Touch Pro2 a stopgap? - Page 2

jumpnjoeyz · #11 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 03:47 PM

The Touch Pro 2 in my opinion has been a nice step forward but it does have limiting factors. The screen size and clarity is nice. The speed is fairly good. Size and feel of the phone and keyboard are very good overall. With the Leo coming out it will be interesting to see how the phone feels in your hands. I would think it would be huge. The overall form factor of the Touch Pro 2 with keyboard and screen size I think is ideal. It would be nice to have a better processor so that when Windows Mobile 7 comes out we could run it. Maybe they come out with a similar devic(shape and form factor with keyboard) that will have a better processor and even a usable FM Radio. HTC is know for giving you bits and pieces but never the whole package in one phone. It makes you always want to try the next new phone on the market. They could have easily put a better camera in the Touch Pro 2 but didn't. We will have to wait and see what the future brings.

Tiberius85 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 06:56 PM

I can understand using the same processor within the same generation, but they used the 7500 in the mogul, the 7501A in the Diamond/TP and the 7600 in the TP2.. all are basically the same processor (7600 and 7501A are higher clocked version s and 7600 has support for GSM networks) which is THREE generations. There have been better ones out for awhile.. like the Snapdragon, which has been around long enough to be put in this generation. If WM7 doesnt kickass, as well as the hardware kickass, im willing to take a hit just so i can make the phone usable all the time. Im a very patient person.. and the UI hangups and quirkiness I get on this thing are just plain awful. Its a disgrace 3 years after the iphone first debuted how far behind the interface (and hardware processor wise) is.

**strra** · #13 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiberius85

Its a disgrace 3 years after the iphone first debuted how far behind the interface (and hardware processor wise) is.

you realize the fastest iphone only has a 72MHz faster CPU than the TP2, right? and it's hardly more powerful...

**BlackDynamite** · #14 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by strra

you realize the fastest iphone only has a 72MHz faster CPU than the TP2, right? and it's hardly more powerful...

The TP2 also has more RAM than an iPhone, and a higher resolution screen. Not sure how anyone can say the TP2 is behind the iPhone in terms of hardware...

BeefJerky · #15 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:11 PM

Not to mention, the TP2 can multitask, while the iPhone cannot.

**strra** · #16 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:13 PM

now that i think about it, my old axim x50v had a faster CPU and higher res than the iphone

Herbal954 · #17 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon2

IMO no other OS can do what winmo can.

My opinion is other OS' are great, but I need a browser that can download full mp3 albums and use pocket rar to extract them, I need a browser to Upload and Download any file. Oh and have full flash like skyfire ( I know adobe is looking to release full flash and the hero has it already but it seems gimikee). I can even download full movies from my phone and watch em. Or stream full movies via skyfire. I dont think no other OS can do these as of now.

If android could do that and come up with a nice looking phone with a keyboard other than the ugly g1, I might make the move

look into Symbian S60, I loved my Nokia N95 8GB and i think i could do everything on my nokia that i can in windows mobile. If VZW had a highend Nokia i wouldeve taken it instead

newone757 · #18 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:21 PM

if you dont like it you have/had time to return it. stop cryin.

im pretty sure, (if you are smart anyways) you looked up or saw the stats on the phone before you blindly purchased it, you should have been able to tell what was upgraded and what is the same. on paper it s pretty much the same but a blind man can see this thing is definitly leaps and bounds over last years device. from responsiveness to volume to screen size and 3.5 jack, all around imporovement.

of course the os side is lacking but nothing a little hspl cant fix once released

Tiberius85 · #19 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:39 PM

I knew exactly what the stats were before I bought it. I bought this device because it was an improvement over the Diamond and because i knew WM7 devices werent coming out for another year AT LEAST. Im not returning it.. im going to load a custom 6.5 or 6.5.1 ROM on it and be less pissed about it.

Also, the iphone proc has 75mhz more clock speed but you are also comparing an ARM Cortex A8 to an ARM11 proc.. hardly apples and apples.. Plus the RAM doesnt matter as much since it doesnt really multitask.. but its programs can consume more of it individually.. plus it has OpenGL.

6.5 or 6.5.1 will probably fix most of my complaints.. 6.1 is just utter crap. The only 2 things this OS has over the iphone OS is the ability to side load apps and multitasking, too HUGE pros in my book... dealbreakers actually. But WM better watch out.. Android is maturing very quickly.

**BlackDynamite** · #20 (**permalink**) 10-29-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by newone757

if you dont like it you have/had time to return it. stop cryin.

im pretty sure, (if you are smart anyways) you looked up or saw the stats on the phone before you blindly purchased it, you should have been able to tell what was upgraded and what is the same. on paper it s pretty much the same but a blind man can see this thing is definitly leaps and bounds over last years device. from responsiveness to volume to screen size and 3.5 jack, all around imporovement.

of course the os side is lacking but nothing a little hspl cant fix once released

Not that I disagree with the point you were making, BUT....

Technically Sprint gives you 30 days to return it, but then they hold your money for another 45 days after that (assuming you go to another carrier).

So in my case I just forked out 2 grand to get 4 Touch Pro 2's on a family plan. Now that I got them, I found out that Bing doesn't work correctly (I have been using a GSM version on AT&T and Bing worked great), and also the conference calling feature has been removed (I guess it doesn't work with CDMA). And there is really no way I could have known about this before hand, because no Sprint stores have the Touch Pro 2 in stock. The only way to see one is to actually order it.

So I could technically leave Sprint and get the T-Mobile version. But I'd have to fork out another 2 grand, while giving Sprint an interest free loan for 45 days.

I guess that is more a carrier issue than a device issue though. However, it does explain why returning it might not be as simple as you say.