XV6850 is the red-headed stepchild of Touch Pro's

[flyinonice4]

Originally Posted by mdodge

I'm not meaning to be argumentative, I was just explaining that more ram is better, as he was stating it makes no difference. Side by side they may run nearly the same, but I would love to see stats of how many times a vzw version needs to be reset over a months time vs the sprint version. Overtime without a reset, the vzw will surely bog down more than the sprint or other versions. This is also tied to how much the phone is used, how many apps opened/closed..etc.

I dont dispute that the vzw version is not a good phone. I just recommended it to a verizon user friend of mine. With custom roms and tweaks it can run great. But the point of discussion was the idea of ram making no difference. It does and I would take that "uneccessary" ram anyday.

True. I think anyone would take the extra ram. I'm just saying having the lower amount doesnt seem to make a difference when you actually use it. Granted, you'll never have to worry able running out of ram (I hope), but speed wise it doesnt seem all that much different.

BTW, hibby50, I have the vzw version of the phone. I didnt want to take a chance and port the sprint version onto verizon because I wouldnt have a warranty then. My friend did though and that was how I was able to do a side by side test. Seeing as how the op didnt like his vzw version I thought that porting the sprint one over was a good alternative if he wanted to stay with the verizon network. So I didnt do anything to hurt sprint, I promise!

[Exil3d]

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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46784

[Baffles]

Originally Posted by Zenoran

rollover is def an added bonus here.

Do you mind if I ask why everyone thinks rollover is such a bonus? The way I see it, the only time you accumulate a large amount of roll over minutes is if you consistently don't use all your minutes, so you have no chance in using up those rollover minutes, unless you happen to have a month with high usage. I can see where rollover could save you there, but then again, if I had a month of abnormally high usage I'm sure sprint would give me a temporary credit to cover it or only make me pay a few bucks for the extra minutes.

I just think its such a gimmick, you always see people bragging about their thousands of worthless rollover minutes, meanwhile AT&T is laughing that people buy into it. Maybe its just me though...

[hibby50]

Originally Posted by vzwdts

Your logic is about as spotty as AT&T's 3G coverage.

hahahahaha i mean monthy service wise

[Zenoran]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46784

yup.

Originally Posted by Baffles

Do you mind if I ask why everyone thinks rollover is such a bonus? The way I see it, the only time you accumulate a large amount of roll over minutes is if you consistently don't use all your minutes, so you have no chance in using up those rollover minutes, unless you happen to have a month with high usage. I can see where rollover could save you there, but then again, if I had a month of abnormally high usage I'm sure sprint would give me a temporary credit to cover it or only make me pay a few bucks for the extra minutes.

I just think its such a gimmick, you always see people bragging about their thousands of worthless rollover minutes, meanwhile AT&T is laughing that people buy into it. Maybe its just me though...

Yup, I see your point but for someone like me it would actually work well. I hardly EVER talk on the phone so I can go a month without even using 50 minutes... but, sometimes I get stuck on work calls spur-of-the-moment that could last for hours so it's nice to have a bank of all the minutes I would have normally lost, to not worry about going over in those circumstances.



people can hate all you want but simply put, verizon dropped the ball on this phone. if you are arguing FOR verizon, saying this phone is better, you clearly don't have your facts straight or are just stubborn and biased.

abt Verizon vs Sprint vs ATT for service coverage? I think that really has to do with the area the person lives in because coverage is different for every carrier... granted, some are more consistently better but if you live in an area that has poor coverage it doesn't matter if you're carrying around cray-super-duper-phone, you're not gonna be able to check your email or get a phone all

So ya, maybe the best solution is to get a Sprint phone and put it on Verizon's network... but the simple fact that Verizon continually makes stupid decisions like this to ultimately screw the customers, out of gread, I am inclined to take my business elsewhere and try another carrier. None of them are immune to wanting to profit but Verizon is definitely top-ranked for BREAKING SHT to make more money. Considering how much money we dump into these companies on a yearly basis I think we're at least entitled to not feel cheated.

[namtaru]

Originally Posted by Zenoran

people can hate all you want but simply put, verizon dropped the ball on this phone. if you are arguing FOR verizon, saying this phone is better, you clearly don't have your facts straight or are just stubborn and biased.

I have yet to see in this thread, or any thread on this forum, where someone stated the Verizon phone was better

I'm arguing the fact that there is no NOTICEABLE speed difference having the less ram. And at least to me, that's all i care about.


Did you see the video of my TP the day i unboxed it? smooth as butter stock out of the box
http://namtaru.com/uploads/2008/Files/TF3D_Demo.avi

[vzwdts]

As namtaru said, no one said that VZW version is better, in fact, it's pretty universally agreed that it's subpar to the Alltel/Sprint versions when it comes to included accessories and RAM. Per VZW, the GPS is being fixed.

VZW has honestly made big jumps forward in compatibility in other areas, even if they make stupid decisions sometimes (cough cough, touch pro). They're rallying heavily behind LTE as a universal standard for cell phones, and their OpenDevelopment program is the first of it's kind for any CDMA cellular provider (plus, they'll be adapting it over to LTE when that comes around).

VZW may have extreme lapses in judgement, but who doesn't? Look at Sprint's smartphone MMS. It's there.. but still broken-*****. Why? I don't know! But it doesn't make me hate Sprint. So put your pitchforks down and take your lawyers off speed dial, the VZW Touch Pro isn't near as big of a deal as some people are making it out to be.

Can't we all just get along?

[leetsauce]

tl;dr (the entire thread)

Verizon sucks anyway.

[vzwdts]

Thank you for that insightful commentary and contribution to the thread.

[jmorton10]

Originally Posted by vzwdts

VZW may have extreme lapses in judgement, but who doesn't? Look at Sprint's smartphone MMS. It's there.. but still broken-*****. Why? I don't know! ?

This is the first intelligent post here. As far as one phone being faster than the other, I agree there is no significant difference in actual use.

I have a Sprint TP ported to verizon that I love, a co-worker of mine just bought the vz 6850. I think his phone is kind of homely looking next to mine (he does too), but side by side in speed testing they run about the same as long as you don't have 14 apps running at the same time (& if you do, you're an idiot)

~John