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Old 02-05-2008, 01:13 AM
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:42 PM
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Palm is more basic. I like it for some things, but I have no intention of ever going back to it. My mommy can use her Centro substaintially better than the Dash I let her use previously.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:59 PM
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I had a Treo 755P. The pros of the POS: it's fast and easy to use. The cons: doesn't multi-task, not as powerful OS, no GPS built-in, no wi-fi, and with the Centro, remarkably tiny screen and buttons. The Centro is clearly designed for someone w/ outstanding eyesight and very thin fingers. It is harder to do some stuff on the Mogul, but the power of it more than outweights its cons. I would def. look at the 755P in lieu of the Centro though if you are going to make the switch to the POS.

I love the built-in GPS, wi-fi, big keyboard and huge screen that the Mogul affords. I also get better battery life from the Mogul.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:03 PM
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I used the Treo 700P for about 10 months and I had to get away from it.

Pros:
- Fast loading system
- Good built in browser

Cons
- No multi tasking
- Not heavily developed for
- File system is complicated - Very difficult to run and open files from a SD card
- Overall less modifiable. For me this was the biggest loss
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:09 PM
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I had a Treo 600, 650 and 700p. All were pretty good phones and were pretty fast as the PalmOS isn't as demanding as WM is.

It can do multitasking, but its limited to certain apps. For example, you can play music in the background while taking a call and working on your calendar. However, other things won't work at the same time.

Regardless, I am very happy with WM and will not go back to the current ancient version of PalmOS.

Here is some info on PalmOS multitaksing I took from an article on a slow website.

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PalmOS has a preemptive multitasking kernel that provides basic task management.
As we see, the Palm OS is a Multitasking OS. Now, why can't more than one App run at the same time? Applications run in a special program called UIAS. Palm licenced the original kernel used in the 68k machines from an RTOS manufacturer called Kadak or Kodak. In order to reduce the licence price, Palm agreed to keep the multitasking API hidden from third-party developers. Thus, there was no need to make the rest of the OS multitasking-capable. Only the parts that needed to multi-task(e.g. Hotsync, TCP-IP-Stack, sound streams) were coded in a special way to allow this kind of operation. This is the reason why the creation of Cobalt took that much time.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:26 PM
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palm is good for people that want PDA functionality but do not know much about operating systems. it is simple to use for first time users. the operating system is fast and somewhat decent. now PPC's on the other hand are for users that like to customize by tweaking and adding new apps and so on and so forth. more advanced users pick the windows mobile operating system because it just does more and has so much more potential. palm will release a new operating system someday, but the one they have now is way below par. test the centro out. my wife had a 700p for about a year and then got the 700wx. she is a simple user but likes windows mobile a lot more.
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Ok, I'm kinda seeing some misinformation here, like PALM os doesn't have much development, is only good for first time users, etc etc.

Multitask. You can mutlitask in a large sense of what you would expect mutlitasking to be. You run PocketTunes, it plays in the background even when you exit and load another app. You load Blazer while listening to PTunes, if it is set to load the same page you were on when you exit, it loads the exact same page you were viewing if you quit and come back. If you quit your email client while viewing a specific email, when you reopen the email client it opens on the exact same email you were viewing. If you were composing an email and quit, it saves the draft and opens writing the exact same email state you quit at. If you do ALL of these at the same time, guess what? It behaves exactly how you would expect.

Aside from the evil thing that people hear about PALM os not multitasking, you have to realize this means in most use cases you get the functionality of mutitasking exactly as you would expect and WILL NOT RUN OUT OF PROGRAM MEMORY.

Every IM client (free and paid) supports running in the background and gives alerts while not in the application.

And you can customize the living crap out of the PALM interface with Zlauncher. As far as 3rd party apps, good luck sifting through the thousands of PALM developed apps out there...

Here are some actual cons:
-Palm databases require more care when it comes to deleting apps, etc. You can cause database corruption which can result in system instability. Fixable and easy to avoid, but you should be aware of it.
-Palm file system is not what you are used to with windows. It doesn't look the same and it doesn't function the same, takes getting used to.
-No wifi drivers currently.
-Interface requires some tweaking with 3rd party apps to make it look better, but you can achieve very nice results.
Just a quick example http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b9...p-C3BA4944.jpg
-NVFS file system can cause dbcache resets. What this means in a nutshell, system tries to flush the cache but might flush something that needs to run in the background on accident. Easy to fix with Resco Locker, but you need to be aware of it.

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Ok, I'm kinda seeing some misinformation here, like PALM os doesn't have much development, is only good for first time users, etc etc.
You're right, that is misinformation. The Palm OS hasn't seen ANY development.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:37 PM
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Multitask. You can mutlitask in a large sense of what you would expect mutlitasking to be. You run PocketTunes, it plays in the background even when you exit and load another app. You load Blazer while listening to PTunes, if it is set to load the same page you were on when you exit, it loads the exact same page you were viewing if you quit and come back. If you quit your email client while viewing a specific email, when you reopen the email client it opens on the exact same email you were viewing. If you were composing an email and quit, it saves the draft and opens writing the exact same email state you quit at. If you do ALL of these at the same time, guess what? It behaves exactly how you would expect.
And if you close Blazer while downloading something, peace out! It's very annoying in Kinoma when using it for YouTube and you have to close it for a moment to check it for something as the program just shuts down.
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Old 02-05-2008, 11:40 PM
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You're right, that is misinformation. The Palm OS hasn't seen ANY development.
well they have been adding new ringtones and color schemes to their os...
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