Touch Pro Cleanup (Sprint Edition) - Page 16

mrhankey184 · #**151** (**permalink**) 12-04-2008, 07:20 PM

cool but where would I find that setting? I looked everywhere in the phone

EDIT: found it!

**GoodThings2Life** · #**152** (**permalink**) 12-05-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ryangruhn

I used the clean up but now when I click on "All Programs" from the programs menu in TF3D it shows doubles of many programs (calendar, RSS Hub, etc.). How do I remove the copies?

If it doubles up the program listing, it is because you customized your start menu prior to installing. Just use File Explorer and go to \Windows\Start Menu and remove any extras.

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Originally Posted by mrhankey184

GoodThings2Life,

I am currently using your sprint clean up and so far so good. I have only 2 questions for you. I need to place Sprint Telenav on my programs list but I go in and go to the list through touch flo 3d it doesn't display telenav as an option to place on my program quick list.

My 2nd question is when I am typing on my pull out keyboard sometimes it doesn't display the characters I type.

Thanks

EDIT:

I figured it out. Thanks

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Originally Posted by mrhankey184

cool but where would I find that setting? I looked everywhere in the phone

EDIT: found it!

Glad you figured it out... it's not my packages that break the ClearType settings... Advanced Config and Diamond Tweak (among other tools) have a feature called "Enable ClearType in Landscape". This setting breaks typing in landscape mode. Hopefully this will get fixed in a firmware upgrade later.

Merq · #**153** (**permalink**) 12-05-2008, 10:49 AM

Thanks GT2L, I'm a user of the Tweaks Only package. Just giving you your props.

Nice work. Makes setting everything up by hand every hard reset a breeze!

ItsDon · #**154** (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodThings2Life

If it doubles up the program listing, it is because you customized your start menu prior to installing. Just use File Explorer and go to \Windows\Start Menu and remove any extras.

I'm having the same issue. I initially installed the original cleanup package (to my device) but didn't like the small icons so I installed the cleanup package with the large icons (to my storage card). The second package uninstalled the first and seems to be working fine with the exception of double and triple entries of program listings in the "all programs" screen.

They are not doubled up on the start menu (that is fine) or on the programs tab (the one with the icons), they are just duplicated on the "all programs" screen (the button at the bottom right of the programs icon screen).

I tried your suggestion above but nothing appeared to be duplicated in the \Windows\Start Menu field.

Other than this issue what you have produced is awesome - thanks!

**GoodThings2Life** · #**155** (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsDon

I'm having the same issue. I initially installed the original cleanup package (to my device) but didn't like the small icons so I installed the cleanup package with the large icons (to my storage card). The second package uninstalled the first and seems to be working fine with the exception of double and triple entries of program listings in the "all programs" screen.

They are not doubled up on the start menu (that is fine) or on the programs tab (the one with the icons), they are just duplicated on the "all programs" screen (the button at the bottom right of the programs icon screen).

I tried your suggestion above but nothing appeared to be duplicated in the \Windows\Start Menu field.

Other than this issue what you have produced is awesome - thanks!

My first question is... Why didn't you just Start > Settings > System > TouchFLO and re-enable the large start menu icons? Then all you need to do is download the right package for future hard resets.

Now that said, here's what I'm betting happened to you since you installed it twice...

Open Start > Programs ... if you have anything listed there that is repeated in the Start > Windows Mobile folder, there's the problem... especially if you now have a Start > Programs > Windows Mobile folder with all the same icons as in Start > Windows Mobile. The Programs folder will be EMPTY after installing the full packages the first time, but the second time essentially duplicated the structure since it didn't have anything to cleanup, so it started over.

You can clean out the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder duplicates to solve your issue.

Anyway, this isn't a bug caused by the package. It's the combination of the way Windows Mobile handles Start Menu shortcut creation, and the fact that you installed it twice, so there's no real fix for it other than not to install it twice.

ItsDon · #**156** (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the hand holding

That suggestion worked, to a point. I went into the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder and sure enough there were a bunch of dupes. I hit "select all" and then "delete" to attempt to make the folder empty as you suggest. Most of the programs did delete but then it hit some Windows system files (Help, Bubble Breaker etc.) and warned that deleting them would make them unusable. I hit cancel.

As a test I did go back in there and deleted the "Help" file to see if just the dupe would go away but no, the whole help file appears to be deleted from the device.

The All Programs list still shows some dupes, basically everything listed in the Programs folder that is a system file. Those appear to be the 'real' files, do you know where to find and delete the duplicate entries to these? Thanks again.

