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Old 11-01-2009, 11:37 PM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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It still can't play protected music...
I don't know of customers using Rhapsody, so I'd appreciate it if you could send a short note explaining how you use it to charles@ our domain.

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...can't sort my music per track number within an album...
Albums tracks (regardless of format) are sorted by the track number metadata, so I'd appreciate it if you could contact our support team and they'll arrange to get the tracks for testing and escalation.

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Old 11-01-2009, 06:46 PM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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Its been my experience that the built in youtube app far exceeds Kinoma's picture quality...
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:55 PM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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Its been my experience that the built in youtube app far exceeds Kinoma's picture quality...
I just did an A/B test. Funny...you're right. Now the vid looks better in the built-in app. Go figure.

I wonder if it was always that way and I just had a bad connection, or whether my ROM upgrade changed anything. Either way, I take back my earlier comment.
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Old 11-01-2009, 07:34 PM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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I just did an A/B test. Funny...you're right. Now the vid looks better in the built-in app. Go figure.

I wonder if it was always that way and I just had a bad connection, or whether my ROM upgrade changed anything. Either way, I take back my earlier comment.
When i had an xv6800 Kinoma had much better YT playback than anything else.

That all changed when I got my TP's. Now, I find Kinoma virtuallu useless for just about any kind of video playback & don't even bother installing it anymore (& I have the $30 version)

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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

Actually, I just did a little testing. At least with MP3 files, Kinoma appears to play album tracks in the proper order so long as the album's MP3 files contain track numbers in their ID3 tags. A tagging utility can quickly tag or retag entire albums. I mentioned a couple of free tagging utilities with links to them in another thread here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=94002.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:04 AM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

And there's still no quick way to return to the Kinoma home screen on phones like the Touch Pro 2 without "soft keys". I'd probably be a whole lot less grouchy about this if you guys remedied that, especially since users were pointing out this problem to you in the Kinoma user forums over a year ago. Usability first please.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:09 AM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

Hmm... does this apply to FreePlay? I'm holding and holding the half-loop back arrow at the bottom-left corner, and when I release, it just goes one screen back, not to the home screen. I know FreePlay has a different home screen, but I would expect this to work the same way.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:32 AM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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Hmm... does this apply to FreePlay? I'm holding and holding the half-loop back arrow at the bottom-left corner, and when I release, it just goes one screen back, not to the home screen. I know FreePlay has a different home screen, but I would expect this to work the same way.

Works well for me. I have the paid version. I press and hold the "little back arrow that can't be called a soft key for penalty of death", and I'm brought straight back to the home screen.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:28 AM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

poor Charles... He takes so much crap on so many forums. I like the guy. Great software, cool and concerned support.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:43 PM
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Re: Kinoma Play without Soft Keys = Misery

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poor Charles... He takes so much crap on so many forums. I like the guy. Great software, cool and concerned support.
Thanks! I try not to take it personally, but kind words are always appreciated.

borntochill and I talked again on our forum, and I think we're cool.

My definition of "soft key" comes from personal experience with carriers and device makers (I was at Qualcomm before Kinoma), but that's not useful if readers don't get that they work even if there are no physical keys underneath them. I'm sure we can improve that part of the quick-start guide.

Likewise, I'll bring up the possibility of having a dedicated Home button next time we revisit UI improvements.

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