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djfujiyama 01-27-2009 01:41 AM

What's the best backup program?
 
Looking for a way to backup/restore text messages, contacts, call logs, text messaging "my text" presets, and calendar appts.

I've used SPB backup and sprite backup in the past, but that was over a year ago and on a different device. What's the recommended backup app for the TP?

stanglifemike 01-27-2009 02:02 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Sprite Backup works very well http://www.spritesoftware.com/

ou2mame 01-27-2009 05:00 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
i use sprite.. no complaints.

Bishop942 01-27-2009 05:34 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
For the stuff you are naming PIMbackup will do nicely. Sprite is great for backing up your whole device. But PIMbackup will work excellently for what your trying to. Smaller file sizes too


hit that thanks over there will ya

avgas 01-27-2009 06:03 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
+1

PIMbackup for contacts, msgs, email, call logs, appointments

darren.wlsn1 01-27-2009 08:11 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
i just used the htc backup app. full system and worked very well. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54193

jmorton10 01-27-2009 08:20 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
I use SPB BU exclusively (& I own Sprite also), but the free PIM backup is all that's really needed in this case.

~John

z28marols1 01-27-2009 09:27 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
I use PIM backup on a regular basis, have done several restores with it after hard resets, even to transfer my info to a new device. works awesome! especially for a free app. I have spb backup now too for the whole device. have not tried to restore from it yet as i have not had to hard reset my device for a while now ;-)

HBOOT 01-27-2009 09:36 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Dont discount Resco back up fellas, dazzz sum good isht:mrgreen:

jmorton10 01-27-2009 10:30 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 670166)
Dont discount Resco back up fellas, dazzz sum good isht:mrgreen:

Yea, that looks like it would be good too.

Have you done full restores from it??

~John

Genjinaro 01-27-2009 10:32 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanglifemike (Post 669856)
Sprite Backup works very well http://www.spritesoftware.com/

Doesn't get any better than this. Sprite is the way to go.

HBOOT 01-27-2009 11:43 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
It actually does get better:
http://www.mytodayscreen.com/the-bac...-will-triumph/

jmorton10 01-27-2009 01:01 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
I am going to do an interesting test for the next few days. I have the full versions of both SPB & Sprite.

A guy I work with is buying a new TP & wants me to tweak the hell out of it (& also put it on Verizon service for him)

I told him fine, as long as I can play with his new phone & try out a few things on it first. He doesn't care, so I bought him a brand new TP from ebay (it will be here today). I will BU my current totally loaded/tweaked Sprint TP running on vz with both SPB & Sprite & then try restoring those BU's to the new TP after flashing to various ROM's.

I will post results here.

~John

Scrotum 01-27-2009 01:19 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
I use the SKtools backup, and it looks like I'm the only one. I have used this exclusively for nearly two years after having problems when doing a backup from SPB after loading a new ROM. With Sktools I have my auto backup scheduled to go every week, if I end up changing ROM during the week I can use the backup file and chose to load only the PIM info, this way I dont have to have a seperate program for this.

cal_j 01-27-2009 01:24 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
+1 for PIMBackup. Works great for me

dschoenike 01-27-2009 01:30 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
My vote goes to spb backup. I've used it for a year or so, and it's worked perfectly. I do have a question about backups though. Is there anything i could do to my phone, aside from flashing a different rom, that would cause a backup to not restore correctly? I mean ive always felt safe to tinker after doing a back up, but i'm wondering if there's an exception that would cause a problem. Sorry for veering a lil off topic.
dschoenike

pdoc01 01-27-2009 01:57 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
+1 for Sprite Backup

jmorton10 01-27-2009 02:22 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrotum (Post 670611)
I use the SKtools backup, .

You know, I have SK but have never used the BU feature. I think I will try that out myself.

~John

HBOOT 01-27-2009 02:22 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
You good DS, as a precaution have a backup in your pc/laptop. I use all three software Resco,Sprite and spb, they are all life savers and I was able to restore wirh all of them with very minor hick ups like email set up was a bit messed up or something like that.
As of now I am ranking Resco as number one due to the fact that it is light, allows you to just update your back up insteasd of doing a full one.
Javier dude uses Sktool backup , he is most likely luring around..lol.
Mr. Morton, why dont u throw Resco into the mix??? btw did u ever get a pm, gallee I asked u last week:mrgreen:

rwheeler 01-27-2009 02:24 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
PIM its located in your device memory

jmorton10 01-27-2009 02:25 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 670794)
Mr. Morton, why dont u throw Resco into the mix??? btw did u ever get a pm, gallee I asked u last week:mrgreen:

I'll do that. Sorry about the PM, I don't think I got it. I just checked my PM's & I don't have any that are unread??

