Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Yes! I still have that phone, it's a Kyocera with blue backlight....

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

i have an old kyocera palm phone! its the one that has the original palm screen/original "gameboy" color (green). It's still a good phone!

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

F.Y.I. - "Kyocera Wireless Corp. Awarded Contract By MetroPCS" - Business Wire, Nov 27, 2001 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...27/ai_80340320 153 kbps! packrat! ;-)

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Can somebody please explain the steps and programs they used to get their Titan over to MetroPCS. Would really appreciate it. Contract up next month with Sprint and can't pass up on the great prices Metro has, but have fallen in love with my Mogul and don't want to give it up.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Read the posts here in this thread, i wrote somenthing in orange. There is a link for a file, downaload it, all software and instructions needed are there. you need to have the OEM rom 3.5.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

It would be nice if somebody could make a full rom version to get your Sprint or Verizon phone on the MetroPCS network.

I used MetroPCS and their coverage is not really good but it would be fine as backup.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Well, i'd argue that technically it's illegal to clone any cell phone, even your own.

I remember cloning being a huge issue because people would grab your info out of the air with special receivers... anyhow, it was illegal.

So, with doing this, I assume it's also illegal. It's like making a copy of your music CD. Sure, you bought, paid and own it, but it doesn't matter, it's still not allowed.

Unless it's done by the companies hands, I doub't any of what we do to our phones is legal :P

But don't let that stop you!

Re: Cloning and Flashing
 

ssssUntil now I didn't realize this mogul mod would require cloning.

From what I have read there appear to be relatively innocent and harmless methods and uses of mobile phone cloning, like what is being discussed here, and others forms of cloning that are extremely criminal in their nature and intent and do a great deal of harm - e.g. identity theft for the specific purpose of committing theft and fraud, malicious wiretapping, ripping off service, etc.

Laws are on the books to criminilize the latter, but in many cases the law does not distinguish between the two.

From the Wikipedia article on "phone cloning"

"Phone cloning is outlawed by the Wireless Telephone Protection Act of 1998, which prohibits:

knowingly using, producing, trafficking in, having control or custody of, or possessing hardware or software knowing that it has been configured to insert or modify telecommunication identifying information associated with or contained in a telecommunications instrument so that such instrument may be used to obtain telecommunications service without authorization.

The effectiveness of phone cloning is limited. Every mobile phone contains a radio fingerprint in its transmission signal which remains unique to that mobile despite changes to the phones Electronic Serial Number (ESN) or Mobile Identification Number (MIN.) Thus, cellular companies are often able to catch cloned phones when there are discrepancies between the fingerprint and the ESN or MIN."

Apparently it doesn't even matter whether you are using only one device on an account that you're paying for. In that sense you're not stealing service - but that's not relevant because apparently it is still illegal.

One online poster made the comparison that cloning or exchanging two phone's ESNs is the moral and legal equivalent of cloning or switching two car's VINs.

Re: MetroFlash

For several months MetroPCS has been offering a service called MetroFlash. There is a complete list of compatible phones available on the MetroPCS website http://www.metropcs.com/metroflash/Default.aspx. It is exactly the same list that appears on the http://houdinisoft.com website (when it is working) because Metro is apparently using the Houdini software to flash compatible phones. When phones are flashed by Metro they legally use the phone's existing ESN and put it on their network, which they were unwilling to do previously.

The MetroPCS compatible phones are mostly all CDMA dumb phones.*** [Maybe NOT - see below!!!]

MetroPCS personnel are unwilling and unable to flash smart phones onto their network because it's not even possible given the software system and procedures they are using. I suppose they could hack your phone, but that is extremely unlikely as it would put their job in jeopardy.

At best, MetroFlash unlocks the voice and text messaging features ONLY. Specifically MetroFlash does NOT enable any data services - including the mobile web browser, sending pictures to another phone number (MMS), or wireless modem capability - even though these features are normally fully enabled by MetroPCS on all their feature-compatible phones with ESNs native to their system. So even though you may be paying for these capabilities, you cannot use them on a MetroFlashed phone.

