Good time to leave TP2?

[quick99si]

Originally Posted by warheed

I have the 2 year premier everything data contract. I started it with my TP2 on 1/1/10. They said the best they could do for me was to move my upgrade from 1/1/11 to 12/17/10. That's crazy people have got their upgrade half a year early! Unless you're talking about 4-6 months before their 2 year anniversary.

I don't think they necessarily "move up" your upgrade eligibility date, instead they likely offer a concession as a goodwill credit. If this is the case, then whether they do it for you or not may be a function of the rep's mood, the cost of your plan, how long your account has been open, etc..

My SERO plan has received no such love lol

[beefcakeb0]

Originally Posted by eric12341

and u must smoke some good stuff if u think that phone with a smaller scree with a lower resolution can be better than one with higher resolution screen, ur pics and videos will look like u are looking at them through the screen of a screen door. how can anyone be satisfied with that? only a fandroid who is blind to the fragmentation thats about to be caused by such devices . ¿cómo lo ves desgraciado cobarde inmundo?

Wait, can you elaborate on this screen door photo issue?

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by beefcakeb0

Wait, can you elaborate on this screen door photo issue?

its just what the resolution of an HVGA or QVGA screen looks like when compared to a WVGA or VGA screen.

[vonnieglen]

I guess you could say that I am a slow adopter. I purchased a PPC-6700, a Samsung a920 and a Samsung a-900 when they first came out. They have served us well. We have a fair and flexible family plan with free unlimited 3g data and a 20% employee discount. With all taxes included our bill for the three phones comes to about $90 a month. We usually don't, but if we go over our 800 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds a 100 minutes. After we get to 1100 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds 200 minutes. The plan fits us very well.

I am still happy with the PPC-6700... it came with a data cable and sprint technical support originally told me how to tether. I have had a lot of fun using the kitchen to modifying it and getting it set up the way that I like. It is fun to have a five year old PPC that I can do more with than many people can with their new phones.

I probably would not be upgrading but my wife decided she wanted an upgrade to her A-900 after she knocked it out the car door and drug it two blocks by it's charger cord. It still works fine but it is looking pretty ragged. We went to the Sprint store and discovered that the best phone we could get and still keep our fair and flexible plan was the TP2. I can't justify adding an extra $60, $70 or more a month to our family budget for a couple of EVOs. We bought a couple of TP2s on Ebay (I am still keeping my A-920 for my beater phone). I am studying the forums for customization tips. This has been a very entertaining thread for me. We are very excited waiting for our TP2s to show up. One person's obsolete phone can be another person's dream phone I guess.

[chardog]

Originally Posted by quick99si

I was at a BBQ sometime in June and a few of us put our phones on the wooden deck railing. There were 6 TP2's side by side on 3 different carriers.

The same group of friends was recently together and I noticed that we were down to one Touch Pro 2. The overwhelming sentiment was that the new devices, all running Android OS, were a significant improvement over the TP2.

The last TP2 is mine, and it continues to be mine after having tried the Epic for a couple of weeks. So from that anecdote, I'm inclined to conclude that the newer devices are better for some and not for others (or at least me). It remains unfortunate that this concept is difficult to grasp for some people, and even moreso that these same people feel compelled to sway the opinion of the masses with their tiny slice of bias-reinforcing experience.

the only reason it's not better for you is because you're on SERO, and not ready to bite the bullet. There are plenty of people in your boat, and I being one of them, since I have a lot of bills, and dont like to justify a price increase on anything (I'm pretty damn frugal).

But there was a turning point when my phone failed on critical instances. I am privileged to work anywhere I want, and when my phone started to fail when my boss contacts me, that's pretty huge since I occasionally deal with mission critical server issues.

there is no question there are better phones out there that trump the tp2 in almost every single way, like the iphone 4. If the iphone 4 were available on sprint(and sero users) @ the same price as the tp2, I'm positive it would sell at a ratio of 100 to 1 compared to the tp2.

a biased reinforced opinion doesnt necessarily mean it's wrong btw. For you, the TP2 is the best phone out, and you have no choice but to stick with it.

saying that the tp2 vs android vs apple debate is subjective is a little misleading.

Here is a more simplistic analogy: who is hotter? Sarah Jessica Parker(TP2) vs Candice Swanepoel (Android) or alessandra ambrosio(Apple)... the only reason you would care for parker is because she's loaded.

