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WisdomWolfX · #**191** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows

Atlanta should be bombed like Iraq.

If you want to wipe out a part of the US, forget Atlanta. We need to remove Kentucky. Our economy and average IQ would improve dramatically.

WisdomWolfX · #**192** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jmorton10

Do you spend your whole day just thinking up moronic things to post??

~John

I think it just comes naturally to some of us.

**BlackDynamite** · #**193** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WisdomWolfX

Ok I see what you are getting at. You made it sound as though all sorts of devices would already support the 21mbps that you keep talking about. I just don't get why you keep going on about how there are now wimax devices when the same can be said for HSPA+. Sure, it might just be a minor tweak, but that still means there are currently 0 devices. So you can't really say that Sprint is behind in that area as you and I don't know definitively what devices, supporting the new standards, will be released in 2010 in either camp.

I love a good debate, but you have to be willing to look at both sides without an opinion in order to see things clearly.

Well I look at it like this...

T-Mobile has several devices right now that will get 7 meg real world speeds when they turn on the new network. Sprint is advertising their 4G network as getting real world speeds that average 6 megs.

And, again, T-Mobile has a whole bunch of devices capable of this right now. You can bet there will be plenty that support the 21 meg standard going forward. No, they probably won't get real world speeds of 21 megs. But they will certainly get 10 megs or more. It's not uncommon to get 2 meg speeds right now on T-Mobile's 3.6 meg HSPA network.

Now, having said all of that, Sprint, right now, doesn't even have a single phone for it's WiMax network. And this is a network that has been in use for over a year already (first market launched September of 0

. And we're seeing prominent CEOs of device manufacturers basically saying they don't see anybody supporting that technology (see the link I posted earlier). So if you want to make a case that Sprint will have device support, I will need something to back that up. So far all signs point to WiMax being a bust. I hope oit does prove successful, but with everyon else (even Verizon) going LTE, I don;t see how WiMax is going to have any support by device manufacturers.

**BlackDynamite** · #**194** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by p-slim

there are some, but trust me the numbers are pale in comparison.

I don't think so. Again, people are leaving Sprint by the millions every quarter, and joining T-Mobile by the millions every quarter. And T-Mobile customers are generally quite happy with their service- T-Mobile is always rated #1 or #2 in customer satisfaction.

**brownhornet** · #**195** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Maybe your phone just sucked...

If a tilt, a G-1 and a touch pro sucked then I guess.... bottom line is T-mobile has the worst service here by far.

rorytmeadows · #**196** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Well I look at it like this...

T-Mobile has several devices right now that will get 7 meg real world speeds when they turn on the new network. Sprint is advertising their 4G network as getting real world speeds that average 6 megs.

And, again, T-Mobile has a whole bunch of devices capable of this right now. You can bet there will be plenty that support the 21 meg standard going forward. No, they probably won't get real world speeds of 21 megs. But they will certainly get 10 megs or more. It's not uncommon to get 2 meg speeds right now on T-Mobile's 3.6 meg HSPA network.

Now, having said all of that, Sprint, right now, doesn't even have a single phone for it's WiMax network. And this is a network that has been in use for over a year already (first market launched September of 0

. And we're seeing prominent CEOs of device manufacturers basically saying they don't see anybody supporting that technology (see the link I posted earlier). So if you want to make a case that Sprint will have device support, I will need something to back that up. So far all signs point to WiMax being a bust. I hope oit does prove successful, but with everyon else (even Verizon) going LTE, I don;t see how WiMax is going to have any support by device manufacturers.

Honestly, when I think that Sprint's 4G has been up for a while, but only usable with USB adapters, I kind of think they are thinking, "How can we charge them more for this?" I have the feeling that tethering plans are going to be through the roof for these one's rushing to get their networks out.

T-Mobile has already said that their network can handle the iPhone. Considering it's popularity, that's pretty impressive.

Also, bomb Atlanta and Kentucky.

WisdomWolfX · #**197** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Well I look at it like this...

T-Mobile has several devices right now that will get 7 meg real world speeds when they turn on the new network. Sprint is advertising their 4G network as getting real world speeds that average 6 megs.

And, again, T-Mobile has a whole bunch of devices capable of this right now. You can bet there will be plenty that support the 21 meg standard going forward. No, they probably won't get real world speeds of 21 megs. But they will certainly get 10 megs or more. It's not uncommon to get 2 meg speeds right now on T-Mobile's 3.6 meg HSPA network.

Now, having said all of that, Sprint, right now, doesn't even have a single phone for it's WiMax network. And this is a network that has been in use for over a year already (first market launched September of 0

. And we're seeing prominent CEOs of device manufacturers basically saying they don't see anybody supporting that technology (see the link I posted earlier). So if you want to make a case that Sprint will have device support, I will need something to back that up. So far all signs point to WiMax being a bust. I hope oit does prove successful, but with everyon else (even Verizon) going LTE, I don;t see how WiMax is going to have any support by device manufacturers.

Are you kiding me? The same thing happend with EVDO rev A. It was on data cards only when first released. It took quite some time before the Mogul (first revA device) was released, and even then it still took several months before the RevA ability was unlocked. As far as a case for device support. Sprint is expected to make an announcement in one week. Check back then.

As for the prominent CEO. That's a CEO for a company that doesn't make devices for Sprint (the only telco supporting wimax currently). Hardly an unbiased opinion.

**p-slim** · #**198** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

Trust me, there are plenty of people saying that same thing about Sprint right now- with great T-Mobile service.

there are some, but trust me the numbers are pale in comparison. Even vzw has people saying they cant get service where sprint customers will have 4 bars.

**brownhornet** · #**199** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SaltyDawg

I don't think so. Again, people are leaving Sprint by the millions every quarter, and joining T-Mobile by the millions every quarter. And T-Mobile customers are generally quite happy with their service- T-Mobile is always rated #1 or #2 in customer satisfaction.

Umm.. you do know that the majority of the customers that Sprint has shed came from the Nextel side right? And shedding and gaining customers doesnt mean a damn thing considering how many customers AT&T was able to gain just by having an exclusive contract on the iphone....even with their dropped calls issue.

Now I cant say what T-Mobile is like everywhere else but hell.. here in Georgia you dont even get 3G with T-Mobile once you get south of Newnan.

**brownhornet** · #**200** (**permalink**) 12-30-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rorytmeadows

Honestly, when I think that Sprint's 4G has been up for a while, but only usable with USB adapters, I kind of think they are thinking, "How can we charge them more for this?" I have the feeling that tethering plans are going to be through the roof for these one's rushing to get their networks out.

T-Mobile has already said that their network can handle the iPhone. Considering it's popularity, that's pretty impressive.

Also, bomb Atlanta and Kentucky.

It's easy to SAY that they can handle the iphone when they dont have any phone that uses anywhere near the amount of bandwidth that the iphone does. And isnt AT&T's network larger than T-Mobile in the states??