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ok, well i feel like i gave everyone false hope.. i just use which ever Msg client pops up based on where i hit it at.. i went through the threads i was in, my laptop, my pc, my external harddrive,and 4 differnt memory cards for cabs.. tried them all.. well the ones i could, remove arcsoft wouldnt work, so i didnt get to try any of the hacks on a different version.. .

i understand what you want.. when you hit the message tab you wanna see WM Msg.. question though.. is this workaround really worth the hassle its gonna take?? i know alot of people want it.. but the message is gonna come in, your gonna scroll the message tab.. and a screen tap is going to take place.. is it tha big of a deal that you need to tap "the actually message" to see WM threaded display VS still only using one screen tap to hit "all messages' which is already there in the soft key???

also none of this will change when you goto a contact , if you slide over to the message tag, itll still open up HTC threaded.. thatd be alot more work to get rid of..

and anything with VGA in it, as far as something that may fix the messaging issue you want, wouldnt matter.. all those tweaks just attack the client itself its not really anything to do with resolution or anything.. if it claims to fix sense2.5, it should matter the device its on.. no different than the way we use arcsoft versions on any device no matter the res..

i dunno, i fell bad know though.. if the manila file switch isnt doing what you wnat.. then it has to be in the reg.. when you tap on tab, its just pullin up HTC instead of WM.. that means there has to be a string or set of strings controlling this.. much like how we changed how and what gets used to pull up contacts.. ie-contactpicker cabs.. i dont really get into all that reg stuff though.. lil tweaks i know where they are but im not much for searching and searching inside the reg for new things..

id say HKLM>software>HTC>manila>htcservices> might be a good place to start.. whats in that .dll there??? any path/default to chnage in there to goto WM instead?? things like that are what youll need to find, open, and possibly edit... its just gonna be a value or path to change to make it happen im sure..

sorry guys

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i don't think you have to play with the registry to do this.. just edit the manila file to point to "threaded View" instead of peopleMessaging. problem is, there are so many manila files i dunno which one it is..

if you look in this attached file which was the work-around for wm 6.1/sense 2.1 you'll see it directs to "ThreadedViewPage" parameter.. i think the new file in 2.5 is called 486d3b1a_manila which probably is the file that has to be edited in a similar way. for all i know "ThreadedViewPage" parms could have been removed/rename to something else in 2.5.

oh well, who ever wants to take a stab at it..

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Sory U had to go thru that I just saw this post and coulda saved you the trouble as I did this.

Please post whatever you hav so we can work on it.

The registry is to disable the HTC, like the zen2.1 fix cab was for.
The manila files are to redirect when you press the message.

In older Sense 19xx, the cab only work for disable, but I used my older 47xx manila file "original default texting" cab used in sense 2.1 to redirect to native sms on sense 2.5 after installing the disable HTC cab..

I recently fixed the landscape view and posted it in MrX sense 2.1 thread.

So Once we get to disable the HTC, then we can use this cab to enable one click to the M$ sms.

I bet this all sounds confusing, but I will be looking into both the registry and the manilafull.xml file, and propose there is were the answer lies...

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ok i will post this for you and then you have to post the post where it shows you fixed the landscape view in 2.1 :) thats freaking awesome.
edit: i found your post and i just want to say Thanks!!! for fixing the landscape bug!

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Question:
Would I be forced to use HTC messaging if I switched to a Sense 2.1 ROM form someone like Might Mike?
If so, can somone post a link to the ROM you would recommend for speed and stability.



Thank you.

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Answer:
yes and no. you will have to use it probably for everything but txting. there is a patched manila file out there that will disable the htc messaging ONLY in txt

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...la#post1669202

Thanks to razorloves for the quicklink to this post

Re: Sprint's 6.5 forces you to use "HTC messaging" over "WM messaging". Is there a fi
 

What's the latest?

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the link i posted is the latest

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Is it me or that with the 6.5 rom , you do not have the option to select text in a text message?

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You can't with HTC Messaging. HTC messaging is GIMPED, in addition to being slow.

