Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1123631)

Ok it official! I finally tested both the tmobile and Telus Pro2. I spent about a good hour on both and tried igo, tom tom, livemaps, goofle maps, teeter, and a few other apps on it.

I playwd with the Tf3d2, tested ut, opened all the windows on WM 6.1 and scrolled around to test the 2d abilities. I tested the Camera with different formats and settings and took pics and vidsand opened up alot off apps to hog the memory and see thw performance hit and see if it bogs down.

So.... after doing all of than I came to a solid conclusion. There is no 3d accelaration. Its exactly the samme as thw Pro 2.

Tomtom,igo,live,googlemaps,opera9.5,PIE,teeter,fil e explorer, 6.1 in general scrooling arw 100% identical to Pro 1. I was expecting at least a bit smoother rendering since its Part 2 but no, we are getting the exact same deal as Pro1.

Ok, now on the positive side. Loud Speaker is better and louder. Screen is a bit more responsive to the touch but not by much. A fww times I did have to double tap to get a response. Camera is a bit better but still suffer the low light stutter we have with the Pro1.So going from bright to low light makes the video crawl bad.

The keyboard us the only feature that I really consider a good upgrade. Its actualky very very very nice and I can easily speed text without a priblem.The screen is also another great upgradeand it does not have the limited viewing problem some Touch ppcs had.

OVERALL THE SIze OF THE PHONE IS NOT THAT BIG, I was wxpecting a bigger phone so thats another plus. Another issue I noticed was thats it has 256 ram instead of 288 like the Pro 1. We went back again.

I did throw in the XDA drivers thats suppose to make it render better but I was dissapointed because it did not give the phone the boost I was hoping. It just made tf3d a bit faster nothing else. There was still that terrible 2d page twaring when browsing thru files using File Explorer. Very sad. I PLAYED A hD video on tcpmp (Wall-e) and to my surprise it bogged down a bit in a few scenes just like Pro did.

So finalized this, I am dissapointed greatly. Only was I will get ut is if Sprint swaps it for my Pro. Otherwise absolutely no way in hades.

Remember, bwfore anyone flames me.. this is solely my opinion and no one elses. Performance wise it its 3d and 2d abilities compared to the iphone its 30% of what the iphone renders in 2d and 3d. And dont flame me because Im comparing it to the iphone, I know sone of you hate to comoare anything to the iphone, but reality check... iphone sets the bar high in its 3d and 2d abilities and HTC should match it if hot surpassed it by now.

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1124021)

Ok.... since we are all in a good foot. I will admit this. It should go on my confession thread but i will just say it here. And its nothing new..... I have said it in the past and will say it again now. I will get the PRO 2 but I will not pay 1 dime for it. My pro one does not charge when I am using GPS on trips because it get soo hot it can possible make in infertile if its in my pocket and 1/4 of my calls always go directly to my voicebox specially on weekends and Sprint nows this. And also... KB just dies on me last week. So I wont go in and turn it in for repairs. i will use it as ammo to get the PRO 2 for free. So dont think that i completely hate the PRo 2, just that I refuse to spend 1 more penny of cripple hardware. SICK OF IT! heheheh

Originally Posted by kidmet (Post 1124937)

In the same boat. broken KB. Waiting for the pro2 to launch and hoping to get it free. This will be my 4th KB death.

Originally Posted by TheBundo (Post 1124433)

Is this a thread for little gamer kids instead of businessmen, who this phone was meant for? Meaningless to me, all the heavy business users I know with iPhones end up envying my Mogul. I can't wait for the TP2

Originally Posted by jethro_static (Post 1124701)

Well like I said. It cannot be compared to PSP. And only Tegra can match it if not top it. And I forgot TG01. It has a solid GPU but I don't think they have the drivers. Palm pre is crippled too even thou it has a solid hardware. Well HTC just beat Iphone 3G on paper. Not at all. the iPhone 3GS has an ARM Cortex A8 CPU, which is twice as fast clock-for-clock than ARM11 CPUs like the Qualcomm MSM7200 (used by HTC) and the Samsung chip in the iPhone 3G. The 3GS is roughly 2.2x faster than the MSM7200 in general CPU performance, around 50x faster in floating-point operations (MSM7200 lacks hardware VFP and so relies on a WM DLL to handle FPU ops), with a graphics chip that's >10x faster.

Since the iPhone/iPhone 3G has a hardware VFP, it's around 20-25x faster clock-for-clock at floating-point ops (which iPhone OS uses pretty heavily but WinMo doesn't at all, as it's optimized for the ancient ARMv5 instruction set-- some native WM apps can make use of it if present, though).

Originally Posted by kidmet (Post 1124937)

In the same boat. broken KB. Waiting for the pro2 to launch and hoping to get it free. This will be my 4th KB death.

Originally Posted by jrog27 (Post 1124026)

You texting Exil3d right now on yalls iphone's? Get a room!

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1126983)

Has anyone else been able to confirm the missing accelaration like I did. Its critical to have other back up my finding so the ppl who still refuse to accept the fact that its still not accelarated can finally get the truth.

Originally Posted by Exil3d (Post 1126983)

Has anyone else been able to confirm the missing accelaration like I did. Its critical to have other back up my finding so the ppl who still refuse to accept the fact that its still not accelarated can finally get the truth.