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View Poll Results: Does your Touch Pro suffer from Graphic Performance issues?
Yes- It's an issue that needs to be fixed 113 57.07%
Yes- But it's not that big of an issue 29 14.65%
No- It's not an issue for me 56 28.28%
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: Graphics Performance issues?

So have we been able to establish if this is REALLY hardware or software? Because I thought the patent issues between Qualcomm and Broadcom were settled.
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Re: Graphics Performance issues?

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So have we been able to establish if this is REALLY hardware or software? Because I thought the patent issues between Qualcomm and Broadcom were settled.
From all that I read, it is still up in the air as to whether it is software or hardware related.. I think software.. A driver update would probably fix it.. It usually solves issues for graphic cards on computers... I don't believe this is an issue between Qualcomm and Broadcomm... But you are right.. The patent issues have been settled..
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From all that I read, it is still up in the air as to whether it is software or hardware related.. I think software.. A driver update would probably fix it.. It usually solves issues for graphic cards on computers... I don't believe this is an issue between Qualcomm and Broadcomm... But you are right.. The patent issues have been settled..
Eh... Economically HTC is trying to save money which is natural for all businesses. Their thought process is probably something similar to this:
'So should we pay Tom & Co. the $260k they want to finish the graphics drivers?'

'Nah, no one will notice. People are not going to be playing games or watching movies enough to be bothered by it'
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:33 PM
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Eh... Economically HTC is trying to save money which is natural for all businesses. Their thought process is probably something similar to this:

'So should we pay Coz & Co. the $260k they want to finish the graphics drivers?'

'Nah, no one will notice. People are not going to be playing games or watching movies enough to be bothered by it'
haha... Yeah.. Too bad.. As I see it.. The Touch Pro and the Diamond are the flagship offerings that HTC has in the United States right now.. I know they have the HTC HD and the HTC Max, but until those are released in the US for public consumption, I just don't see why they would not want the maximum potential of their flagship phone's realized..

I know HTC makes a lot of phones, not even including contracted work like the G1, but it is better to be at your 100% with fewer phones than 85% with a whole swath of offerings..

In the long term, the benefits will outway the costs... It may cost them $260k or whatever to have great graphic drivers, but its better than becoming known for having sub-par graphics on your high-end flagship phones..

What I find interesting is that HTC is not the only company that utilizes the ARM11 processor chipset, yet they are the only one that seems to have well-known graphic-related issues...
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I am not interested in starting a lawsuit.. I was reading the article linked to above and was intrigued enough to ask people if they thought they had the same issues..
Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was hammering you. We just went through all of this with the Touch and similar devices. It's like Deja Vu all over.
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Re: Graphics Performance issues?

ive been watching family guy and stand by me on core player and it is niceee
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ive been watching family guy and stand by me on core player and it is niceee
when I first installed TCPMP.. video lagged a bit. Coreplayer was able to play with without the lag. I'm assume it's the updated codecs.
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when I first installed TCPMP.. video lagged a bit. Coreplayer was able to play with without the lag. I'm assume it's the updated codecs.
Coreplayer has reverse-engineered code that helps, but is nowhere near what it could be with real support from the manufacturers and makers.
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ive been watching family guy and stand by me on core player and it is niceee
How are you watching FamilyGuy on core?
what site/method?
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Re: Graphics Performance issues?

Video performance is dismal on this device, and compares horribly to devices over 4 years old now. While it won't have me returning my TP, it absolutely kills me to have hardware potential deliberately untapped for economic reasons. Heck if they CHARGED for the drivers as an add on, I'd consider paying.

I certainly will be looking at this issue with a more discerning eye in the future when it comes time to replace this handset.
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