New Info on Touch Pro and Diamond
 

I thought I would post this under a new thread, try to keep the most recent news fresh...

Found this at http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/More...le-a_3021.html


Yesterday we posted an article saying that the Sprint variant of the Touch Diamond may launch this month, but now we have slightly different information. Thanks to a few comments from our readers and some internal documents, we’ve pretty much got the information everybody wanted.

First, HTC Touch Diamond will be called HTC Victor for Sprint and HTC Diamond for Verizon. Sprint’s variant runs on Qualcomm 7501A chipset with 528MHz processor, 256MB ROM, 256MB RAM and 4GB internal memory. Verizon’s runs on Qualcomm 7500 chipset with 400MHz processor, has half the RAM (128MB) and has microSD cards slot instead of 4GB NAND flash. Sprint’s Victor will have an accelerometer (Motion G Sensor), Rev.A straight out of the box, and aluminum frame. Verizon’s Diamond lacks the sensor, is Rev.A upgradable and has stainless steel frame. Other features seem to be similar to the GSM model and identical for both, including 2.8” VGA display, 3.2MP autofocus camera, TouchFLO 3D, Opera browser and YouTube client. The CDMA equivalent of the HTC Touch Pro will be called HTC Herman for Sprint and HTC Raphael for Verizon. They are QWERTY variants of respectively the Victor and the Diamond and have similar specifications, but twice the ROM memory (512MB for both). Herman trades Victor’s 4GB for memory card slot and Raphael’s frame is also made out of aluminum instead of steel.

A few of our readers report that the Victor will be available with Sprint on September 02, 2008, and the Herman will come one month later. There is no exact information when Verizon Wireless will release the Diamond and the Raphael, but it is expected that Sprint will have 30 days exclusivity

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They will come to Sprint with:

Open Internet!!! well, would be very nice but needs live tests!
Sprint TV =D>
Sprint Music Store =D>
Active Sync OTW and OTA =D>
Navigation via GPS signal =D>
Mobile IM =D>
PictureMail???

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some of those specs are crazy! is this accurate?

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divx - if you click on the link, there are actually scanned documents of the comparison between the 2 carriers.... Now anyone could slap a Sprint logo on a sheet a paper, but why bother?

I think this is as much "hard" evidence of what we will get in one to two months. Too bad it didn't say anything about price.

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man .. I'm almost thinking about returning my Touch (within my 30 day window) .. going back to month to month SERO and re-connecting my A900. Then re-uping my contract and getting the Touch Pro in Sept. (is that even doable?!)

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I'm still hoping the touch pro/Herman will come out sooner. I noticed the Sprint site no longer lists the Mogul.

Also, very interested in the price. I've seen 499/599 249/349 after discounts, but I guess everything is speculation at this point until they come out.

I agree with another poster that verizon's diamond doesnt make sense for HTC (adding memory card slot - removing feature) who knows.

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Lol @ verizon's specs, sucks for them....

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I find it funny that Sprint somehow knows what versions of the phones verizon is going to have.. Anyone else think that smells fishy?

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Sprint is always the 1st to get them so its not that fishy..

Sprint told/bribed HTC to screw VZW over, ever since the 6800XV...:p

:p j/k but seriously it seems they're getting the short end of the CDMA stick, price & HTC wise.

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it's so random that the specs are so different. All the way down to the material of the frame... and it's not like sprint has steel frames for theirs and verizon has aluminum. they're flipflopped? I dont understand the inconsistency. oh well, it's beyond us and i'll just be excited when we get it.

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the comparison chart says that verizon diamond has 54mb ISM where the sprint victor only has 32mb. what is the ISM?

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I'm guessing the verizon stuff isn't correct. If I remember right, the rumors when the mogul came out were that sprint was getting the shaft and verizon was getting a phone pretty equal to the tilt in terms of specs...

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ISM stands for "Industrial, Scientific and Medical". It refers to several radio bands left "unlicensed" due to several issues.

The 2.4GHz ISM band is being made available "unlicensed" due to noise radiated from devices, the most common being microwave ovens. It's also becoming useful for technologies such as Wireless LANs, Bluetooth, cordless telephones, baby monitors, security monitoring, and several other applications using spread spectrum technology.