~John

pask2155 01-27-2009 03:15 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
does anyone have any cabs for these or do you have to buy them all?

HBOOT 01-27-2009 03:23 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
U can have all of them free for 7 days..:mrgreen:

Scrotum 01-27-2009 03:46 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 670793)
You know, I have SK but have never used the BU feature. I think I will try that out myself.

~John

I think you'll like it. Another benefit of this, is that you can use the backup program with the demo, and it is not restricted to a time limit, but will only allow you to view 6 backup files. If you delete the old files then this would allow you to have an unlimited time with the program, you also have full use of the free up ram feature with the demo.

apinkel 01-27-2009 05:06 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Is there any kind of image based backup (similar to Ghost or True image on the PC)?

I just did a hard-reset of my phone and I did all my setup stuff to it... I'd love to be able to save this off as a stable baseline that I could quickly reload (in case I jack up my TP with some funky software).

HBOOT 01-27-2009 05:23 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
DUDE , all the apps in this thread will back ever single data of you ppc, try them out and make your selection..
Resco backup
Spb abck up
Sprite
Sktool
You can always get back where you were b4 you phuk up your TP ,LOL:mrgreen:

mrfett79 01-27-2009 06:30 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Just thought everyone would like to know that Sprite backup has a special for HTC devices. You get both Sprite backup & Sprite Terminator for $19.99. Not a bad deal. I have not done much with each one but I do have them installed and did a backup of my phone. The backup seems to be good as I went and looked at the files and everything seems to be there. I have not restored the phone so I cannot vouch for the restore. Sprite Terminator seems like a good program and you basically get it free. If you are looking for a backup and security package this is definately one to look at. Here is the link
http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=282

JAVIERBOND007 01-27-2009 06:32 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
SKTOOLS works great for me...

Genjinaro 01-27-2009 07:13 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfett79 (Post 671532)
Just thought everyone would like to know that Sprite backup has a special for HTC devices. You get both Sprite backup & Sprite Terminator for $19.99. Not a bad deal. I have not done much with each one but I do have them installed and did a backup of my phone. The backup seems to be good as I went and looked at the files and everything seems to be there. I have not restored the phone so I cannot vouch for the restore. Sprite Terminator seems like a good program and you basically get it free. If you are looking for a backup and security package this is definately one to look at. Here is the link
http://www.spritesoftware.com/?page_id=282

I'll admit that the bundled Terminator was a huge sway factor for me when I ws looking for a back-up mgr many months ago.

apinkel 01-27-2009 07:45 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 671343)
DUDE , all the apps in this thread will back ever single data of you ppc, try them out and make your selection..
Resco backup
Spb abck up
Sprite
Sktool
You can always get back where you were b4 you phuk up your TP ,LOL:mrgreen:

So they backup the registry, the installed programs, etc. (not just the data)?

HBOOT 01-27-2009 08:22 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
all dude all everything todo tout .nomsayin...lol

jmorton10 01-28-2009 02:13 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
OK. I did a bunch of testing last night, I ran out of time but I got some really surprising results.

I got the new TP yesterday & immediately unlocked it (as soon as I made sure it worked). As I've stated, I have both SPB BU & Sprite. After using both in the past, I always preferred SPB & lately I didn't even have Sprite installed. Since I wanted to test both however, I downloaded & installed the latest version of Sprite on my current LOADED TP. This was a newer version than I had used in the past.

I am a VZ customer & previous to this I used a couple xv6800's that I used to reflash constantly. I did this first to enable the GPS & later to speed them up & get around the low memory problems. I had SPB BU files that I would restore after a flash. These BU files where FULLY loaded with apps & SPB always restored them perfectly.

Now, I am running a Sprint TP that I flashed to the leaked VZ ROM & activated on VZ & it runs fantastic. The GPS & everything else works perfectly & it is very fast with virtually no TF3D lag etc etc

I like to make full all around use of my systems & I use GPS with a bunch of different apps/Sirius radio/Slingbox Mobile w-200 cable TV channels/SMS-Chat W-TouchPal/five different email accounts/ripped DVD movies to a 16 gig card/over 300 mp3 music files etc etc etc etc etc

I have every cool app & tweak I can think of & I'm not about to reinstall all this stuff after a ROM flash & that's why SPB has always worked so well for me.

Last night, I made BU files from my current TP 10 minutes apart from both SPB & Sprite so they should be virtually identical (I immediately noticed Sprite takes a LOT longer). I started flashing different ROM's to the brand new TP & then restoring the SPB BU file. I used the SPB file first because that is what I'm more familiar with & it has never failed me.

