Touch Pro2 a stopgap?

[Tiberius85]

I have been using this phone for about a month, coming from a Diamond on Sprint, and before that a Mogul. The Mogul to Diamond transition was huge and the improvements were many and throughout. After using the TP2 I just feel... underwhelmed. Im not impressed with it, for its progress over the last generation. It might as well be considered a half a generation leap that took a generation. We still have crap resistive screens, the same long in the tooth clunky qualcomm processors, and before you say anything, 6.5 is underwhelming as well. Needless to say, if it werent for my work requiring me to run this wm app, i would have switched to the Hero and Android. Hell the only bright spot in microsoft's mobile is the Zune HD which is just a glorious package. Think about it.. the wvga screen is the only real improvement from the past. The tilt had the tilting screen, the touch pro had the same amount of ram, rom, and processor. Its just half hearted... a stopgap. And i hope the HD2 isnt the future of their phone designs.. I guess what irks me the most is i knew it was a stopgap by its its name... yet they charged more money for this thing than any of their smartphones in the past. im just ed with it, but i have to live with it at least for another 6 months. If wm doesnt improve to 7 by then and we have another year of this crappy bondo upgrade, im writting them off completely. Any one else feel the same or am i just the exception?

[Dragon2]

IMO no other OS can do what winmo can.

My opinion is other OS' are great, but I need a browser that can download full mp3 albums and use pocket rar to extract them, I need a browser to Upload and Download any file. Oh and have full flash like skyfire ( I know adobe is looking to release full flash and the hero has it already but it seems gimikee). I can even download full movies from my phone and watch em. Or stream full movies via skyfire. I dont think no other OS can do these as of now.

If android could do that and come up with a nice looking phone with a keyboard other than the ugly g1, I might make the move

[shappy0869]

Coming from my Touch (Vogue) I am very happy with the screen and performance (although I realize that the TP2's processor is no step up from the original TP).

I am stuck with WM because I am unwilling to double my phone bill by going over to Android and leaving SERO behind. Android does have a bright future, but right now WM gives me everything I really use my phone for for 95% of its use (corporate and personal email, texting and looking stuff up on the internet via Opera or Skyfire).

Yes, there are cool apps on Android, including the new Google Navigation (which will probably never be seen on WM) and things like Layer augmented reality. But I really don't use my phone that way. YMMV

It would be nice to have choices, but I have to play the cards I am dealt. I do still have a $150 upgrade and I look forward to something like the HD2 becoming available. For now, however, I really like my TP2.

[jmorton10]

Originally Posted by Tiberius85

yet they charged more money for this thing than any of their smartphones in the past.

Verizon certainly didn't do that (I paid $149 for my TP2).

~John

[thunder33cat]

I don't know if you're the exception or not. I'm sure there's probably plenty of people on both sides of the fence.

For me, as I've said elsewhere, the TP2 is the device I've been looking for. The changes may be incremental, but they were what I needed to make the platform what I wanted. I now have wifi, wvga, international capability and a great keyboard in a device running WM.

As someone else noted, it's probably what the TP should have been. Probably so. But as an incremental improvement it suits me perfectly, and allows me to accomplish everything I want to do - for work and for leisure. YMMV, of course.

[BethyM]

It maybe a stopgap, but the increase in the size of the screen is enough for me. I am coming from a Palm Centro - so I feel like I traded in my Escort for a Corvette. The app availability and customization is unmatched. This is a fabulous community too, I'm enjoying the whole experience.

[strra]

i honestly wasn't going to upgrade to a touch pro 2 from my TP due to the few changes and the price. if it weren't for sprint replacing my tp (dead keyboard) with a tp2, i'd still have it.
i will, however, say that this phone is unmatched. as thunder33cat said, the few changes they did make just streamlined it and made it the perfect phone.

i've been a windows mobile fan for years and so far nothing has made me want to stray. if "there's an app for that" on the iphone, there's one plus five other options for it on WM... most of which are free

[BlackDynamite]

Originally Posted by Tiberius85

I have been using this phone for about a month, coming from a Diamond on Sprint, and before that a Mogul. The Mogul to Diamond transition was huge and the improvements were many and throughout. After using the TP2 I just feel... underwhelmed. Im not impressed with it, for its progress over the last generation. It might as well be considered a half a generation leap that took a generation. We still have crap resistive screens, the same long in the tooth clunky qualcomm processors, and before you say anything, 6.5 is underwhelming as well. Needless to say, if it werent for my work requiring me to run this wm app, i would have switched to the Hero and Android. Hell the only bright spot in microsoft's mobile is the Zune HD which is just a glorious package. Think about it.. the wvga screen is the only real improvement from the past. The tilt had the tilting screen, the touch pro had the same amount of ram, rom, and processor. Its just half hearted... a stopgap. And i hope the HD2 isnt the future of their phone designs.. I guess what irks me the most is i knew it was a stopgap by its its name... yet they charged more money for this thing than any of their smartphones in the past. im just ed with it, but i have to live with it at least for another 6 months. If wm doesnt improve to 7 by then and we have another year of this crappy bondo upgrade, im writting them off completely. Any one else feel the same or am i just the exception?

Well the Mogul to Diamond upgrade was so huge because Sprint skipped a generation.

When the Kaiser came out, Sprint didn't get a version. They stuck with the older generation, which was the Mogul.

So the Touch Pro was supposed to be the next generation/upgrade for the Kaiser generation of hardware. If you came from a Mogul, that is why th eupgrade was so huge.

Imagine if you upgraded to the Touch Pro 2 from the Sprint Touch. That would be a pretty significant upgrade, right?

The Tilt (Kaiser) has a TIlting screen, but the Touch Pro 2 is way better in every imaginable way.

As for what the Touch Pro, well the Touch Pro 2 has a bigger screen, better resolution, better screen (more touch sensitive), tilting screen, way better keyboard, awesome speakerphone that you can actually hear (and the caller can hear you in the same quality as if you were not on a speaker phone), awesome conference calling (too bad the CDMA version doesn't have it), Facebook integrated into contacts so you can easily get everyone's picture and birthday, and on the CDMA versions it has a 3.5mm jack.

Looks like a pretty significant upgrade to me. In fact, the only thing it has in common with the Touch Pro is the CPU and RAM- everything else is upgraded.

[Mr_Alexander]

My 2 cents....

I knew I was going to get the TP2 when I first saw video of the phone in action. As mentioned above this was the Touch Pro I wanted in the first place. While there is no real upgrade in so far as cpu hardware (or OS version...6.1 really?!) the design of the phone was enough to sway me. The increase in screen size of course is the biggest improvement. But in my opinion the keyboard is the best improved feature. My big fat thumbs made the TP1 a difficult thing to type with. Having the keys spaced out is just great especially when it comes to typing long emails or multiple messages. The only con is the placement of the backlight button...I keep hitting that thing all the time!

[phat78boy]

Couldn't every new device be considered a stopgap? I don't know any technology that isn't better a year from now. It is up to the user how long they want to use the device, because any technology you buy WILL be obsolete.