Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

I believe he was being totally sarcastic trying to show the OP how chefs can't just port android that simply... That's all his point was. Because apparently the OP thinks that porting android is pretty simple.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

This is not something that I am implying at all.

The few remaining issues with Android being fully functional have to do with portions of code that WM uses. Therefore, I thought it might be beneficial if some of our more experienced and knowledgeable chefs take a look at some of the code in their ROM's (such as the WM audio driver, camera driver, BT stack, etc.)

I apologize for stirring up everyone's emotional ties to WinMo, I was simply trying to bring up a possibility that may not have occurred to anyone yet.

I am very appreciative of the chefs and all that they have done. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE that without the cooked ROMs, the TP2 would be a much more buggy and slow device. However, I feel that in the past few months, noticeable improvements in ALL WinMo ROMs have been few and far between, which is why I thought it might be a good time to call WM good and be done with it.

Who knows, maybe I am just flashing the wrong ROM's. I've been using X ROM exclusively since April... I guess I should check out some of the others like Vin's ROM.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

The OP (being myself) doesn't think it is that simple. The OP (myself) simply thought that the assistance of some WM chefs might help move the ball forward a little on the few remaining issues in Android since the remaining issues have ties back to how WM does things.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

I'm sorry, from your posts it looked like you thought it was just simple to port android, and seemed like you thought the Chefs should just start doing everything we say. Your first posts didn't seem like all you wanted the Chefs to do is move the ball forward, it seemed like you wanted them to drop what they were doing to work on android.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

x2 on that

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

My bad. I have edited my initial post to reflect my intentions.

I don't think chefs should stop doing anything. Cooking is (obviously) their passion and should continue to be. However, I think with their assistance, we could make the TP2 and even greater device by adding the diversity and functionality of Android OS.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

Not to be a **** or anything, but have you ever personally "cooked" a rom for WM? The cooks don't necessarily do it the same way you or I might, but after the various build and Manila versions taken from other similar devices (these don't come in easy-to-use packages found within the "Kitchen"), I think customization and optimization become the main focus for our chefs (regsitry entries, applications, themes/startup screens, Manila/speed/power tweaks, etc..). I don't mean to oversimplify what they do because if making quality and stable roms were easy, we'd all be running our own crap ;) It takes time, patience, plenty of updating, and lots of testing to make a rom worth running more than two hours.

Now consider porting an entire operating system to a specific hardware set and decompiling drivers while tracing events and fuctions through both the code and harware drivers... it's a very different animal from WM roms. The sticking point right now is the sound (read about it in the Andoir subforum). I've looked at a several functions and proposed fixes in the Android forums, and it's definitely while almost infinitely more involved than cooking roms (coming from 6+ years of C/C++). I'm not familiar with any of the cooks' programming backgrounds and for all I know they may be perfect for the job; I'm just saying that cooking roms and porting Android and don't have much in common in terms of knowledge and experience necessary for success.

It's similar to asking your surgeon to perform an engine transplant on your car.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

I'm not saying they will be able to do it either. I'm just saying that out of all of us, the cooks are probably the more technically inclined and coule therefore, probably, offer the most help.

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

Re: Should the chefs start helping Android?
 

You failed to detect my sarcasm, sir.