You still can do it with MS Messaging,
but It's a MUCH bigger pain in the ass now.
Here are the steps.
When inside a message, you hit the MENU in the bottom right.
Then hit SELECT MESSAGES
Then hit ALL
Then TAP AND HOLD the light blue shaded area
Then select either MAKE SELECTION or SELECT ALL
Then, TAP AND HOLD the dark blue shaded area
Then, hit COPY

Pain in the ass, right?

I LOVE the grid layout of both the new "Quick Links", and "PEOPLE" with the favorite contacts.
But, I prefer the Old Windows Messaging Text screen.

In the meantime, I'm looking for links to the fastest and most stable 2.1 Sense/Windows Mobile 6.1

But, I hope this thread find a tweek to avoid HTC Messanger and use MS Messaging only on the Sense 2.5/Windows 6.5 ROMs.

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Yea HTC does a lot of good putting "make up" on WM. However, big mistake making there messaging the primary txt avenue. Sad part is there wont be any updates or "fixes" from HTC to fix it/ungimp it.

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I'm thinking of temporarily going to another ROM to avoid HTC Messaging.

What is the version of Manilla/Sense that came on the Stock Sprint TP2, out of the box, when it was new?
Is there any version of sense that came out between the tock Sprint TP2 and Sense 2.5?

I love the today screen options of Sense 2.5. I just HATE being forced to use HTC messaging.

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all you have to do is find a 2.1 rom and then install that cab that i linked to YOU WILL HAVE HTC MESSAGING GONE IN SMS/MMS!!!!!!!!!!


im done trying to help

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Your gona be digging for a bit......there is not one anywhere for 2.5 2012....


only way is like Psycho stated.....go to 2.1 or stay with 2.5 and flash a rom where it is partially disabled and live with it .....there is no full fix out as of yet for 2.5 2012.....maybe eventually someone will dig into it deeper.....but for now it is what it is...

EDIT: Sorry bored see ya figured that out already....lol

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UPDATE !!!!!

I just played with my friends 100% STOCK HD2 from Tmobile USA.
The HD2 DOES have the ability to insert pre-written texts from it's version of HTC Messaging.
I know the HD2 has a 1gz processor, but the HTC Messaging on the HD2 seemeed a LOT faster and not sluggish like it is on the TP2.

How can we port the SAME ROM from a 100% STOCK HD2 from Tmobile USA on a Sprint Touch Pro 2 ????

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Here is the menu screen when you hit the "MENU" on the bottom right of the HTC Messaging Screen on a 100% STOCK HD2 from Tmobile USA:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/picture.ph...&pictureid=976





Here is the "Quick Text" screen from the 100% STOCK HD2 from Tmobile USA:


http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/picture.ph...&pictureid=975






Here is the "software information screen" from the 100% stock HD2 from Tmobile USA:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/picture.ph...&pictureid=977
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/album.php?...&pictureid=975

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Thanks for making my Sense 2.1 cab file known as thru my laziness I only posted it over there at MrX Sense2.1 thread.

I have been trying over the last weekend on a fix..
And my testing revealed that:
past cabs/new cabs/making custom cabs;
methods of file replacement;
reg editing;
editing "manilaFull.xml";
and disabling/renaming Dll files
All didnt work for me, as the best I would do, is get a non responsive sms tab.

This version maila is all new files in the sms handling.

I also tried to replace the HTC files with older files from other sense2.5, but the newer Sense wont see them as it only looking for the new sms that uses "manila_messaging.dll"

The guys that would have the expertise to fix this would be the dudes that ported the last version manila over at xda.
My guess is that it would have to be an edited dll, or make addintional new files.

Another solution is to look for a rom that uses a ported version Sense2.5 before the sprint version Sense2012.. OR a later or diffferent version.
like the HD2 one just posted.
Mayby a swap of the dll or sms files from that HD2... something to try for me next weekend as I have limited time.

O well thats just my stab at it, and I hope someone else may try and solve it.

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Thanks for working on this Maxx. :)
I think the version HTC Messaging/Sense running on the Tmobile HD2 is worth trying out.

