actually do/use in regular use. I have to say that overall the Sprint had a very slight performance boost over the Verizon ...... About 5-10%. I also noticed that the Sprint seemed to install things that the Verizon wouldn't/couldn't.

Obviously the keyboard is a personal choice. Even if you negate the M key, I found it MUCH easier to switch between my computer keyboard and the TP, because it's almost identical with the tab, caps, shift, etc. Heck, even the ? the - and the + are in the right place! I'm one of those FEW GUYS that actually use punctuation and symbols regularly, so I found it EXTREMELY annoying on the Verizon. I believe that he may have gotten a bad speaker since both of my earpieces and speakers acted identically. Towards the last days I put SRS WOW on and haven't looked back!

I also found it VERY STRANGE that I would run the exact same programs on both phones and the Sprint used LESS memory than the Verizon. Unlike the Verizon that I could easily load to 80-90% memory I can't seem to get over 45% on the Sprint.

The rest is up to personal preference. I really like the look of the Sprint, but I REALLY like the feel of the Sprint vs the Verizon. As far as it tearing up and looking bad I can't say anything to that, because I ALWAYS us screen protection and on this phone I used the Best Skin Ever. I like it because it also protects the lower keys. On top of that I use a Plastic Case/Cover. I usually buy a "rubberized" case, but this time I tried something different. I have always hated that the "rubberized" coating came off rather quickly. This time I bought a plain plastic case and I went to Home Depot and bought a spray can of black Performix PlastiDip. It took some time and I had to do it right, but after about 6 layers I got the best "rubberized" case that I've EVER had! You might just want to give it a try yourselves.

XV6700Dummy · #16 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 07:21 PM

I read this and I am confused what actual "kitchen" you used to flash your phones. Did you use Build OS or the Crossler's 'simple kitchen"?

Is Build OS a kitchen? Is HyperCore a kitchen? is WM 6.5 Beta Rom Kitchen a kitchen? Do I need a BuildOS to use Crossler's "simple kitchen"?

Are there other "kitchens" which will truly allow me to flash my own TP smoothly without any grief?

sure sure sure, I can go search some more but it's really rough wading thru hours and hours of conflicting, not concise, irrelevant, and downright confusing posts.

If I were masterful on the subject of any one of these phones

I would likely consider weeding out all the gems and doing a very organized TP FAQ and perhaps show some of the how to's in a very organized valley forge tree type scientific method...

case and point.... just today somebody had to make a new post asking how to hard reset his phone

frankly, I gave up trying search that subject here and wading thru all the different ways for my TP and became apathetic because I haven't really needed to do so.

Oh, can anyone answer my post about what to do with a missing registry entry?

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=61048

it seems my question about the registry entry is far too daft to garner an answer!

bast525 · #17 (**permalink**) 03-15-2009, 09:30 PM

I will say a couple more things.

Comparing them completely stock, stock rom, the Sprint did have a bit better performance. But once flashed with a custom ROM, testing them literally side by side, they performed the same. Other than the Sprint having more free RAM, there was no difference. I've had the Sprint at a 24 MB page pool all day now, and still I see no difference.

But yeah, looks wise I way prefer the Sprint. As I mentioned in my original post, I really wanted the Sprint Pro over the Verizon, and would keep it were it not for a) the far worse sound, b) the noticeably less sensitive touch screen. I fully expect that these are one-off issues, not something that every Sprint Pro would have. I am not in any way implying that the Verizon is the better phone. I just wanted to share my experience, in that I was kind of surprised even, that the Sprint did not perform any better. I probably would have liked the Sprint keyboard more had I not already been used to the VZW.

Since the Sprint Pro would not be covered under my insurance, and I have no idea how I might go about getting it replaced under warranty since I am not with Sprint, I am going to keep the VZW TP and sell the Sprint one. The loss of Asurion coverage is another big factor in deciding that keeping the VZW would work better for me. I've never lost or broken a phone, I'd hate for the first time to be with something as expensive as the Pro and to have no insurance.

zim2323 · #18 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bast525

I will say a couple more things.

Comparing them completely stock, stock rom, the Sprint did have a bit better performance. But once flashed with a custom ROM, testing them literally side by side, they performed the same. Other than the Sprint having more free RAM, there was no difference. I've had the Sprint at a 24 MB page pool all day now, and still I see no difference.

But yeah, looks wise I way prefer the Sprint. As I mentioned in my original post, I really wanted the Sprint Pro over the Verizon, and would keep it were it not for a) the far worse sound, b) the noticeably less sensitive touch screen. I fully expect that these are one-off issues, not something that every Sprint Pro would have. I am not in any way implying that the Verizon is the better phone. I just wanted to share my experience, in that I was kind of surprised even, that the Sprint did not perform any better. I probably would have liked the Sprint keyboard more had I not already been used to the VZW.

Since the Sprint Pro would not be covered under my insurance, and I have no idea how I might go about getting it replaced under warranty since I am not with Sprint, I am going to keep the VZW TP and sell the Sprint one. The loss of Asurion coverage is another big factor in deciding that keeping the VZW would work better for me. I've never lost or broken a phone, I'd hate for the first time to be with something as expensive as the Pro and to have no insurance.

To the Sprint phone situation, I would guess your "friend" isn't being completely honest with you. I would guess the phone is a refurb and the extra battery was from the original phone. I noticed the same thing with phones I've had to insure. They don't want the old battery back therefore you have an extra battery. I hope you really didn't pay much for it. It probably wasn't as good of a deal as you thought with all the things you are saying is wrong with the phone.

If the above is true, I would discount ANY performance tests you've done until you know you have a truly good working phone.

I have personally ran my SSK1.5 ROM VZW Touch Pro next to Sprint's Touch Pro in the store, and the Sprint Touch Pro was incredibly fast. Screen switching, program loading, and many other activities were much quicker, side-by-side.

**jmorton10** · #19 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zim2323

To the Sprint phone situation, I would guess your "friend" isn't being completely honest with you. I would guess the phone is a refurb and the extra battery was from the original phone.

I was thinking the same thing.

I have three Sprint TP's that I converted to Verizon service & not one of them came with an extra battery.

~John

**jmorton10** · #20 (**permalink**) 03-16-2009, 02:14 PM

By the way, this is a great post. I have the Sprint TP's just because I like them better, but I have a co-worker with a VZ TP & it's just as fast as any Sprint phone.

When we run them side by side, the speed is almost identical (his is running SSK 1.5, mine is running Mighty)

~John