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clubprerit 12-24-2008 03:32 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
is there any way to decrease the lock time? i don't why it takes an average of 90 seconds to get a lock everytime.

lllboredlll 12-24-2008 04:04 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by clubprerit (Post 598681)
is there any way to decrease the lock time? i don't why it takes an average of 90 seconds to get a lock everytime.


Try GC's AGPS Fix. In post 1 you will find all the required info. Make sure you install the GC AGPS cab when you are done in QPST. I got alot of emails on this topic and 8 out of 10 times they forgot the cab install at the end. Not saying you did, just make sure you do :)

petewill 12-24-2008 09:50 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
ok maybe this is a stupid question but I read everything and I couldn't find the answer so I'm going to ask it...

Can I just install GC's AGPS cab to get AGPS working or do I need to go through all the steps on page one? It kinda seems like those are just to change the banner. Since there is a cab to do that do I still need to go through them all?

mikeo1313 12-24-2008 10:47 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Though these may be trivial questions they do entail how exact the instructions must be followed:


1. download lllboredlll VZW GPS Fix.cab and put on your storage card

***
?Can't we just use a temp folder? <my card is due to arrive in mail>



3. use gsfinder or total commander to navigate to \windows\ppst.exe

***
?for some odd reason will the WM6.1 file explorer not suffice or crash for proper completion of this task?




2,4,5,6 are direct

lllboredlll 12-24-2008 10:57 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeo1313 (Post 599401)
Though these may be trivial questions they do entail how exact the instructions must be followed:


1. download lllboredlll VZW GPS Fix.cab and put on your storage card

***
?Can't we just use a temp folder? <my card is due to arrive in mail>



3. use gsfinder or total commander to navigate to \windows\ppst.exe

***
?for some odd reason will the WM6.1 file explorer not suffice or crash for proper completion of this task?




2,4,5,6 are direct

yes temp is fine....not sure if file explorer can see PPST.exe if it can then more power to ya on that one....whatever works for ya :)

lllboredlll 12-24-2008 10:59 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petewill (Post 599333)
ok maybe this is a stupid question but I read everything and I couldn't find the answer so I'm going to ask it...

Can I just install GC's AGPS cab to get AGPS working or do I need to go through all the steps on page one? It kinda seems like those are just to change the banner. Since there is a cab to do that do I still need to go through them all?


Yes I brought up AGPS because if you are in QPST it would only make sense to apply AGPS while you were in there. If "Sprint" don't bother you then leave it be. That was for those it bothered. The cab won't work without the QPST setup applied first. AGPS is a 2 step installation process.

niteriderxp 12-24-2008 11:13 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Has anyone tried flashing a Sprint Radio on a stock VZW to see if that will enable aGPS?

mongoose0318 12-24-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
That is a very good question about the sprint radio. I am using a telus radio, did the qpst changes, installed the gc cab, and made sure location was on and do not seem to be getting agps. With my mogul, I had extremely fast connections and could get gps in all rooms of my house without any problems. Even with the above steps my touch pro does not get signal as fast and doesn't get any signal in the rooms the mogul did. If I haven't used the gps say overnight, i have to start up the htc program and wait around 1 minute or so to get a lock. After that, it locks in about 10-15 seconds but not in places the mogul would lock.

bsepub 12-24-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by niteriderxp (Post 599435)
Has anyone tried flashing a Sprint Radio on a stock VZW to see if that will enable aGPS?

