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HTC_TP 01-01-2010 03:19 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
I just got off the phone with Sprint Business Support and the Rep I spoke to indicated that it is a HTC issue and are attempting to reach them in an effort to work this issue out.

moc426 01-01-2010 03:24 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
mine just show the time as usual, stock rom verizon.

krid80 01-01-2010 03:24 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HTC_TP (Post 1453381)
I just got off the phone with Sprint Business Support and the Rep I spoke to indicated that it is a HTC issue and are attempting to reach them in an effort to work this issue out.

more false info. The HoFo link showed LG phones having the same problem. I wonder how long this issue is gonna last.

letsgoflyers81 01-01-2010 03:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
There are threads on various forums about this. It's a Windows Mobile issue, not specifically HTC. Someone posted about an LG WM device with the problem, and people on various carriers have reported it. I guess we'll just have to deal with it until someone can find a solution. Hopefully it doesn't take too long.

pastert33 01-01-2010 03:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moc426 (Post 1453396)
mine just show the time as usual, stock rom verizon.

So when you go into your all msging and click on a threaded convo with someone, everything is fine?? That's hard to believe..

michaelj1981 01-01-2010 03:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
my text messages are not sayng that but is saying 1/1 from those im recieving a text from then mine say the time,

doogie 01-01-2010 03:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
I guess I fail to understand how this would be a hardware-specific issue? Or was the assertion that it's somehow related to HTC-produced software code (Sense)?

doogie 01-01-2010 03:27 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pastert33 (Post 1453403)
So when you go into your all msging and click on a threaded convo with someone, everything is fine?? That's hard to believe..

Agreed, I have an untouched VZW TP2 showing this bug and it persists following hard reset.

pastert33 01-01-2010 03:27 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doogie (Post 1453407)
I guess I fail to understand how this would be a hardware-specific issue? Or was the assertion that it's somehow related to HTC-produced software code (Sense)?

This is NOT a HTC problem...this is happening with many windows mobile devices.

jsowder 01-01-2010 03:28 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
I have two phones: Touch Pro W/ Window Mobile 6.1 CE OS 5.2.19965 Build 19965.1.2.3 (Stock OS)
AND
Touch Pro 2 W/ Windows Mobile 6.5 CE OS 5.2.21887 Build 21887.5.0.86 (Mighty ROM WAR)

Touch Pro exhibits this behavior:
using windows text messaging, in the list of threaded messages (groups) all INCOMING messages display 2016. If I click on the threaded text which displays all messages in that group, each individual INCOMING text shows the correct date.

Touch Pro 2 exhibits this behavior:
using HTC text messaging, in the list of threaded messages (groups) the dates shows correctly, if I select a threaded message and look at each individual message in that group the date for INCOMING is 2016, outgoing is the correct date.

Looks like a HTC/Windows 6.x comination issue. I dont see any posts showing issues with other phones running winmo 6.x (may be wrong though)

Smacksmackums 01-01-2010 03:30 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
I'm 100% stock, just activated my phone two days ago and it's got the 2016 issue. It certainly isn't life threatening but it is a bit annoying. Hope the fix comes soon.

subzero1313 01-01-2010 03:33 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
pretty sure my stores Samsung Intrepid is doing it as well, Ill check

moc426 01-01-2010 03:33 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Well I am not using touch flo, I use spb shell and I have it use the default messaging client.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastert33 (Post 1453403)
So when you go into your all msging and click on a threaded convo with someone, everything is fine?? That's hard to believe..


Telek 01-01-2010 03:37 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wstaylor (Post 1453118)
But in the HTC Touch Flow Viewer it is showing in this format:
ME 12:01am:
You too!
ME 12:03am:
Mine is too!!!
USER 1/1/16:
Happy New Year!
USER 1/1/16:
My Windows Mobile Phone is FUBAR

So, my post earlier was premature - the organization of the threaded messages does not appear to rely on the year in Windows Mobile Messaging - but it does in the 3rd party Messaging Viewer.

This is INDEED a Microsoft issue.

Didn't you just prove that it's an HTC error because it's their viewer that is having the problem?

The microsoft viewer is using whatever settings you have set in regional settings to display the date/time, as does HTC.

Interestingly enough mine only started showing 2016 after 2:00am EST - prior to that I got messages in fine with the correct 10/01/01 date. After 2am they started displaying with 16/01/01!

