Good time to leave TP2?

[vonnieglen]

I received my first Ebay Touch Pro 2 yesterday. The seller did an incredible job of detailing the phone... there was not a fingerprint let alone a scratch on. I assume it was a hardly used return. I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I could not be happier.

It came with the stock WM6.1 rom. It activated with no problems using the automated system. I spent the rest of the day going through the manual and verifying that all of the features were working properly. The only glitch if you want to call it that was that someone removed the Sprint Global Sim card. I was thinking it might be useful for future mods so I ordered one for $9. I only paid $109 and $8 shipping for the phone from a reputable dealer who I have purchased several other phones from over the years.

I am especially impressed with the quallity of the speaker phone. The reception of the phone is also better than what we are used to. We live in an outlying area and normally it is difficult to make a call from certain parts of the house, but the Touch Pro 2 works everywhere. The call quallity is very good, and the phone feels very solid.

I ran a lot of the applications that came with the stock ROM yesterday. For someone who has been browsing with an Apache (PPC-6700) going from a 240x320 screen to 480x800 screen is amazing. Browsing is a whole new experience and watching video literally is like going from a standard TV to HD. The only browsing issue I ran into was of course when I went to websites using Flash content causing the Flash light version in the browsers to run out of memory. I have been running WM6.5 on the Apache so I was curious if the TP2 with it's greater resources would handle this issue better.

As Chardog pointed out... the feedback for this phone on the Sprint Website is currently just atrocious. A few weeks ago that wasn't the case. I am at a loss to explain it. I am extremely impressed with the phone. To me it feels like a very high quallity item. It almost makes me wonder if Sprint isn't gaming the system to steer people away from the phone.

After I master the features of the phone in it's stock configuration... I am looking forward to updating it to get even more out of it. At this point I couldn't be happier!

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by vonnieglen

I received my first Ebay Touch Pro 2 yesterday. The seller did an incredible job of detailing the phone... there was not a fingerprint let alone a scratch on. I assume it was a hardly used return. I know I am preaching to the choir here, but I could not be happier.

It came with the stock WM6.1 rom. It activated with no problems using the automated system. I spent the rest of the day going through the manual and verifying that all of the features were working properly. The only glitch if you want to call it that was that someone removed the Sprint Global Sim card. I was thinking it might be useful for future mods so I ordered one for $9. I only paid $109 and $8 shipping for the phone from a reputable dealer who I have purchased several other phones from over the years.

I am especially impressed with the quallity of the speaker phone. The reception of the phone is also better than what we are used to. We live in an outlying area and normally it is difficult to make a call from certain parts of the house, but the Touch Pro 2 works everywhere. The call quallity is very good, and the phone feels very solid.

I ran a lot of the applications that came with the stock ROM yesterday. For someone who has been browsing with an Apache (PPC-6700) going from a 240x320 screen to 480x800 screen is amazing. Browsing is a whole new experience and watching video literally is like going from a standard TV to HD. The only browsing issue I ran into was of course when I went to websites using Flash content causing the Flash light version in the browsers to run out of memory. I have been running WM6.5 on the Apache so I was curious if the TP2 with it's greater resources would handle this issue better.

As Chardog pointed out... the feedback for this phone on the Sprint Website is currently just atrocious. A few weeks ago that wasn't the case. I am at a loss to explain it. I am extremely impressed with the phone. To me it feels like a very high quallity item. It almost makes me wonder if Sprint isn't gaming the system to steer people away from the phone.

After I master the features of the phone in it's stock configuration... I am looking forward to updating it to get even more out of it. At this point I couldn't be happier!

yea the stock 6.1 rom is an excellent rom and it gets better when u install the tweaks cab in the cleanup section. and if u still want 6.1 but a newer version of sense u can go with the sprint basics rom, in additon to updating sense and adding more RAM u also get a newer WM build 21057 vs stock 21052. and when u finally decide to take the plunge to 6.5 avoid the stock sprint rom, its extremely buggy and is the reason for all the bad reviews on the sprint site (which chardog doesnt seem to understand) the 6.5 roms i reccommend are the LEAD ROM,vin's neodium, the kenio ROM, all of these run at stability similar to the stock 6.1 tho i havent tried the kenio ROM yet but ive heard that its pretty good.