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?So let me get this straight... we are stuck with HTC Messaging?

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Re: Sprint's 6.5 forces you to use "HTC messaging" over "WM messaging". Is there a fi
 

haven't you already been warned about bumping this up without bringing any new info? people are working on it...

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yes...he is ignoring this post

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Believe it or not, I forgot.
Regardless, I need a fix or I'm going to Android and smashing this phone to pieces.

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i have posted once before offering the solution of using SSMaHo as a means of using a different application for SMS.
it does require a bit of set up and reading the instructions on the first few posts...but it lets you change almost any link in sense...i use it to open smschat when i click on a msg or on the all message softkey on my sms tab, and to open funcontacts when i click all contacts on the people tab. i also use it to open resco photo when i click on albums on the photo tab and used to open weatherbug when i clicked the weather on the home tab, but cookies 1.7 now takes care of that one.
i know its not exactly the solution you are looking for, but it works, and i am sure instead of smschat you can use it to open WM sms if you know the .exe and cmd.

link to xda for any interested. i am on sprint stock 6.5 and it works perfectly for me...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493810

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do it. can you film the whole thing? id really like to see it, as i see people threatening this all the time, but have yet to see a single smqshed tp2. im waiting though.

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hahahha...+1.
not like yelling for someone to jump when they are out on a ledge contemplating suicide...but i would like to watch as well.

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I am on latest ZoneRom now and it is using similar or better version of HTCmessaging posted below
It has so many options and:
I CAN COPY AND PASTE TEXT just holding my finger down without going into menus.
The send button is now where classic WM messaging was.
Hopefully it will not slow down as well.
EDIT: NO MORE loosing messages when going out unfinished.
When you come back to person, the message still there to send out!

HTC seems to be stepping up to the plate as this version is nicer.

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Thanks for posting Maxx.
You posts make me feel like I'm not the only one "in this boat".

Please post links to download the software and, if you don't mind, instructions on how to load it in baby steps. Unfotunately, I'm new to all this and a total newb.

Thanks again.

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After reading 15 pages and a few cabs mentioned its sad to see that this doesn't have a concrete solution yet.

I was going to resurrect this thread too but when it seem like no one wants to solve this issue and people are getting hostile I kind of just moved on.

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shure, just goto this thread where I posted here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread...=1#post1724177

Only a matter of time now before other cooks update the HTCmessenger.

Goto first page thread and flash his rom.
EDIT: It is only the "no mms" version :(
Look to sticky threads in upgrade section for how to flash.
Its easy after first few times :drunken:

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Hey dude I thanked you for repaeting this here as it is good to know.

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If you are with us, and want to find a solution to this issue, please continue to post in this thread.
If you're against us, then please just move on.

If we don't find a solution to this issue, I'm going to move to Android and be done with MS and this forum anyway.

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why do you always bump this thread? obviously by now no one has found a solution.. not to mention you're very demanding. if you move on to android no one's gonna give a mouse fart if you do.

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:wave:

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And that attitude is why no one cares to help.

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Since when is "please" and "thank you" having an attitude or being demanding ????

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LOL that sounds pretty demanding to me big guy..

this forum is to find a solution.. not to demand undeserved help.

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while browsing other rom threads to compare,
I have to say that the newer HTC messaging is sweet and alieviates the need to want to disable.
I have been trying other roms for the newer versin but havent found it yet on other than Zone rom, but it is only on the "no mms" version and I havent tried any arcsoft installs yet.

Prob this coming weekend we will see more new roms to try.
I am pretty much sold on Sense2.5 now that I have experienced the more advanced version HTCmessaging.

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Am I missing something or is it this easy?

All I did was make one of my homescreen shortcuts "Text" from the list of shortcuts and when I get a new message, I just tap it and it takes me to my WM text inbox. From there I just click on the message and I have threded messaging and can reply.
I use the HTC tab to get a quick look at my messages but if I want to reply, I just hit my "Text" shortcut on the homescreen.

Hope that helps.

David