Much to my surprise, the restores did not work well AT ALL. SPB comes up in the "upgrade ROM" restore mode by default unless you have made no changes but the only significant changes you can make are to "overwrite all files" or not. I tried it both ways just out of curiosity. My current system has modified TF3D files (doesn't everybody??) & in NOT ONE of the SPB restores would TF3D run properly. TF3D was either all messed up, or got stuck in an endless "click here to load TF3D" loop & refused to load at all.

I couldn't believe it, I must have done 10 restores in a row & every single one failed in one way or another.

At that point, I was running short on time but decided to do one more for the night & flashed the phone to one of scott scrosler's ROM's & then tried out the Sprite BU. Sprite gives you more options to choose from on restore which is a little confusing so I read the help file (novel idea there). The help told me if it was a different physical device with a different ROM, on restore use merge option 2 so that's what I did.

I was amazed on the first boot this time. Not only did TF3D load just fine, except for one detail it looked absolutely perfect. I do not use the HTC task manager as I prefer Wisbar Adv3 & its cascading start menu + the million other options it has & I noticed WB wasn't running (it auto loads on startup). When I clicked in WB, I got a dll error so that needs to be reinstalled, but other than that I couldn't find a single thing that didn't work & work right.

That was the end of the testing last night, but back at it tonight. Stay tuned for more results.

~John

darnell 01-28-2009 02:25 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Sprite backup is doing good for me. Even when moving to a new replacement Touch Pro, flawless restore.

Hbenz2008, I gave Resco Backup a try, but noticed it threw up some errors when trying to backup some files, is that normal?

z28marols1 01-28-2009 02:44 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
i just used spb to restore on my TP as i installed a theme and some mods that made my TP vomit. brought me back to my restore point perfectly, exactly the way i left it. +1 for spb bu. (keep in mind i am NOT comparing to sprite, have never used it)

jmorton10 01-28-2009 02:49 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z28marols1 (Post 673679)
i just used spb to restore on my TP as i installed a theme and some mods that made my TP vomit. brought me back to my restore point perfectly, exactly the way i left it. +1 for spb bu. (keep in mind i am NOT comparing to sprite, have never used it)

I'm not giving up on SPB yet, it has worked too well for too long for me to do that. I am certainly baffled by what it did to me last night however.

I don't know what went wrong, maybe the BU file was corrupted but it did say it completed successfully. I am going to BU my current system again & try the SPB option again tonight to see if I can figure out what's going on.

I know one thing, I used to swear that SPB was better than Sprite (I sure stated it on this forum enough times). I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong however & I was DEFINITELY wrong on this. Sprite just went WAY UP in my eyes..........

~John

HBOOT 01-29-2009 10:13 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Darnell:
Not really, I rarely get any error with Resco. You can actually click each error and try to remedy the conflict. Was that the first back up you did? or was it a back up update?

darnell 01-29-2009 11:03 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hbenz2008 (Post 675976)
Darnell:
Not really, I rarely get any error with Resco. You can actually click each error and try to remedy the conflict. Was that the first back up you did? or was it a back up update?

It was my first attempt at a backup using Resco. Feature wise, I would have rather kept Resco, I think Resco has the best features overall, but seeing the errors I didn't want to take any chances. So I went and tried Sprite, which is to me #2 in terms of features and worked fine, plus I had Sprite back when I had a Treo 800w. If not for the errors with Resco, I'd probably be using it now. When looking at the files Resco could not back up, it seemed nothing could be done about it and I had no clue what those files are used for or if they were not really needed.

I don't think any of the backup programs are bad, it just really depends on the features someone needs and if it test out OK for them. (Try before you buy ;) .)

jmorton10 01-29-2009 11:06 AM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darnell (Post 676059)
I went and tried Sprite, which is to me #2 in terms of features

What features is it missing??

~John

darnell 01-29-2009 12:47 PM

Some things Resco Backup has that Sprite and some other backup programs do not
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmorton10 (Post 676068)
What features is it missing??

~John

(If anything I've mentioned below is in Sprite backup, I have never seen it.)

Well, Resco has things such as incremental backups, which Hbenz2008 was asking about and I don't find that the concept of incremental backups exists at all in Sprite backup. (Incremental backups being a backup that provides updates for an already existing full backup file with changes made on the device since the previous backup.)

Resco also allows for a separate means to verify a backup file.

Resco allows to do a compare between a backup file and the device. To do things like see if the backup and the device are in 100% agreement or because of changes on the device if a new backup is nessesary.

Resco allows for comparing of 2 seperate backup files for differences.

Resco also has a means to track registry changes.

HBOOT 01-30-2009 08:22 PM

Re: What's the best backup program?
 
Right on Darnell, good job man


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