Should the chefs start helping Android?

[kidwolf908]

Originally Posted by sjs01

Not all chefs are devs, some don't code and do all the stuff needed to port Android. Also, I know it seems like a lot would switch to android, but I'm not not all, I'm sure there would be a ton of people staying with Windows Mobile. All these chefs actually make it usable, I'm sure there are some features left on Windows Mobile that Android doesn't have and that probably would keep some from switching.

Originally Posted by aiiee

I guess I'm with the stick-it-out-until-Win7 crowd. Heard bad stories about Android's reliability and I'm very happy with my WinMo phone *now* . Personally, I've got 10 months to make up my mind...

You guys must have better TP2's or better ROM's than I do because mine is god awful at the moment. My text entry in an SMS gets up to 40-50 characters behind what I'm typing. And randomly, my WM will just start dumping battery power like mad. I don't have any exchange servers set up and I have 2 e-mail accounts sync every 30 minutes, yet my battery will randomly heat up and dump 10-15% in 15 minutes even when the device is "asleep."

Also, why stick it out til WP7? Maybe our chefs will get it running on the TP2, but it will undoubtedly be just as sluggish as WM6.5 w/ Sense. Not to mention, WP7 removes a ton of the great things that I still love about WinMo (undetected tethering, modifying the UI, etc.)

I'm not trying to start a battle by any means, I just don't see any improvement in WinMo since the ROM I was on back in April except for the headway that the Android port has made since then.

Originally Posted by lipidfats

I can't tell if you're speaking about Android-specific devices or Android on tp2.... if it's the former, then you're incorrect. Android has already reached reliable status and is very enjoyable (i use both an EVO 4G and TP2). Yes, 1GHz helps, but the ease of use for Android to do many of the same things that WinMo can do is really sweet. The support from devs makes it even better because it takes u to new heights that WinMo never reached because of lack of development.

You're right, it's not about being cool, it's about being reliable and in my experience this past month, Android is cool and reliable. Not sure where you're getting that WinMo is more reliable? In what way?

If HTC put an official version of Android on the tp2 hardware (not the hacked crap), it would be a lot less sluggish. The HD2 with its 1ghz cpu still gets the little waiting cursor when opening apps... wtf.

My point exactly. Thus the question about encouraging some chefs (or ANYONE really) to help get the Android port more bug-free and usable.

[sjs01]

Originally Posted by kidwolf908

You guys must have better TP2's or better ROM's than I do because mine is god awful at the moment. My text entry in an SMS gets up to 40-50 characters behind what I'm typing. And randomly, my WM will just start dumping battery power like mad. I don't have any exchange servers set up and I have 2 e-mail accounts sync every 30 minutes, yet my battery will randomly heat up and dump 10-15% in 15 minutes even when the device is "asleep."

I didn't say that my Phone doesn't have issues, but it's sure much better then it was when I had a Stock ROM on it. The chefs actually made it usable. I do have these issues, my text lags a lot, I also don't use exchange servers. I like android sure, but what I was saying is that not all the chefs are devs too. They can't just start porting android with no knowledge of it. We also shouldn't be telling these chefs what they should or shouldn't be doing, they're taking there time to make these ROM's with no expectations of anything.

It's not just easy to learn how to port android onto a phone. It's not that easy, if it was it probably would have been done by now. What bored was saying is that if you really want Android on this phone so bad, why don't you start porting it, rather then saying what other people should do.

I would sure love to see Android fully ported to this phone, but that doesn't mean we should just tell the chefs what they should and shouldn't be doing.

[Scenemaker]

Apparently cooking ROMs and writing code are one in the same... And...writing device drivers for linux is definitely something a cook who uses a visual kitchen to create a ROM can do with ease.

[JDM_SOHC]

Originally Posted by Scenemaker

Apparently cooking ROMs and writing code are one in the same... And...writing device drivers for linux is definitely something a cook who uses a visual kitchen to create a ROM can do with ease.

Sounds highly unlikely to me... If writing codes were as simple as cooking ROM's, and the assumed bounty had been offered (like it already has) I think we would have had an excellent Android OS already ported for us WinMo users... But since it hasn't quite worked out like that, I doubt it's that simple...

[sjs01]

Originally Posted by JDM_SOHC

Sounds highly unlikely to me... If writing codes were as simple as cooking ROM's, and the assumed bounty had been offered (like it already has) I think we would have had an excellent Android OS already ported for us WinMo users... But since it hasn't quite worked out like that, I doubt it's that simple...

I believe he was being totally sarcastic trying to show the OP how chefs can't just port android that simply... That's all his point was. Because apparently the OP thinks that porting android is pretty simple.

[kidwolf908]

Originally Posted by sjs01

I believe he was being totally sarcastic trying to show the OP how chefs can't just port android that simply... That's all his point was. Because apparently the OP thinks that porting android is pretty simple.

The OP (being myself) doesn't think it is that simple. The OP (myself) simply thought that the assistance of some WM chefs might help move the ball forward a little on the few remaining issues in Android since the remaining issues have ties back to how WM does things.

[sjs01]

Originally Posted by kidwolf908

The OP (being myself) doesn't think it is that simple. The OP (myself) simply thought that the assistance of some WM chefs might help move the ball forward a little on the few remaining issues in Android since the remaining issues have ties back to how WM does things.

I'm sorry, from your posts it looked like you thought it was just simple to port android, and seemed like you thought the Chefs should just start doing everything we say. Your first posts didn't seem like all you wanted the Chefs to do is move the ball forward, it seemed like you wanted them to drop what they were doing to work on android.

[JDM_SOHC]

Originally Posted by sjs01

I'm sorry, from your posts it looked like you thought it was just simple to port android, and seemed like you thought the Chefs should just start doing everything we say. Your first posts didn't seem like all you wanted the Chefs to do is move the ball forward, it seemed like you wanted them to drop what they were doing to work on android.

x2 on that

[kidwolf908]

Originally Posted by sjs01

I'm sorry, from your posts it looked like you thought it was just simple to port android, and seemed like you thought the Chefs should just start doing everything we say. Your first posts didn't seem like all you wanted the Chefs to do is move the ball forward, it seemed like you wanted them to drop what they were doing to work on android.

My bad. I have edited my initial post to reflect my intentions.

I don't think chefs should stop doing anything. Cooking is (obviously) their passion and should continue to be. However, I think with their assistance, we could make the TP2 and even greater device by adding the diversity and functionality of Android OS.

[Scenemaker]

Originally Posted by JDM_SOHC

Sounds highly unlikely to me... If writing codes were as simple as cooking ROM's, and the assumed bounty had been offered (like it already has) I think we would have had an excellent Android OS already ported for us WinMo users... But since it hasn't quite worked out like that, I doubt it's that simple...

You failed to detect my sarcasm, sir.