Originally Posted by vonnieglen

I guess you could say that I am a slow adopter. I purchased a PPC-6700, a Samsung a920 and a Samsung a-900 when they first came out. They have served us well. We have a fair and flexible family plan with free unlimited 3g data and a 20% employee discount. With all taxes included our bill for the three phones comes to about $90 a month. We usually don't, but if we go over our 800 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds a 100 minutes. After we get to 1100 minutes Sprint charges $5 and adds 200 minutes. The plan fits us very well.

I am still happy with the PPC-6700... it came with a data cable and sprint technical support originally told me how to tether. I have had a lot of fun using the kitchen to modifying it and getting it set up the way that I like. It is fun to have a five year old PPC that I can do more with than many people can with their new phones.

I probably would not be upgrading but my wife decided she wanted an upgrade to her A-900 after she knocked it out the car door and drug it two blocks by it's charger cord. It still works fine but it is looking pretty ragged. We went to the Sprint store and discovered that the best phone we could get and still keep our fair and flexible plan was the TP2. I can't justify adding an extra $60, $70 or more a month to our family budget for a couple of EVOs. We bought a couple of TP2s on Ebay (I am still keeping my A-920 for my beater phone). I am studying the forums for customization tips. This has been a very entertaining thread for me. We are very excited waiting for our TP2s to show up. One person's obsolete phone can be another person's dream phone I guess.

you're a slow adopter. The tp2 is around 150 used, but I wouldnt be so fast to get it if the ppc 6700 works for you. I have a ppc 6700, and I've fiddled with it. Fairly responsive minus the eye candy and some apps. if you dont care for all the social apps and integration, and care only about a functional phone with emails and text, the 6700 might be the way to go. the lightweight interface keeps it snappy, where the tp2 gets kinda laggy.

It was a downgrade for me, upgrading from a motorola q9c. Constant tweaks to get this thing up to the stability of the q9c, which wasnt very stable to start with. I had lowered expectations moving from one WM os to the other. I understand that price is a factor in moving towards modern devices, hence my wife is using a feature phone on sero...... I've encouraged her to stick with it, rather than to have major frustrations most wm users have.

I'm in another country and using a sim card, so I had to use my pair of iphones. It's my wife's first time using it, and she's fine with it. It gets the WAF(wife approval factor) award. If I gave her the tp2, she'd probably have switched to a feature phone.

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

[vonnieglen]

Originally Posted by chardog

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

These phones and the discussions here remind me a great deal of the computers that I messed with in the early 1980s. I purchased the Timex-Sinclair, the TI-99-4a, the VIC 20, the Commodore 64s, the Atari 2600, the Apples, the Spectravideo SV-328, various Radio Shack computers, and of course the first XT clone that I built from parts. I am a bit of a hoarder and still have working examples of nearly all the above mentioned computers. I can still remember debating the various merits of each with my friends at the time. It may seem a little funny now, but our discussions could sometimes become fairly heated.

It is good to appreciate the merits of all of the amazing devices that we are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to use and enjoy. Fred Sanford, from the 70s television show Sanford and Son said, "An old woman is like a tube of tooth paste... You can always squeeze out just a little bit more." These computer/phones are like that. Someone will always be able to figure out how to get just a little bit more out of them. Some end up being more memorable than others.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by vonnieglen

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

These phones and the discussions here remind me a great deal of the computers that I messed with in the early 1980s. I purchased the Timex-Sinclair, the TI-99-4a, the VIC 20, the Commodore 64s, the Atari 2600, the Apples, the Spectravideo SV-328, various Radio Shack computers, and of course the first XT clone that I built from parts. I am a bit of a hoarder and still have working examples of nearly all the above mentioned computers. I can still remember debating the various merits of each with my friends at the time. It may seem a little funny now, but our discussions could sometimes become fairly heated.

It is good to appreciate the merits of all of the amazing devices that we are fortunate enough to be given the opportunity to use and enjoy. Fred Sanford, from the 70s television show Sanford and Son said, "An old woman is like a tube of tooth paste... You can always squeeze out just a little bit more." These computer/phones are like that. Someone will always be able to figure out how to get just a little bit more out of them. Some end up being more memorable than others.

dont listen to chardog he is a known troll and an MS hater,i find it funny how 90% of us on this site haven't experienced the same problems with WM that he's had. go for the TP2,its way better than the vogue (touch) that u have now. or u can wait for the sprint wp7 pro (working title) which will take advantage of the Ev Rev.B upgrade.