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Found this after your definition of ISM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_band

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interesting, but what is the ISM memory for?

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It is intimate shared memory.

I am not sure exactly what it is though. I am assuming video memory maybe.

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Would make sense. As much as they are pushing the graphical interface, I would think this would be a good idea.

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I am not sure exactly why they are different amounts on the phones, but Verizon has more. My thoughts are it is due to the different chip sets. Here's to hoping the 7501 handles video better than the 7500.

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The 7501 will walk circles around the 7500...

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i thought it was 7500A

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The link says 7501A. Who really knows how accurate that sheet is though...

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phonearena LMAO

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Yeah I've heard both ends... but all I can find on the net is the 7500A so that's probably what it is.

pdadb doesn't even list the processors on the CDMA variants.

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Yes they sure do. I got out a year ago, and STRONGLY suggest everyone else do the same.

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I found this link about ISM. I don't see how this translate to mobile phones, but it is a nice read.

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/ism.html

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Verizon pays for what they want. They obviously aren't shelling out enough money for higher specs.

Crazy how Verizon opted to keep the same Qualcomm processor found in the XV6800/6900 which LACKS video drivers, I wonder if TouchFlo3D is going to struggle without the drivers, probably will I mean extra Ram can only do so much.

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I can say that a "very reliable" source told me that the Mogul from sprint will not be available for shipment come september.

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I have a hard time believeing that the hardware is going to be custome fitted to each company's needs. this sounds a TAD bit far-fetched in my opinion.

Am I alone on this?

I am aware of SOFTWARE differences on phones, and ROMs and such, but a difference in hardware sounds a bit complicated for a production line, since they would be turning out 50 different Diamonds and Touch Pro's to cater to every carrier.

wouldn't Verizon's phone specs be just as secret and exclusive as Sprint's? Why would HTC or verizon be giving out this information to a competitor, who then releases this information to others?

I'm not trying to completely debunk this, I just think its pretty freaking fishy...

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The HTC touch has different specs between the gsm and the cdma version, its 200mhz vs 400 or something like that, and different ram...

Just depends on how much a carrier is willing to pay to have a high end phone in their line...

HTC has ALWAYS made different versions for different carriers, and sometimes HTC isnt even branded on the phone for certain carriers...

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God I hope they change the name from Herman to virtually anything else. I would rather have the HTC 2girls1cup phone than the Herman.

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LMAO, I can't believe you just said that. I know Herman is a bad name but it really isn't that bad is it?

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Herman is a HORRIBLE name. Also, it is my father in law's name so that makes it even worse.

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All I can say is if you think for a second that Sprint can't pull some strings to find out anything it can about Verizon's phone lineup, or Sprint doesn't have people they sent over to be employed by Verizon solely to relay information to Sprint, or that Sprint couldn't pay someone off at HTC to find out information, you seriously gotta remember we're dealing with a Corporation, they are dirty and will do whatever it takes bro.

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I don't think it really has that much to do with it. IF they end up being different, I think it just chalks up to maybe Verizon feels they have some other goal to appeal to their audience.

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You just made my day! LMFAO!

Oh, also, does anyone know whether or not he T-mobile version of the Touch Pro [MDA or something like that] has the stainless steel frame? Because I was wondering if the metal frames indicate that they are squared devices like the original HTC renderings and the current GSM models. I don't want the tops and bottoms to be curved like the mogul [and MDA]

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It will always be the touch and touch pro in my world.
I'll probably sell it to customers that way as well.
We all know there will be little advertising if any on these products anyways.

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No I was talking about how Sprint would know what phone Verizon was going to get.

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Anti-capitalist much?

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Heh

Well, I do see where he's coming from. I don't really think that Sprint has employees go work for Verizon, but it is very likely that Sprint did convince HTC to give them information on Verizon. Either that, or it is open information between corporate offices anyway. But you always have to remember, these companies want to protect their money

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It's a HORRIBLE downgrade form "Mogul" to "Herman". Herman is the janitor at the Mogul's business. I don't get it.