Also my GF's S720 may also have the problem - incoming messages are displaying (1/1) instead of their usual time. She's running WM6.1 stock Telus ROM.

subzero1313 01-01-2010 03:42 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453440)
pretty sure my stores Samsung Intrepid is doing it as well, Ill check

Nope, only showing the time it was sent.

krid80 01-01-2010 03:42 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telek (Post 1453450)
Didn't you just prove that it's an HTC error because it's their viewer that is having the problem?

The microsoft viewer is using whatever settings you have set in regional settings to display the date/time, as does HTC.

Interestingly enough mine only started showing 2016 after 2:00am EST - prior to that I got messages in fine with the correct 10/01/01 date. After 2am they started displaying with 16/01/01!

No, he proved it was a WinMo problem (at the very least) even though the order is correctly displayed in the stock WinMo client. Evidently stock WinMo client displays them in the order received sorted by the date and time the local file was created, but most programs use the time stamp on the sms for sorting. Even sorted correctly, the date stamp is incorrect.

Straitup27 01-01-2010 03:45 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krid80 (Post 1453464)
No, he proved it was a WinMo problem (at the very least) even though the order is correctly displayed in the stock WinMo client. Evidently stock WinMo client displays them in the order received sorted by the date and time the local file was created, but most programs use the time stamp on the sms for sorting. Even sorted correctly, the date stamp is incorrect.

agreed,it's happening to many other brands other than htc which simply eliminates that possibility

jsowder 01-01-2010 03:46 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453463)
Nope, only showing the time it was sent.

Check incoming msgs that is where the issue appears to be

subzero1313 01-01-2010 03:48 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsowder (Post 1453472)
Check incoming msgs that is where the issue appears to be

Only shows the time.

jsowder 01-01-2010 03:50 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453478)
Only shows the time.

if it only shows the time, I think that means the year is correct, if it were not correct the month/year would appear

subzero1313 01-01-2010 03:54 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsowder (Post 1453483)
if it only shows the time, I think that means the year is correct, if it were not correct the month/year would appear

Sounds right. So Im leaning towards HTC issue and LG people are liers ;)

moc426 01-01-2010 03:56 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Mine shows only time for all messages in and out for today in threads. The older messages show the dates as I expect. All seems fine on mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsowder (Post 1453483)
if it only shows the time, I think that means the year is correct, if it were not correct the month/year would appear


jsowder 01-01-2010 03:56 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
UPDATE: Im in the USA on Sprint

I have two phones: Touch Pro W/ Window Mobile 6.1 CE OS 5.2.19965 Build 19965.1.2.3 (Stock OS)
AND
Touch Pro 2 W/ Windows Mobile 6.5 CE OS 5.2.21887 Build 21887.5.0.86 (Mighty ROM WAR)

Touch Pro exhibits this behavior:
using windows text messaging, in the list of threaded messages (groups) all INCOMING messages display 2016. If I click on the threaded text which displays all messages in that group, each individual INCOMING text shows the correct date.

Touch Pro 2 exhibits this behavior:
using HTC text messaging, in the list of threaded messages (groups) the dates shows correctly, if I select a threaded message and look at each individual message in that group the date for INCOMING is 2016, outgoing is the correct date.

doogie 01-01-2010 03:56 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
So to try and sum things up so far..

Your Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 device may show SMS messages sent or received after 12:00am 1/1/2010 (local time) being sent or received in the year 2016, when the messages are viewed in Threaded mode. MMS messages seem unaffected.

No fix has been published yet, and although LG and HTC seem to be aware, no official statement has been made. Your carrier's Customer Support resources may not have complete information, and may give you inaccurate or anecdotal info until official word is out.

Devices, regions and carriers affected:
Seemingly any Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 device, any carrier, any region..although it's not completely certain at this point. Positive repros on Touch Pro 2, Touch Pro and Mogul.

See http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1606400, where some non-WinMo LG devices are exhibiting the problem.

Software affected:
Your choice of stock/custom ROM does not seem to change the problem. Mixed reports of SPB Shell and TouchFlo/Sense exhibiting the behavior. Native WinMo messaging software seems to consistently repro.

Reporting additional scenarios (positive or negative)..it's helpful to have specific software versions (OS, TouchFlo/Sense/SPB Shell), custom ROM name and version (if applicable), carrier, country you live in.

keentech 01-01-2010 03:58 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
I love WinMo! Could be worse, it could have tweeked all of our calendars and really screwed some people up!

slidebabyslide 01-01-2010 04:04 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by journeyman846 (Post 1452660)
Same problem here, verizon wireless using MightyRom.