You might be able to restore and extend these capabilities if you can find procedures to modify these dumb phones. The custom ROMs and kitchens available here cannot be applied to the kinds of phones that Metro flashes. Please correct me if I am wrong about this. The type of firmware and ROM required to adapt these phones to Metro do not exist because the companies involved never engineered them to work together and also there is no easy way to make modifications without literally taking the phone apart and redesigning it. I guess if you're really creative, studied electrical engineering and computer science, have the right equipment and programmable chips, a soldering iron and very good eyes, you might be able to figure it out. But it would REALLY not be worth all the trouble. Even if you had access to all of Metro's programming codes and procedures.

It is only the HTC models and certain similar smartphones that have the user programmability, the cracks and rom kitchens and capabilities for modding and reprogramming that enable them to be brought onto Metro's S-L-O-W data network with many of their features intact, and even extended, but these are precisely the devices Metro is unwilling to legally flash onto their system.

Sounds like a catch 22 unless you go the cloning approach and are willing to accept the above risks and ethical issues. I have not yet made up my own mind and will be researching and reflecting on all this further.

Sorry in advance if I'm wrong about any of this. I doing my best to be accurate and helpful, not mislead.

Also we should probably not openly discuss specific methods of cloning ESNs on this forum. I know its interesting and perhaps useful to some, but threads have been shut down and locked for less. And it is probably unwise to go on record publicly about this type of hacking. Who knows who is reading this thread.

Best regards. Sorry if this the info has disappointed.

*** P.S. I just realized that I have not carefully reviewed the list of Houdini - MetroFlash compatible phones to see if there may actually BE any smart phones on the list. I had assumed not. At least one photo on the houdinisoft webpage suggests there may in fact be. So I might be quite wrong about that.

Would someone please review the list I've included below. Maybe there is a handset out there that is both LEGAL to flash onto the MetroPCS network, capable and moddable to our satisfaction!!!!

Note there are no HTC or even Nokia phones on the list (not even the Nokia models that used to be sold by MetroPCS like the 6265i which would need to be flashed if the phone is from another provider.

METRO FLASH COMPATIBLE PHONES (CDMA)

Audiovox

CDM-8450
* CDM-8615
* CDM-8900
* CDM-8910
* CDM-8912
* CDM-8915
* CDM-8920
* CDM-8940
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Kyocera

* K-132
* K-24 v1003
* K-323
* K-342
* K-404
* K-433
* K-483JLC
* K-493
* K-612b
* KE-413
* KE-424c
* KE-424c
* KE-433c
* KX-1
* KX-13
* KX-16
* KX-160B
* KX-18 5DW
* KX-18-5D0
* KX-414
* KX-44
* KX-444
* KX-5
* KX-9C
* KX-9D
* KX-9D-125
* KX-9E
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LG

* 5000
* AX-355
* AX-490
* AX-830
* AX/LX/UX-260
* AX/UX-145
* AX/UX-380
* DM-L200
* LG/UX-390
* LX-150
* LX-160
* LX-350
* LX-5450
* LX-550
* LX-565
* LX/VI-125
* MM-535
* PM-225
* PM-325
* VX-1000
* VX-10000
* VX-3200
* VX-3280
* VX-3300
* VX-3400
* VX-3450
* VX-4400
* VX-4500
* VX-4600
* VX-4650
* VX-4700
* VX-5200
* VX-5300
* VX-5400
* VX-6000
* VX-6100
* VX-6200
* VX-7000
* VX-8000
* VX-8100
* VX-8300
* VX-8350
* VX-8500
* VX-8550
* VX-8700
* VX-8800
* VX-9100
* VX-9400
* VX-9800
* VX-9900
* VX/AX-4270
* VX/AX-8600
* VX/LS-5500
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Motorola

* C290
* E815
* E816
* ic402c
* ic502
* K1m
* L7c
* V262
* V265
* V276
* V323i
* V325i
* V3a
* V3C
* V3c-2
* V3M
* V710
* V9m
* Ve
* W315
* W385
* Z6m
* Z6tv
NO Q ??
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PanTech

* DM-P100
* PN-210
* PN-215
* PN-218
* PN-300
* PN-810
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Samsung

