Killed the battery already.

[saqer]

Here's my experience for Lithium Ion batteries

1. Charge to the max on first use and keep connected to charger for a little while longer
2. For first couple of weeks drain down to 20-30% but never leave battery completely juiceless. There's some sort of mechanism built into lith-ion batteries to prevent damage from happening but they're not always reliable.
3. Try your best to use backup batteries instead of constantly recharging your battery over course of day. Lithium batteries will tend to lose 20% of original "capacity" after every 400-500 charge cycles.
4. If you do need to recharge during the day try to recharge to 100%.
5. Never charge Lithium battery in hot conditions (especially cars!). Make sure to cool environment down first. I would say reasonable temperature is 70 F. Charging in hot conditions is sure to diminish long term battery health.
6. If you need to store battery for longer amounts of time bring charge down to 30-40%. Wrap around with plastic or something and place in fridge.

[TurboFool]

My Seidio battery and the manuals of multiple electronics I've read will contradict themselves by both telling you LiIons shouldn't be run down all the way and also telling you you won't reach full life until you've drained the battery fully the first few times. I'm just telling you what I've read time and again. It drives me crazy, and it's a direct contradiction, but I continue to see it.

[dallastx]

Is it the same battery as the sprint diamond without the keyboard?

[Certs]

The TP battery is 1340 Mah, I believe the Diamond batt is 1000.

EDIT: Just looked on Engadget, and according to them the TD battery is also 1340

[sn0b0ard]

Originally Posted by Pattycerts

The TP battery is 1340 Mah, I believe the Diamond batt is 1000.

EDIT: Just looked on Engadget, and according to them the TD battery is also 1340

The original GSM Touch Diamond comes with a 900mah battery. The Sprint and Telus Touch Diamond both come with 1340mah (the same as the Touch Pro). The Diamond probably will get better battery life due to not having camera flash and a keyboard.

[EtherealRemnant]

I ALWAYS take my phone right out of the box and play with it til the battery dies, then do a full charge... never have had any issues...

Anyway... I'm kinda nervous about the battery life... But at the same time, I put my Mogul on the charger every single night. When I don't though, I get about two days usage.

[chedda_chez]

you get TWO days usage with ur mogul when you dont charge it up all the way. WTF?

i charge it EVERY night and cant get that at all...not even a full day

-Chez

[SprintTouch08]

Originally Posted by sn0b0ard

The original GSM Touch Diamond comes with a 900mah battery. The Sprint and Telus Touch Diamond both come with 1340mah (the same as the Touch Pro). The Diamond probably will get better battery life due to not having camera flash and a keyboard.

exactly and i said elsewhere in another thread, people seem to have a huge misconception on the 2 devices.

Its the SAME battery or nearly 99% identical hardware (a flash led and a few keyboard LEDs, not huge draw).

The battery life wont be any better than the Diamond for people worried about it or coming from a Diamond thinking the Pro will be the saving grace device. It seems from reading around people seem to think for some reason the Pro is the end all of devices compared to the Diamond when the internals are almost identical on identical batteries. If someone didnt like the Diamond outside of needing a keyboard or memory card slot, they arent going to like the Pro either as theyre nearly identical otherwise fro those 2 major features..

[cocochannel]

Originally Posted by Pattycerts

The TP battery is 1340 Mah, I believe the Diamond batt is 1000.

EDIT: Just looked on Engadget, and according to them the TD battery is also 1340

critical said sprint picked the 2400 Mah for the battery for the TP. i guess i will have to keep the diamonds battery when returning it. so with 2 i can go to a full day.

[no2chem]

Originally Posted by TurboFool

My Seidio battery and the manuals of multiple electronics I've read will contradict themselves by both telling you LiIons shouldn't be run down all the way and also telling you you won't reach full life until you've drained the battery fully the first few times. I'm just telling you what I've read time and again. It drives me crazy, and it's a direct contradiction, but I continue to see it.

My final words on the subject:
1) Full capcity of Li-Ion is available immediately. In fact, available capacity decreases due to increasing internal resistance per charge cycle.

2) I wouldn't trust a manual for an aftermarket battery... and I haven't read any manuals for Li-ION batteries that suggest discharge cycles. The most I've seen them suggest is that the gauge may not be calibrated until a full discharge cycle, because the battery needs to measure timing accoring to your use... Note that this is only useful for devices that have a time remaining gauge... which phones don't have.

3) Li-ion batteries come charged for a reason, because if they are stored with no charge, they will quickly be damaged.

4) The biggest enemies of Li-Ion battery life are time, temperature, and discharge cycles, and depletion. This means - don't leave your battery lying around at a high temperature, use your charger when you can (but don't charge your phone for small periods of time, this raises the temperature, only charge when you know for SURE that you have time to fully charge the battery), and don't do wacko things like "deep discharge" your batery, because you WILL irreversibly damage the Li-Ion cells. Especially dont let the voltage drop below the threshold. Also, don't store the battery at 100% charge, because this will reduce the life as well.

I want to re-iterate that the reason you leave it on the charger when you can is that discharge seems to produce a significant amount of heat due to internal resistance, which probably screws with the battery life, Even though you will be storing the battery at 100% as a result, this is better than generating heat and discharging the battery. Of course, if you are going to store this as your spare battery, discharge it to 40%, then store in a cool place!