Pro 2 is Also missing 3d accelaration. Confirmed!

[pbeaul]

Originally Posted by Exil3d

Would you buy a car without a engine? Sure you can say "its your choice to buy the car with or without the engine". And if you know it doesnt have a engine but you can push it then theres ppl who wanna push it. lol

Do you honestly feel you're making a remotely valid point here? If so, when did you drop out of school? That's seriously the most flawed comparison I've heard in a while.

It the car doesn't do what I need it to do... than I'm not buying it. Plain and simple.

I don't know about your experience with the touch pro 2, but mine has no problem making phone calls, keeping track of my appointments and it doesn't even have a problem displaying graphics on the screen (hint: it already has a graphics driver).

Anyways, I'm out... I can't be bothered arguing with people making these 4th grader comparisons.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by buddhatikkigod

yes technically they could start charging for driver and driver updates but its why we have competition. If BFG who sells Nvidia cards starting charging for driver updates then people would just switch to another company or if nvidia starting charging driver updates people would switch to ATI.

Youre not being forced to buy the HTC Touch Pro 2 if it really upsets you that HTC refuses to pay for the drivers then go buy an Iphone or an Omnia


this argument has just gotten surreal

The Omnia and the iPhone are not direct competitors with the TP2...If I got an Omnia Pro I might reconsider the TP2 if they do not release the drivers.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by pbeaul

Do you honestly feel you're making a remotely valid point here? If so, when did you drop out of school? That's seriously the most flawed comparison I've heard in a while.

It the car doesn't do what I need it to do... than I'm not buying it. Plain and simple.

I don't know about your experience with the touch pro 2, but mine has no problem making phone calls, keeping track of my appointments and it doesn't even have a problem displaying graphics on the screen (hint: it already has a graphics driver).

Anyways, I'm out... I can't be bothered arguing with people making these 4th grader comparisons.

I agree that Exil3d example wasn't the best but my guess is he said it without putting much thought into it.

As for the drivers, if you ahd them in your device you would instantly notice the difference and would never want to go back.

Also, I suggest you refrain from degrading a persons intelligence, that only means that you are unable able to prove your own point.

[buddhatikkigod]

Originally Posted by gTen

The Omnia and the iPhone are not direct competitors with the TP2...If I got an Omnia Pro I might reconsider the TP2 if they do not release the drivers.

Wow man you are messed up, so you are upset at HTC or Qualcomm for not including the 3d drivers, its not like they state theirs anything included that their isnt you know fully what youre getting before you buy it, i dont get why youre railing so hard on HTC. Dont buy the damn TP2 then... problem solved.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by pbeaul

Do you honestly feel you're making a remotely valid point here? If so, when did you drop out of school? That's seriously the most flawed comparison I've heard in a while.

It the car doesn't do what I need it to do... than I'm not buying it. Plain and simple.

I don't know about your experience with the touch pro 2, but mine has no problem making phone calls, keeping track of my appointments and it doesn't even have a problem displaying graphics on the screen (hint: it already has a graphics driver).

Anyways, I'm out... I can't be bothered arguing with people making these 4th grader comparisons.

Your comparing forks and spoons and eating on the floor, so i wouldnt start flaming genius. When the Mogul, kaiser,Pro and the rest of the new gens came out.. they indeed get labeled as Multimedia devices. Multimedia means across the board in pics,vids and 2d/3d rendering. Look at Best Buy.. they advertise this phone as a Multimedia Device. You fail to see you flaw and choose to insult after you compared this argument to eating on the floor.

PS. your (hint: already has driver) is not the proper driver. In case you missed the point.

[mike99]

While we are on the subject of drivers, do we know if the Omnia II/HD has the appropriate driver set?

And what about the Toshiba with Snapdragon just released in UK? Do we have any info whether Toshiba shelled out extra to buy the drivers from Qualcom?

Thanks.

Mike

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by gTen

I agree that Exil3d example wasn't the best but my guess is he said it without putting much thought into it.

As for the drivers, if you ahd them in your device you would instantly notice the difference and would never want to go back.

Also, I suggest you refrain from degrading a persons intelligence, that only means that you are unable able to prove your own point.

Your right. I did not give it much thought.. I did just babble it out. Its tiresome to keep proving to some members in how crucial it is to have drivers and how not having a defeated attitude towards accepting the device with no acceleration. Maybe I should have said "Would you buy a new car, drive it home and then realized it has a lawn mover engine and then be contempt?" After all.. its drivable and the dealer said its a good running car. But.... I wish it had a real engine but it does get me to work, should I complain?

PS. Thank you gTen, I never take insult over the internet so he can say what he wishes and let himself prove how ignorant he is. I've learned not to take baits from trolls.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by mike99

While we are on the subject of drivers, do we know if the Omnia II/HD has the appropriate driver set?

And what about the Toshiba with Snapdragon just released in UK? Do we have any info whether Toshiba shelled out extra to buy the drivers from Qualcom?

Thanks.

Mike

I have not done no research on those devices but maybe a simple youtube search would answer your question. But you bring up a very good question. What if companies start to see opportunities to make more cash by omitting crucial elements in future devices(proper drivers) and later release the next gen device but with drivers and called it "part 2". What if we being relaxed on the whole issue and giving HTC the pass actually will hurt us in the long run and be forced to accpet cripple devices because everyone is doing it? HTC should have been hammered and stopped as soon as the Mogul,Tilt and other MS72xx devices hit our shores by US not buying them. Instead we are paying the price by having next gen devices with the exact same problem and here we are in square one arguing "Should we care for drivers? After all.. HTC never said we can play XBOX." You guys see where I am coming from?

i am all for hardware aceleration and all, but this is the bottom line when it comes to this matter

Originally Posted by pbeaul

You're confusing your level of choice... you don't get to pick what HTC does or doesn't do with its device. Only whether or not you're going to purchase it.

[Exil3d]

Originally Posted by mike20pr

i am all for hardware acceleration and all, but this is the bottom line when it comes to this matter

I fully agree 100%. Its your choice in purchasing the device. But remember, every since the whole all in one cpu solution came abroad, this problem came along with it. This gives the manufacturer to enable and disable features on the CPU with all the core(gpu,audio,wifi, etc.) Then the manufacture can make button end PPC's and top end ppc's. You all clearly see this right? Ok.. not.. what did we buy? TOP-END Device.9This aint no flip phone) Why are they holding back on drivers? Simple... they got away with the 1st gen ppc's running on the MS72xx cpu and they know they can get away again. this could have been fixed on the first gen if we all refused to buy HTC as a collective group world wide. But we didn't. For what ever reason we still went out and bought them. I am guilty too. but I have firmly put my foot down and will never buy HTC until the Top -end devices are TOP-End like they advertise them.Now now.. all you trolls getting angry and spitting out (HTC never advertised this to play ps3! Htc has the right to give them or not give them.. you dont like? Then dont buy!") Remember.. we are buying the Top-End Model from HTC and they are still holding back... HTCCLASSACTION.ORG