[vonnieglen]

Originally Posted by eric12341

yea the stock 6.1 rom is an excellent rom and it gets better when u install the tweaks cab in the cleanup section. and if u still want 6.1 but a newer version of sense u can go with the sprint basics rom, in additon to updating sense and adding more RAM u also get a newer WM build 21057 vs stock 21052. and when u finally decide to take the plunge to 6.5 avoid the stock sprint rom, its extremely buggy and is the reason for all the bad reviews on the sprint site (which chardog doesnt seem to understand) the 6.5 roms i reccommend are the LEAD ROM,vin's neodium, the kenio ROM, all of these run at stability similar to the stock 6.1 tho i havent tried the kenio ROM yet but ive heard that its pretty good.

The second TP2 I purchased on Ebay arrived today; I was a little bit dissapointed. I paid significantly more for this phone because the seller said that it had only been used a month and was in immaculate condition. It must have been a hard month. Personally, I plan on keeping my phones a long time, so I use things like screen protectors and snap-on plastic cases to protect my phones. Not everyone else does this. The other phone is in significantly better shape. This one came with the SIM card for international use, it also activated with no problems, so I will count my blessings.

This phone had the stock Sprint 6.5 rom and I am guessing that the previous owner had some difficulties. All of the settings had been messed with; I had to do a hard reset to get it working right. There have been no problems since. I am planning on trying some of the other ROMs to avoid the difficulties with the stock Sprint 6.5 rom that have been described by others. So Eric thank you very much for the suggestions.

This phone is for my wife and she is very happy with it despite being used to carrying the much smaller A-900 Blade. She started working with the browsers, the calendar, and games. She had nothing but smiles.

I have played a bit with the 4g phones at the Sprint store and also with my friends phones at work. There is no way that I could justify giving up my old plan and doubling the cost of my service for occasional 4g speeds, more memory and processor power. Smarter people than me have spent a lot of time figuring out ways to get the most out of their TP2s and have shared their knowledge on the forums. This makes the phone more valuable; it is one of the reasons that I was able to stick with a PPC-6700 for 5 years.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by vonnieglen

The second TP2 I purchased on Ebay arrived today; I was a little bit dissapointed. I paid significantly more for this phone because the seller said that it had only been used a month and was in immaculate condition. It must have been a hard month. Personally, I plan on keeping my phones a long time, so I use things like screen protectors and snap-on plastic cases to protect my phones. Not everyone else does this. The other phone is in significantly better shape. This one came with the SIM card for international use, it also activated with no problems, so I will count my blessings.

This phone had the stock Sprint 6.5 rom and I am guessing that the previous owner had some difficulties. All of the settings had been messed with; I had to do a hard reset to get it working right. There have been no problems since. I am planning on trying some of the other ROMs to avoid the difficulties with the stock Sprint 6.5 rom that have been described by others. So Eric thank you very much for the suggestions.

This phone is for my wife and she is very happy with it despite being used to carrying the much smaller A-900 Blade. She started working with the browsers, the calendar, and games. She had nothing but smiles.

I have played a bit with the 4g phones at the Sprint store and also with my friends phones at work. There is no way that I could justify giving up my old plan and doubling the cost of my service for occasional 4g speeds, more memory and processor power. Smarter people than me have spent a lot of time figuring out ways to get the most out of their TP2s and have shared their knowledge on the forums. This makes the phone more valuable; it is one of the reasons that I was able to stick with a PPC-6700 for 5 years.

u can stay with that stock ROM just to see how problematic it is. i don't get how Sprint could've released it knowing there was so many issues with it and if u try to mention that to them they will sound dumbfounded and try to replace the phone. if they released this ROM to keep people away from this phone it certainly is working. don't know y there's so much animosity towards MS products out there.

[gTen]

Originally Posted by eric12341

u can stay with that stock ROM just to see how problematic it is. i don't get how Sprint could've released it knowing there was so many issues with it and if u try to mention that to them they will sound dumbfounded and try to replace the phone. if they released this ROM to keep people away from this phone it certainly is working. don't know y there's so much animosity towards MS products out there.

The answer is simple..

1) It wasn't their concern at the time..they only made the phone to appease business owners and they were all high on the Pre...I remember calling to order my TP2 and I went through like 10 rotations of Pre advertisement instead of music..I almost wanted to shoot myself :/

2) HTC was to cheap to license 3d and direct draw drivers...which is a HUGE part to the slowness..I mean even if we had the drivers you'd see new life in the TP2 just from that..the HD2 for example when first release ran sluggish as it could get even with the 1ghz cpu...after they gave the drivers that thing began to run super smooth..while the TP2 is no HD2 the drivers make a HUGE difference...