**BLACK HOLE 4 ANYTHING: WM 6-7, Android, sense, opinions, general gripes, off topic*

[JHComputerGuy]

Originally Posted by Kliptik

We sell boxes!!!

^ to keep up the randomness of the thread...

Nice, keep it up..

[Wesley762]

Originally Posted by Kliptik

We sell boxes!!!

^ to keep up the randomness of the thread...

We don't need any stinking boxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just playing.

What we do need is a TP2 with a 1.2Ghz Dual core with triple the memory and we would be set lol.

[redd214]

i posted this in another thread, its more about microsoft as a whole but i think it will find a good home in this thread

heres my take (sorry for the length)

i can agree that wm(wp7 whatever) will never gain back the marketshare it once enjoyed but i think microsoft as a whole is in trouble as well. there just isnt enough innovation and synergy between all their product lines.

as much as people on this site rag on apple/macs/iphones, no one can deny that they know what theyre doing. as draconian as some of their policies are itunes really is an awesome concept. phone/mp3 player/tablet/mac all plug into the same ecosystem. with microsoft you have some much different crap that doesnt work together its ridiculous. windows live, zune, xbox (live), wm all are pretty much on thier own for the most part with no real connection to one another.

look at google EVERYTHING works together. all the google apps, android, chrome, all one big happy seamless family. m$ is trying i guess to bring everything under one roof with wp7 but i was just reading that there will be 2 markets, one for zune & apps and a whole different one for xbox live. granted people in the know (us) probably wont have an issue with it but for the avg yuppie iphone user (which is who they want) it really isnt gonna cut it.

next indicator of the fall of babylon is the kin phones. now i fully understand who these phones are marketed for but really come on m$. we were hearing about the 'project pink' phones for what like 3 yrs and this is the result?!?! are they smartphones or feature phones? seems like they have an identity crisis. but with now 'apps', no market, very little integration with their other brands, what kind of success can they really expect from these. add in the fact that you are looking at a minimum $70 or $80 plan for a phone marketed to teens that are most likely on their parents plan and you have a recipe for massive amounts of fail.

and whether any of us care to acknowledge it or not the ipad has brought tablets to the forefront and imo its no fad, their gonna be around and they will get better. then they decide to kill off one of their most anticipated projects, the courier, wtf microsoft. then a couple days ago one of their vps saying it was too early to say tablets will catch on and become a valid and unique segment of the PC market. well if you wait to see if they catch on by then its too late dummy! the ipad sold 2 million in 2 months, every day it seems theres a new tablet being talked about running android, yeah i think theyll catch on steve.

another thing to add in after seeing that. marketing. apple=amazing, google=getting there, microsoft=meh... as much as i hated those theres an app for that commercials they were highly effective, str8 forward, to the point. those winmo commericals the had with people in "excel" and "word" costumes were just plain bizzare

sorry for the doom n gloom essay but i think the redmond folk are in some trouble over the next few years and it goes way beyond just windows mobile 6.5.111993030....

[PropagandaX]

wm7 sucks. I dont need to see anymore. Everything i have seen is crap..."Ay" i feel so much better now.

[Wesley762]

Great writeup. reminds me of those MSN watches those things where just well ya.

[redd214]

Originally Posted by Wesley762

Great writeup. reminds me of those MSN watches those things where just well ya.

thank you, and to think all that came to me on the crapper one day lol! isnt that always where the best ideas come from hahah

[one80oneday]

If they can release windows phone 7 in India which only requires 128mb of RAM, why couldn't it run on TP2?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/5808152.cms

[joe50000]

What really irks me about WinMo is that just when the platform was on the cusp of reaching the masses with widespread adoption by consumers (and not just business users), easier app installation as well as a marketplace, and some great apps from Microsoft (Bing has replaced Google Maps on my phone), they're dropping it for an entirely new platform that requires abandoning all outdated hardware that could probably run the new OS very easily. WinMo tends to run slower on new phones bc it was never written explicitly to take advantage of the hardware. The apps on my TP2 range from spectacular to outright shameful. It's sad to see such a good piece of hardware face so limitations because of crippled software. and to be left behind when the next great software revolution happens is just salt in the wound.

[wud_e]

Originally Posted by boredandtattooed

after what i saw the last 2 days out of the Google I/O, MS' mobile prgram is about to take a back seat permanantly..... Google has a far greater vision than MS has ever had... MS isnt careful and theyll lose more than just the mobile phone battle... if they didnt have the windows OS, theyd be gone already IMO

Problem with that theory is that there is this nice little console known as the XBOX 360 which is the second place console behind the Wii.

[wud_e]

Originally Posted by one80oneday

If they can release windows phone 7 in India which only requires 128mb of RAM, why couldn't it run on TP2?
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/5808152.cms

Doesn't mention the CPU/GPU specs.