* SCH-A310
* SCH-A475
* SCH-A530
* SCH-A595
* SCH-A605
* SCH-A610
* SCH-A630
* SCH-A645
* SCH-A650
* SCH-A655
* SCH-A670
* SCH-A685
* SCH-A725
* SCH-A790
* SCH-A815
* SCH-A850
* SCH-A870
* SCH-A890
* SCH-A895
* SCH-A915
* SCH-A930
* SCH-A950
* SCH-A970
* SCH-A990
* SCH-N330
* SCH-R200
* SCH-R400
* SCH-R410
* SCH-R500
* SCH-R510
* SCH-R510
* SCH-R610
* SCH-U340
* SCH-U340-1
* SCH-U470
* SCH-U510
* SCH-U540
* SCH-U620
* SCH-U740
* SPH-A303
* SPH-A420
* SPH-A503
* SPH-A505
* SPH-A513
* SPH-A523
* SPH-A560
* SPH-A580
* SPH-A620
* SPH-A640
* SPH-A660
* SPH-A680
* SPH-A740
* SPH-A760
* SPH-A800
* SPH-A820
* SPH-A840
* SPH-A880
* SPH-A900
* SPH-A920
* SPH-A960
* SPH-i830
* SPH-M300
* SPH-M500
* SPH-M510
* SPH-M520
* SPH-M520-1
* SPH-M620
-------------------------
Sanyo

* DLX
* M1
* MM-7200
* MM-7300
* MM-7400
* MM-7500
* PM-8200
* S1
* SCP-200
* SCP-2300
* SCP-2400
* SCP-3100
* SCP-3200
* SCP-4500
* SCP-4900
* SCP-4920
* SCP-4930
* SCP-5300
* SCP-5500
* SCP-5600
* SCP-6550
* SCP-6600
* SCP-6650
* SCP-6650q
* SCP-7000
* SCP-8100
* SCP-8300
* SCP-8400
-----------------------
Starcom

* CDM-7025
* CDM-7025q

Samsung SCH-i830 is MetroPCS-friendly
 

Seems there's at least one PPC on this list that Metro says it will flash for you legally with no hassles at any store that offers the metroflash service.

It's an 3 year old Samsung model I never heard of before - SCH-i830 CDMA + GSM World Phone. Picture and reviews http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sams...15-d_5396.html.

It's no Mogul or Touch or even Apache, no camera, not sure if it has wifi. ... but it IS legal flashed to Metro, and was reviewed reasonably well in late 2005. Anyone know how to mod a Samsung?

It also looks pretty sharp on this page http://www.valuesphere.com/intouchsm...msungi830.html - which says at least some models have wifi. Undoubtedly pretty cheap to buy used on the web.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Followed your link but didn't find anything on how to get my Mogul over to MetroPCS. Sorry if I missed it, I'm sort of a noob when it comes to some of this stuff but I read through everything and all I did was get more confused. Just wondering if the person who originally posted that they got their PPC-6800 working on Metro, could maybe share their exact steps/programs so we all can give it a shot.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Actually you can do everything except MMS sending on it (so far).. Yes Internet works..

Even MetroFlash, Houdini can't claim more than text/talk for their money..

-CC

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

GPS works too.. Hence Google Maps, Live search.. It freaks people out when you zoom on their house :)

-CC

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

1X, but some markets reporting EVDO... Haven't seen Rev. A

-CC

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Did you change the MIP to SImple Ip and set the SID/NID to 4815/65535 ?

I am assuming you got some of that set since your internet works.. :)

-CC

P.S. for users interested there are alot of threads posted on the metropcs forum on howardforums.

Helpful info if you're programming your MetroPCS phone
 

This link is an ongoing thread on getting MMS to work.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1322461

This link leads to the now sticky thread on tethering a MetroPCS phone. Use this information to get your Internet working.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1136583

Settings of importance;

Proxy server address: wap.metropcs.net

HTTP port: 3128

HTTPS or secure HTTP port: 443

WAP port: 3128

Socks port: 3128

Username: 10digitphonenumber@mymetropcs.com

Password: leave blank

To answer a previous concern, yes you can access secure websites using metropcs. You can pay your bills using it.

As far as MMS, if you read thru the linked thread, you'll notice we've been working on it and only have had partial success..

Personally, I gave up trying and went Sprint SERO and no longer have MetroPCS. Life became much easier.. Until they cut MMS off lol.. haha point at me.. ](*,)

With Houdini and MetroPCS opening up their network to other carrier's phones, it has become much easier, but they still won't leak a hint about MMS server settings.

