Is the thickness worth having the hardware keyboard?

[SprintTouch08]

i dunno im still on the fence too. its not all just the size, it weighs more too. it does feel bulkier in the hand- maybe its just the curves to the pro i dont know but it feels larger than it should feel for 3mm thicker.

im also far from impressed with the pro build quality so far, my diamond is flawless after a month and out of the box my pro has the raised d-pad (very slighlty but noticable) theres already a little flaking of the chrome by the power button (chrome is always the FIRST thing to scratch or flake on a phone, horrible deicision on this device or any expensive phone) and i NEVER abuse my phone- i just sold a 1 year old orig. Touch in perfect shape, not a mark on it, so the flaking chrome wasnt me bumping or scratching it.

Also im VERY concerned about the slider- its feels very cheaply made and loose when closed. I also dont like when youre holding the phone and tap the screen it moves around forward and back because of the gap between the 2 halves of the phone (feels squishy and not firm to tap the screen, very disconcerning feel), and it CREAKS (battery cover does too). And im the last one to nitpick a phone, but this is supposed to be their top of the line PRO device at $600.

Im on the fence right now but I had a free Diamond and out of contract on SERO, and i didnt resign for 2 years and pay $260 for a poorly built device when their nearly identical device, the Diamond, feels like a rock and small in the hand. The hard keyboard is nice but like u ive learned to type fast with pocketcm keyboard. I just am starting to feel locked in 2 years (even if i am staying its always nice to have freedom n out of contract) and paying $260 simply wasnt worth the upgrade from the diamond with the poor build quality were seeing around so far with various creaks and speaker/earpiece issues etc

[ScrapMaker]

Originally Posted by SprintTouch08

i dunno im still on the fence too. its not all just the size, it weighs more too. it does feel bulkier in the hand- maybe its just the curves to the pro i dont know but it feels larger.

im also not impressed with the pro build quality, my diamond is flawless after a month and out of the box my pro has the raised d-pad (slighlty but not terrible) theres already a little flaking of the chrome by the power button (chrome is always the FIRST thing to scratch or flake on a phone, horrible deicision on this device) and i NEVER abuse my phone- i just sold a 1 year old Touch in perfect shape, so the flaking chrome wasnt me bumping or scratching it. Also im VERY concerned about the slider- its feels very cheaply made and lose when closed. I also dont like when youre holding the phone and tap it moves around because of the gap between the 2 halves of the phone (feels squishy and not firm to tap the screen, very disconcerning feel).

Im on the fence right now but I had a free Diamond and out of contract on SERO, and i didnt resign for 2 years and pay $260 for a poorly built device when their nearly identical device, thd Diamond, feels like a rock and small in the hand. The hard keyboard is nice but like u ive learned to type fast with pocketcm keyboard

Build quality is a big concern to me as well... the phone feels like it could EASILY break, whereas my friends 6700 feels like a tank, and it only slightly larger.

I have heard that the keyboard mechanism on the Tilt has a sturdier design... and that TILTS!

I am really worried about the slider design... it has a sort of scraping sound when I open it... not nearly as fluid as I had hoped it would be.

I just hope when I get this replaced at BB, that a few of these things work themselves out. I cannot figure out why the keyboard has so much damn slack in it when the unit is closed... it feels like they aren't even connected... I can rotate the kb almost 5 degrees in both directions. So much that when I try to push the volume buttons (which are stupidly on the top section, the phone just moves, and the buttons don't get pressed.

Oh, and another thing. Why the FRICK does every HTC phone have to have a poorly designed battery cover that squeaks? That's my biggest problem will these phones... every time I press a button, or touch the phone, the damn battery cover squeaks... it moves like 1-2mm it seems... I try padding it with paper towels, but it doesn't completely solve the issue. Also, on my TP, there are places on the side of the battery cover that "poke out." like the cover doesn't play nice with the track it slides on, and I can feel where the cover is bending and sticking out... which is undoubtedly causing the squeak/movement...

Just venting...

[SprintTouch08]

Originally Posted by ScrapMaker

Build quality is a big concern to me as well... the phone feels like it could EASILY break, whereas my friends 6700 feels like a tank, and it only slightly larger.

I have heard that the keyboard mechanism on the Tilt has a sturdier design... and that TILTS!

I am really worried about the slider design... it has a sort of scraping sound when I open it... not nearly as fluid as I had hoped it would be.

I just hope when I get this replaced at BB, that a few of these things work themselves out. I cannot figure out why the keyboard has so much damn slack in it when the unit is closed... it feels like they aren't even connected... I can rotate the kb almost 5 degrees in both directions. So much that when I try to push the volume buttons (which are stupidly on the top section, the phone just moves, and the buttons don't get pressed.

Oh, and another thing. Why the FRICK does every HTC phone have to have a poorly designed battery cover that squeaks? That's my biggest problem will these phones... every time I press a button, or touch the phone, the damn battery cover squeaks... it moves like 1-2mm it seems... I try padding it with paper towels, but it doesn't completely solve the issue. Also, on my TP, there are places on the side of the battery cover that "poke out." like the cover doesn't play nice with the track it slides on, and I can feel where the cover is bending and sticking out... which is undoubtedly causing the squeak/movement...

Just venting...

mine has the same slack in it too, i just think how they keyboard was designed. That doesnt bug me nearly as much as when you tap the screen it "clacks" the 2 halves of the phone together. Try it, just give a swift lil tap on th eleft side of the screen and youll hear it clack (wont happen on the right where the hindge is), its a very annoying sound and poor build qauilty IMO. I know slide out keyboards are usually the weakest part, but i had a mogul and 6700 in the past and they felt more solidly built than this one is.

i noticed (accidently) if you press the chrome a little around the dpad, the dpad starts to pop up. not good, again shoddy build.

And like you said when its closed theres a ton of play, i get there has to be a little but liek you said its a good few degrees the screen will twist. Again poor build quality, and i don teven have a bad speaker like some!!

Overall i think its going back. Id rather go back to SERO out of contract on a free Diamond that i still have, then pay $260 and resigning for 2 years to have this thing which is not very well built IMO and not worth $600. Its unfortunate because HTCs other product on Sprint, the Diamond, feels rock solid all over. I dont type too many long emails that couldnt wait until i get to a computer or my laptop i was just hoping to try out having a real keyboard again, everything short i can manage tapping pocketcm keyboard pretty well. The other things people say they love, well honestly theyre just toys/eye candy like the flash and business card reader. honestly how often will you use that is the question. the little light is pretty useless as a camera flash if its dark youre not getting a good **** anyways. If you need a flashlight get a $1-2 keychain one. The business card reader is jsut software and someone will rip the files off. The microsd is nice, but 4gb is enough for average users. I have igo8 (just for my state), 2 full movies, and prob jus over 100 songs plus my cache for programs on it and not even touching 1.5 gb yet.

It really depends on your needs, but IMO if youre like me save your $ because the Diamond is just built better and "more worth the $" but that jsut my opinion. I dont think a phone falling apart after having it 4 or 5 days is worth even $260+2 years, even if it was a great deal at BB.