Bored did those steps first... see this thread from last week:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=48256

mongoose0318 12-24-2008 11:59 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
That mentions flashing different radios trying to get gps to work prior to the bored cab. For the people that already installed the bored cab and agps steps that seem to have agps working, what radio are you using? what about people who did all the steps but don't think agps is working?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 12:01 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
It's requires a program to call for it to function. Whether it be thru a driver or a dll, something has to tell WM to connect to the IP and retrieve the information. The radio enables AGPS thru the fix GC developed but WM has to interface from that point on.

mongoose0318 12-25-2008 12:07 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
thanks for the information, that explains what could be happening. Does the program to call it exist or is that driver dependent (and do we know the driver) or unknown at this point?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 12:14 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoose0318 (Post 599523)
thanks for the information, that explains what could be happening. Does the program to call it exist or is that driver dependent (and do we know the driver) or unknown at this point?


lol if I knew at this point I would of let yall know. I might be able to look into it tomorrow night. Tonight I made a quick reg key import from my Titan but that didn't work. Once again VZW has something screwy going on.

kyle4269 12-25-2008 12:37 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Hey bored, how is Phase II going? Can you give us any info on it?

niteriderxp 12-25-2008 02:36 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 599511)
It's requires a program to call for it to function. Whether it be thru a driver or a dll, something has to tell WM to connect to the IP and retrieve the information. The radio enables AGPS thru the fix GC developed but WM has to interface from that point on.

Well GC's aGPS fix simply imports the SUPL AGPS registry values. However, if no application/driver is looking for those values and thus not acting on them, it won't really do anything.

Here is GC's aGPS fix's _setup.xml (there are no files, only registry values):
<!-- GC Verizon aGPS Provisioning -->

<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS">
<parm name="EnableAGPS" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="EnableGPSSmartMode" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="EnablePDEIPFromNV" datatype="integer" value="0"/>
<parm name="NumberFixes" datatype="integer" value="999999999"/>
<parm name="QoSAccuracy" datatype="integer" value="50"/>
<parm name="QosPerformance" datatype="integer" value="89"/>
<parm name="TimeBetweenFixes" datatype="integer" value="1"/>
<parm name="ServerIP" datatype="string" value="66.174.95.132"/>
<parm name="ServerPort" datatype="integer" value="8888"/>
<parm name="GPSMode" datatype="integer" value="2"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

<!-- End GC Verizon aGPS Provisioning -->

So here's some really good situations to consider:
Are Sprint TPs flashed to VZW ROMs able to use aGPS? If yes, that means that drivers included with the VZW ROM are aGPS capable. If not, then the ROM is missing something.
Are VZW TPs flashed with the Sprint Radio ROM and Bored's GPS fix (modded Sprint PRI) able to use aGPS. If yes, that means that the VZW radio is incapable of aGPS while the Sprint Radio is.

Weapondrift 12-25-2008 03:53 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
does this work at all with the motorola Q9m phone? I followed your instructions, and had to open port9 for anything to work properly, clicking on NMEA allowed full access. So, back to my initial question, iff I download the .cab for VZW nazigator would It potentially work?

n8mack33 12-25-2008 04:05 AM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n8mack33 (Post 597805)
I was wondering if this would have anything to do with messing up my data connection? I am using Scott's 3rd rom and the gps fix and everything was fine until I roadtripped to San Diego and I am not getting EVDO down here at all (eventhough I am in spots where I know I should be getting EVDO). EVDO was working in Nor Cal. Any ideas? I could really use help since ICS is unusable ATM. Thanks.

I wasn't able to fix this so I had to undo the gps fix which got the evdo back. I hope I don't have to choose between gps and evdo. Has anyone had similar issues or gotten this to work in San Diego without losing evdo? Any ideas why this would mess up the data connection or how to resolve it?

Kalnel 12-25-2008 12:33 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
FWIW, I installed the banner CAB, but I've noticed that when my phone first boots up, it still says Sprint. It reverts to saying Verizon very quickly, but I thought it was kind of interesting...

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 12:34 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalnel (Post 599975)
FWIW, I installed the banner CAB, but I've noticed that when my phone first boots up, it still says Sprint. It reverts to saying Verizon very quickly, but I thought it was kind of interesting...

The PRI that is installed is telling it to say Sprint. The fix you did overrides that.

scrosler 12-25-2008 12:56 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 599978)
The PRI that is installed is telling it to say Sprint. The fix you did overrides that.