Even if you go with Houdini / MetroFLASH your phone to their system. It only gives you Talk and Text. If you can find out how to edit your web sessions and/or internet settings, using what I posted above you should be able to access the internet, provided you have that service enabled on your Metro account.

Also a recent personal observation, is that @metroWEB is much faster than before even though it's still only 1X in my service area. The signal quality has also improved. Where I used to be able to make fun showing off my Sprint signal bars where MetroPCS had 1 or none.. Now I am put to shame at times.. :disgust:

Enjoy,

-CC

P.S. The default MetroPCS homepage might not be available for your non-MetroPCS phone, so when you first connect you may get an error. Don't worry, just enter the URL you wish to load and have fun!

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

how do i find the password for the EPST so i can update the PRL?

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

You need to install GetSPC on your phone and enter the Hex ESN and it will spit out your SPC. Once you get your SPC you can open the phone in CDMA Workshop and change it to 000000 so it will work on the MetroPCS Network.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

How / Where did you get the MIP & SID/NID?

I loaded the latest MetroPCS PRL file, but when I call I get "Welcome to American Roaming Network".

Edit: Actually when I dialed *228 it was on the MetroPCS network... still playing around though with some other... "stuff"

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

To Change the "Simple IP" you need to connect with QPST.
Check the M.IP Tab, Under Mobile IP Behavior

When in QPST, make sure that all fields that shows a phone number, shows YOUR number.

By Loading the correct PRL ( using EPST or QPST ) you load all the necessary inforamtion to get inside metro's network. Use PRL 00068 from corolada.

The following 3 things are mandatory to make your handset work within metro:

- HEX ESN into MetroPCS system.
- Correct PRL ( 00068 )
- Check with QPST or EPST that your phone number shows correctly in all fields.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Sucessfully flashed to Metropcs
 

The Simple IP was a problem. Now I am getting a different error (bad user / pw) plus those don't seem to want to save... I am trying to flash a different rom, maybe it was related to that.

Edit: Alright I made it onto secure websites, but no luck getting the proxy to work right yet... still working on it.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Well I can't figure out why the proxy won't stay saved.

The Secure Proxy & Socks proxy stay fine, the first proxy (HTTP) clears itself completely, while the WAP proxy puts in the ip: 206.47.78.149:80 (which is a Bell Proxy, so I don't know where to find that! The sprint was flashed to a bell rom a long time ago, but it's been flashed with sprint many times since...)

Any guidance from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

That's weird. Even deleting all connections and starting a new one from scratch? try creating a new one under "my work network" and set as your default

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Well I tried that, but it keeps going back to "CDMA Network"... I even deleted that network...

Even when I tell opera to use "My work network" I see the "CDMA network" connecting bubble.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Ok, I flashed to a different rom (was on OMJ 3.09) and now on WDM's and was able to fix the problem instantly.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Hello everyone. I have been reading for a few days trying to follow all the steps to get my HTC Mogul to the Metro PCS network. I am currently using a Samsung A640 that I got metro flashed. I have changed all of the steps like the IOTA files as well as the MIP and Security.

The issue I have and I may have overlooked this along the way is that I am not seeing the exact point in the thread where is say perform these steps in order to make and receive calls.

All I know is the people in the Metro PCS store put up a stone wall when I brought the mogul in to add the ESN number.

Can some one assist me with this issue where I can make and receive calls.

Thanks

Noob](*,)](*,)](*,)

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Soljastank; the reason you seem to be missing that critical step where your mogul rings when someone dials your metropcs number isn't a coincidence.

And I'm hoping I don't get banned for simply explaining why.

The stone wall you ran into at the MetroPCS store, and the high price you'll run into trying to get it done on the street ($75 to $150), is because Metro does NOT allow pdas/smart phones on their network (as of the date of this posting) *there's this Nokia that's actually a smartphone that is a verified exception.

So to get right down to it.

It SEEMS like you're overlooking the 'exact point'; because it is ILLEGAL. It is a violation of Federal Law (and maybe some state laws too) to make that Mogul work on MetroPCS the way most (if not all) of us are currently doing it (I don't have a mogul I have a Sprint Touch).