[eric12341]

Originally Posted by chardog

the only reason it's not better for you is because you're on SERO, and not ready to bite the bullet. There are plenty of people in your boat, and I being one of them, since I have a lot of bills, and dont like to justify a price increase on anything (I'm pretty damn frugal).

But there was a turning point when my phone failed on critical instances. I am privileged to work anywhere I want, and when my phone started to fail when my boss contacts me, that's pretty huge since I occasionally deal with mission critical server issues.

there is no question there are better phones out there that trump the tp2 in almost every single way, like the iphone 4. If the iphone 4 were available on sprint(and sero users) @ the same price as the tp2, I'm positive it would sell at a ratio of 100 to 1 compared to the tp2.

a biased reinforced opinion doesnt necessarily mean it's wrong btw. For you, the TP2 is the best phone out, and you have no choice but to stick with it.

saying that the tp2 vs android vs apple debate is subjective is a little misleading.

Here is a more simplistic analogy: who is hotter? Sarah Jessica Parker(TP2) vs Candice Swanepoel (Android) or alessandra ambrosio(Apple)... the only reason you would care for parker is because she's loaded.

you're a slow adopter. The tp2 is around 150 used, but I wouldnt be so fast to get it if the ppc 6700 works for you. I have a ppc 6700, and I've fiddled with it. Fairly responsive minus the eye candy and some apps. if you dont care for all the social apps and integration, and care only about a functional phone with emails and text, the 6700 might be the way to go. the lightweight interface keeps it snappy, where the tp2 gets kinda laggy.

It was a downgrade for me, upgrading from a motorola q9c. Constant tweaks to get this thing up to the stability of the q9c, which wasnt very stable to start with. I had lowered expectations moving from one WM os to the other. I understand that price is a factor in moving towards modern devices, hence my wife is using a feature phone on sero...... I've encouraged her to stick with it, rather than to have major frustrations most wm users have.

I'm in another country and using a sim card, so I had to use my pair of iphones. It's my wife's first time using it, and she's fine with it. It gets the WAF(wife approval factor) award. If I gave her the tp2, she'd probably have switched to a feature phone.

ultimately, you will have a modern looking device, that does not quite live up to modern phone standards, and compares quite poorly in comparison. Not much of an upgrade from your ppc 6700.

otra vez con lo mismo ehh?

[horndoctor]

Wirelessly posted (htc Pocket PC: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) Sprint MP6950SP)

I agree with eric.
Except I think he has an Apache which was and probably still is a great device but it is dated because of many things like screen size and resolution plus it is very big and clumsy in my opinion. The Touch Pro2 is definitely an upgrade.

[chardog]

Originally Posted by vonnieglen

Thanks so much for the response. I have been very happy with my ppc-6700. It is quite amazing to me that a 5 year old device stacks up as well as it does against my friends' newer toys. I have been able to squeeze so much out of it. From a functional standpoint at this point it is just a tool that I use to get the most out of the old cell plan that we have managed to keep for the last several years. I sure hate to give up the free unlimited data and other benefits that the retention people have so generously given us over the years along with the plans advertised advantage - no real penalties for going over our alloted minutes.

I am hoping mostly just for a better internet browsing experience on the larger screen of the TP2 for those times when I don't have a laptop with me. But I am also looking for some new challenges. I started customizing the ppc-6700 the first day that I got it. I am sure the TP2 has a lot of hidden gems to uncover. I am also looking forward to messing around with running android from the memory card. That would seem to give almost unlimited opportunities for cell phone adventures.

The TP2 has a decent browser, but it's inability to link to youtube videos is pretty annoying(for a so called modern phone).

It also has a resistive screen similar to your 6700, but bigger and able to play encoded videos. It's much more of a powerhouse phone than your 6700, but the software is very bulky, and the swipe movement is slow. It feels like you're running a PC with not enough ram, rather than a smartphone.

you'll have much better wifi signal than your 6700, and you should use it as much as possible. Going to android from the TP2 would probably solve a lot of issues as well as create a bunch. Android does not natively sync with outlook.

Figure this, you've got a slightly higher power phone, and you're upgrading from your Windows XP desktop to your Windows Vista desktop. By most accounts, vista was a failure on the part of M$. Half assed product.

Welcome to the TP2, another M$ half assed product
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-...ht=sleep+death