Every time your radio changes state that will happen.

gc14 12-25-2008 01:13 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
The banner cab is simply a mortscript that runs at every boot that sets the proper registry key (which gets reset every soft reset) to change the banner. This is the only way to fix it unless you go back to a VZW PRI, which we all know will disable GPS. So what's happening is your device is booting and your banner is showing before the mortscript is run, just for a second, then the mortscript is run and it changes to the proper value.

MrNaPaLm32 12-25-2008 06:48 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
I gave up once I got to page 6, but has anyone had any luck with the stock rom?

I've followed all the directions and I'm still coming up with no locks, in google maps, and in HTC GPS tool.

Any ideas?

amescattle 12-25-2008 07:28 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
I tried to make this work w/ my verizon samsung omnia. I get the .cab installed and go to the ppst.exe to ulock the radio. and the message i get is
Radio unlock failed..??? Why... Need Help.. it was so close...

Has anyone got it to work w/ the omnia?

emmanuel.a.asselin 12-25-2008 07:30 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
I installed on my Touch Pro from Telus and it worked perfect! But I'm obviously getting the roaming sign... It wouldn't bother me that much, but because of that I need to do manual send/receive for my exchange server... It doesn't allow me to check the box to allow it to get items as they arrive while in roaming!! Does anyone now of anyway of fixing this on a TELUS Touch Pro (Either removing the roaming sign or enabling push e-mail while roaming)?!?

niteriderxp 12-25-2008 07:57 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amescattle (Post 600412)
I tried to make this work w/ my verizon samsung omnia. I get the .cab installed and go to the ppst.exe to ulock the radio. and the message i get is
Radio unlock failed..??? Why... Need Help.. it was so close...

Has anyone got it to work w/ the omnia?

This is only for the touch pro, trying to run this on the Samsung Omnia might damage it. I am pretty sure a PRI is specific to a phone's radio, which is what this hack is modifying.

cozmic 12-25-2008 09:56 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bnjcook (Post 596765)
When I open the QPST config and find the port is lists my phone as SURF7500a then an ESN number then phone number BUT IT IS NOT MY PHONE NUMBER THAT IS LISTED!!! Does that matter? I can still send/receive calls on the phone but it wigged me out that the phone number was not mine. Any thoughts/insights?


same here...just thought it was a quirk in qpst.
i got my phone straight from a verizon rep (handles the corporate account and is a verizon employee)
the gps is working fine nonetheless.

scrosler 12-25-2008 10:12 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuel.a.asselin (Post 600415)
I installed on my Touch Pro from Telus and it worked perfect! But I'm obviously getting the roaming sign... It wouldn't bother me that much, but because of that I need to do manual send/receive for my exchange server... It doesn't allow me to check the box to allow it to get items as they arrive while in roaming!! Does anyone now of anyway of fixing this on a TELUS Touch Pro (Either removing the roaming sign or enabling push e-mail while roaming)?!?

I thought Telus had unlocked GPS? This is Verizon specific I believe?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 10:32 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
:D enjoy post 1 everyone

lexluthor 12-25-2008 10:44 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 600566)
:D enjoy post 1 everyone

Great work.

Can you elaborate on any changes between phase I and phase II. In other words, if someone followed the phase I instructions, is there ANY reason to do phase II? Is there anything new or is the process just easier?

How would suggest someone who implemented phased I to "update" to phase II?

Also, in step 7, you mean to run ppst.exe and follow the prompts, right?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 10:47 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lexluthor (Post 600579)
Great work.

Can you elaborate on any changes between phase I and phase II. In other words, if someone followed the phase I instructions, is there ANY reason to do phase II? Is there anything new or is the process just easier?

How would suggest someone who implemented phased I to "update" to phase II?

I would suggest using the update. Yes there is differences. Like true programming capabilities. You should never have to worry with anything until VZW introduces a new PRI. I recoded their PRI to allow GPS. There Phase I Fix was a Sprint PRI being tricked so to speak.

Read post 1 all other needed info is there. It's a pretty simple installation. IF you follow the steps as they are presented.

emmanuel.a.asselin 12-25-2008 10:49 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scrosler (Post 600554)
I thought Telus had unlocked GPS? This is Verizon specific I believe?