What happens if you can find someone to do it for you or figure out how to get it done is this:
You have a plain jane MetroPCS phone; we'll call that a toyota celica.
You also have ritzy-bells&whistles CDMA phone ala your Mogul; lets say that's a Cadillac Escalade.
(here come the illegal part)
The Celica's vechicle id number (VIN) is copied onto the Escalade. So the Escalade 'registers' as the Celica.

Of course this is VERY illegal. And right now that's the only avenue available to have your Mogul fully functioning on Metro's network... Don't let anyone tell you different. The dead give away that something is fishy is once you get your mogul on Metro's network.. The Celica AND the Escalade will ring at the SAME TIME and receive the same text messages.

Of course there's a word for this proceedure I've avoided plainly saying. Because I don't think I can even say the word. Alot of forums will kick you out for saying bad-words (Kinda makes me think of the late George Carlin).

So good luck

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

C****, C****, C****

There !!!

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

xtremelydeep,

I thank you for timely response. The issue that I have is that I am aware of the legality of the cloning of the phones as it has been noted on the site on many occasions. I have my mogul on sprint now and I have a metro pcs account as well. If I can eliminate the $110 that I am giving sprint each and every month just by changing a few things in my Mogul I will take that road.
As I have stated I am a noobie to all of this flashing and changing of specs on a phone. The question that I poise to you as well as everyone on this forum is that you have a thread titled "Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs", but when others ask how the phone was added to Metro PCS no one clearly explains how it was done. I thought forums were to help share the knowledge not supress it. Like I said i am new to this enviroment but I am not sure why everyone does not want this phone on Metro PCS.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

***UPDATE***
I have nor driven to multiple Metro PCS locations and I have gotten shot down each and every time. Can anyone help me get through this issue of adding the ESN?:protest:

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

I have the phone working but each time I dial I get a message saying "American Roaming Network". I read someone else was having a similar issue. Has anyone figured this out?

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

when i was getting that i had to update the prl to 69 and fixed the problem.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

I was the one that initiated the thread, by then, i did not know about the ESN change regulations and policies. The Metropcs dillema has two basic steps.

ONE: Get your mogul's ESN into Metropcs Network
- This one we cannot help you here. Either you find a good soul in a metropcs store that will enter it for you, or you take the other road into cloning ( very doable, but ilegal to discuss here ) - Google is your best frend in this case.

TWO: Change PRL, MSID, NAM, Flash New rom and MMS / Internet Settings
- This one we will be glad to help you step-by-step if you cant find here by searching.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Fred,

I am a hard worker and I will stick with it and report back if I come across anything. I am able to use my phone on Metro PCS now. I think I have better reception now that it is on the network than what I had with Sprint.

Here is where I am stuck at the moment. I flashed a custom rom from Kaos, I just cannot stand the sprint roms. I was told to delete the HTC file in Windows Setup and that file cannot be deleted. I have made all the changes per the thread and each time I go to connect to the net is dials the sprint default connection. I have tried many times to delete that connection and it never goes away.

I just need to delete that setting and keep it gone

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

were you able to enter EPST? Did you get you MSL code? because i am sure that there are a lot of Sprint settings inside there. Also, there was another Guy here with the same problem, and i am going to quote what he said: "Ok, I flashed to a different rom (was on OMJ 3.09) and now on WDM's and was able to fix the problem instantly." So.... Try to flash a new kitchen rom or something. One more try, If you got Metro on it im sure you could connect the phone with QPST, there check all tabs ( CDMA, NAM1, NAM2, ETC ) and maybe you will find something related to an old phone number @ sprintpcs.com that might fix it as well

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Fred

I am able to get into the EPST and I am able to go into the QPST. the next step is where I get lost. Where should I be looking for anything that says Sprint. there are so many tabs if you kno what I mean.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Well I opened up the CDMA workshop. Once the phone is connected the ESN and Number read failed. Would this be a problem with why I cannot get online with my phone.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Make sure you set the DM baud rate to 38400. I find it doesn't work right at higher speeds.

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

:headbang:wow

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

i have a helio drift the samsung sph-a503 and im new to this how would i set it up to use for metro
when i open the phone a helio number and password is asked how do i get past that to
please can i get some help
PLEASE
THANKS

Re: Sprint PPC6800 Successfully flashed to Metropcs
 

Humm... wrong forum. Here we deal with HTC Titan ( Sprint Mogul )