Same problem as him :-({|=:-({|=

Mazda Charles 01-01-2010 04:11 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
My brother says his AT&T Fuze doesn't have the problem. Maybe it's CDMA carriers?

subzero1313 01-01-2010 04:12 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Do the days and dates in 2016 match up with 2010?(Im lazy) If so, couldnt you change the time to 2016? Retarded "fix", but would it work?

subzero1313 01-01-2010 04:17 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Odd stretch here, but could it have anything to do with todays date being binary? 010110? which translates into.........16........Like I said, Looooooooong stretch, but hey...

jsowder 01-01-2010 04:18 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453530)
Do the days and dates in 2016 match up with 2010?(Im lazy) If so, couldnt you change the time to 2016? Retarded "fix", but would it work?

Then your calendar is hosed

krid80 01-01-2010 04:23 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453541)
Odd stretch here, but could it have anything to do with todays date being binary? 010110? which translates into.........16........Like I said, Looooooooong stretch, but hey...

hahaha interesting idea. Doubt it is the issue, but good catch.

jsowder 01-01-2010 04:23 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by doogie (Post 1453499)
So to try and sum things up so far..

Your Windows Mobile 6.1/6.5 device may show SMS messages sent or received after 12:00am 1/1/2010 (local time) being sent or received in the year 2016, when the messages are viewed in Threaded mode. MMS messages seem unaffected.

No fix has been published yet, and although LG and HTC seem to be aware, no official statement has been made. Your carrier's Customer Support resources may not have complete information, and may give you inaccurate or anecdotal info until official word is out.

Devices, regions and carriers affected:
Seemingly any Windows Mobile 6.1 or 6.5 device, any carrier, any region..although it's not completely certain at this point. Positive repros on Touch Pro 2, Touch Pro and Mogul.

See http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1606400, where some non-WinMo LG devices are exhibiting the problem.

Software affected:
Your choice of stock/custom ROM does not seem to change the problem. Mixed reports of SPB Shell and TouchFlo/Sense exhibiting the behavior. Native WinMo messaging software seems to consistently repro.

Reporting additional scenarios (positive or negative)..it's helpful to have specific software versions (OS, TouchFlo/Sense/SPB Shell), custom ROM name and version (if applicable), carrier, country you live in.

Think the issue is for incoming only isnt it? Seems out going is fine.

jsowder 01-01-2010 04:24 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krid80 (Post 1453553)
hahaha interesting idea. Doubt it is the issue, but good catch.

thats interesting!

krid80 01-01-2010 04:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsowder (Post 1453554)
Think the issue is for incoming only isnt it? Seems out going is fine.

yes, incoming only.

*holy crap! 12 pages!*

aamon17 01-01-2010 04:25 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pastert33 (Post 1453403)
So when you go into your all msging and click on a threaded convo with someone, everything is fine?? That's hard to believe..

Well, believe it! Mine is unaffected too! I'm running MightyRom Impact 12/28. It only shows "Today" and the time. Here's what I see:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/picture.ph...&pictureid=483

moc426 01-01-2010 04:28 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
But that isn't 16 in binary ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453541)
Odd stretch here, but could it have anything to do with todays date being binary? 010110? which translates into.........16........Like I said, Looooooooong stretch, but hey...


jsowder 01-01-2010 04:29 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aamon17 (Post 1453560)
Well, believe it! Mine is unaffected too! I'm running MightyRom Impact 12/28. It only shows "Today" and the time. Here's what I see:

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/picture.ph...&pictureid=483

After 2am? saw a post earlier saying it only started on thier phone after 2am

vster88 01-01-2010 04:30 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subzero1313 (Post 1453530)
Do the days and dates in 2016 match up with 2010?(Im lazy) If so, couldnt you change the time to 2016? Retarded "fix", but would it work?

2016 is a leap year.

subzero1313 01-01-2010 04:32 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moc426 (Post 1453569)
But that isn't 16 in binary ...

http://home2.paulschou.net/tools/xlate/

in Hex it is...

i4get75 01-01-2010 04:36 PM

Re: text messages from the future Y2KX issue
 
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=1%2F1%2F16

Seems it's more widespread. Just saw someone with a Palm Treo with the problem also. Check this Twitter search, people having the same problem


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