Nope it's locked...! Just like on all of their SmartPhones... So, can anyone help me??? lol

lexluthor 12-25-2008 10:52 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Ok. I'll go with that. So I don't need to undo anything from phase I, re-doing phase II should take care of that?

What about the QPST settings I did for aGPS? Do you think I should reverse those now?

What's the code I had to use to put the phone into QPST programming mode? That's gone from post I.

So now, with this fix, we can *228 anytime and not have it mess things up?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 11:03 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lexluthor (Post 600591)
Ok. I'll go with that. So I don't need to undo anything from phase I, re-doing phase II should take care of that?

What about the QPST settings I did for aGPS? Do you think I should reverse those now?

What's the code I had to use to put the phone into QPST programming mode? That's gone from post I.

So now, with this fix, we can *228 anytime and not have it mess things up?

Just push foward with the update. Don't worry with QPST until AGPS is fixed and yes *228 is actually needed this time so please do :)

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 11:04 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuel.a.asselin (Post 600586)
Nope it's locked...! Just like on all of their SmartPhones... So, can anyone help me??? lol

If I can get ahold of the Telus PRI, I can most likely unlock it. We'll have to see though. As Verizon has proved time and time again, each carrier pulls different crap.

emmanuel.a.asselin 12-25-2008 11:30 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 600604)
If I can get ahold of the Telus PRI, I can most likely unlock it. We'll have to see though. As Verizon has proved time and time again, each carrier pulls different crap.

You want the stock PRI?? The one that comes in it when it's shipped??

Kolano 12-25-2008 11:36 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Has anyone tested if *22988 will work (i.e. the no prompt update), or if we must we use *228, option 1?

chuckz07 12-25-2008 11:39 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Ok, got Phase I fix to work with Scrosler's 3rd ROM. Early this morning flashed to a ROM I built with PPCKitchen, re-installed Phase I fix and NO GO on GPS. Not only would it not get a lock, it wouldn't even see any satellites. Flashed to Nex's ROM and same thing. Flashing back to Scrosler's ROM to see what happens. And yes, all settings double and triple checked!!!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I tried Phase II fix with Nex's ROM

Phase II installed and HTC GPS running with no luck so far. Any thoughts?

lllboredlll 12-25-2008 11:39 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuel.a.asselin (Post 600631)
You want the stock PRI?? The one that comes in it when it's shipped??

Yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolano (Post 600642)
Will *22988 work (i.e. the no prompt update), or must we use *228, option 1?

Yes it should work. You can be the first to find out if it's a must :)

emmanuel.a.asselin 12-25-2008 11:47 PM

Re: Verizon GPS Fix.....Phase I
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 600604)
If I can get ahold of the Telus PRI, I can most likely unlock it. We'll have to see though. As Verizon has proved time and time again, each carrier pulls different crap.

BTW The first version of the GPS fix worked great for the TELUS Touch Pro! Got a gps signal within 1-2 seconds... 5 seconds max on a cold start, that's as quick or even better than what I had on my previous p4000 (titan). The only problem was the roaming... I don't care for the roaming icon, it doesn't bother me and even if the sign is there you do not get billed for roaming and even then I don't care if I do! My only problem is that if I'm in roaming, my exchange server is not connected (need to do manual send/receive) and it's not possible on the touch pro to ask it to still be connected in roaming (the checkbox is there, but can't be selected...) Any solutions?????? Thanks!!

emmanuel.a.asselin 12-25-2008 11:52 PM

Re: 12/25/08 Verizon GPS Fix v2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lllboredlll (Post 600649)
Yes

Yes it should work. You can be the first to find out if it's a must :)

I'll get you the stock PRI tomorrow. I have 2 of each TELUS SmartPhones and always keep one 100% stock... If you need info out of any other TELUS SM let me know! I have most of them with me all the time (it's for my job btw lol)!! I don't have a stock Touch Pro with me now... I'll be able to get my hands on it tomorrow and will let you know what it is...


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