**GoodThings2Life** · #**157** (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsDon

Thanks for the hand holding

That suggestion worked, to a point. I went into the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder and sure enough there were a bunch of dupes. I hit "select all" and then "delete" to attempt to make the folder empty as you suggest. Most of the programs did delete but then it hit some Windows system files (Help, Bubble Breaker etc.) and warned that deleting them would make them unusable. I hit cancel.

As a test I did go back in there and deleted the "Help" file to see if just the dupe would go away but no, the whole help file appears to be deleted from the device.

The All Programs list still shows some dupes, basically everything listed in the Programs folder that is a system file. Those appear to be the 'real' files, do you know where to find and delete the duplicate entries to these? Thanks again.

Once you dump the Start Menu dupes, soft reset to force the All Programs list to refresh.

As for the "system" files... they're only marked that way if they were included in the original setup. They are safe to delete.

ItsDon · #**158** (**permalink**) 12-06-2008, 04:20 PM

Gosh I hate being a noob

It seems just when I fix something it creates another problem. I deleted everything in the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs folder as you suggested (ignoring the Windows warnings) and all the dupes in the All Programs screen went away

Now, however my "Recent Programs" section is blank. This is the area at the top once you hit the Start menu. I started several programs to see if it would repopulate but it remains blank.

Second, now when I go to Start/Settings/Menu I only have the 7 items that are currently visible (checked) at the Start menu but nothing else, no option to check or uncheck any additional programs I may want there. Plus the Programs folder (after hitting Start) is now empty (obviously) and I can see no reason to have it there and no way to delete it, is it neccesary? Will it repopulate?

I have performed a soft reset.

Frustrating. What am I missing?

**GoodThings2Life** · #**159** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ItsDon

Now, however my "Recent Programs" section is blank. This is the area at the top once you hit the Start menu. I started several programs to see if it would repopulate but it remains blank.

That's true. Recent Programs only monitors the actual "Programs" folder. This is also something I described in the initial post:

"Please pay attention to this part! The programs that come with the phone are moved to the Start Menu and are categorized into "Office Mobile, Windows Live Mobile, and Windows Mobile". Only the Sprint Shortcuts are deleted, which is why the cab file is included. Programs YOU install are left alone, and those are the programs you'll see in the "Recent" list."

For what it's worth, give it some time and the Recent Programs listing will probably become one of the most annoying features about the start menu, especially as you install more programs that didn't come with the phone. I would have preferred having that space available for pinning icons...

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Originally Posted by ItsDon

Second, now when I go to Start/Settings/Menu I only have the 7 items that are currently visible (checked) at the Start menu but nothing else, no option to check or uncheck any additional programs I may want there. Plus the Programs folder (after hitting Start) is now empty (obviously) and I can see no reason to have it there and no way to delete it, is it neccesary? Will it repopulate?

A couple things to consider here:

1) The main start menu can only list 7 things, and all 7 are in use. I admit that isn't mentioned in my posts, and I did forget that's not obvious.

2) Again, there is nothing in the programs folder until you install something, so there is nothing to "readjust".

If you unpin them from that menu listing, the folders will be moved back to the Programs folder, but the icons will still be sorted by folders. This will give you the advantage of them appearing in the Recent list again-- useful if you're not planning on installing anything else-- but you will still only have the folders listed as items to pin on the main menu, and you'll increase the number taps to reach everything by at least an extra tap and flick.

If I may... now that the duplicates are removed, I'd encourage you to simply leave the start menu alone a while and spend a day or two with it as is. I'll bet that it grows on you, but if not, just open File Explorer back to \Windows\Start Menu and used Edit > Select All, Menu.. Edit > Cut, and Edit > Paste to move all the icons back into the main Programs folder from the new folders I made (actually, move Office and Games back by cutting the folders, not the icons, if you want the original layout).

By the way... No worries on being a noob. I tried to piece this together and explain everything as thorough as possible, but there are always things like this that are completely new and overwhelming for first time users. I don't mind answering questions as long as people are willing to learn and experiment.

mrhankey184 · #**160** (**permalink**) 12-07-2008, 07:26 PM

GoodThings2Life,

Once again I love your cab! I have two topics to discuss with you or anybody else who can answer properly.

When I originally got my phone my volume keys on the side let me lower and raise the volume by hitting the up volume button or the down volume button. Now when I tap either button it opens up the volume control and if it hit it again it no longer changes the volume it just closes the volume utility. Do you know of a fix?

My 2nd is a Display question. I would like my top and lower curtains to be transparent so it appears that my screen is larger. I hope I am explaining the right term. Curtains are where you hit programs/phone on the Today screen or Start and the batter/signal icons on the top?

Besides that I am a happy camper!

Thanks