Sling Link or another Router????

[Baffles]

Why would you get another router to use as a switch? That's a waste of money when you an just grab a switch. :P

Other than that, when you daisy chain two routers together without disabling gateway/nat/dhcp features, you are being double nat'd.

The OP's topic says "Sling Link or another router?" To that I respond neither. You don't need another router, nor a sling link in most cases. If sling link makes it easier for you to setup, then by all means do it. But it's not a necessity. And sling link won't degrade your slingbox quality. It might cause a lower bandwidth throughput and cause the video to be compressed more, but I doubt your upstream on your internet connection is higher than the speed of a sling link anyway. I'd bet that the only time you'd see a difference is with LAN viewing.

[canospinach]

Originally Posted by Baffles

Why would you get another router to use as a switch? That's a waste of money when you an just grab a switch. :P

Other than that, when you daisy chain two routers together without disabling gateway/nat/dhcp features, you are being double nat'd.

As you know since a gateway can often be configured as either a router or a switch, its often a simple approach (especially as many may have a leftover older unit).

i agree if you just hook two routers together thats true, but then your network would be all funky and lets be serious, who would actually run it that way? If it worked.

The OP mentioned router so we can only go with what they may be thinking. They may be simply using the wrong terminology.

I realize the average consumer does not know the difference between router and switch.

either way my comment about network architecture is valid and nobody can dispute AC has a lot of 60hz noise in the line (it is the nature of AC)

[sheureka]

Originally Posted by canospinach

either way my comment about network architecture is valid and nobody can dispute AC has a lot of 60hz noise in the line (it is the nature of AC)

There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary - testing shows the only time there is noise is by running a hair dryer on the same outlet - so unless the Slinglink (or Netgear or Linksys adapter) is in the bathroom it's not an issue - sheureka

[canospinach]

Originally Posted by sheureka

There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary - testing shows the only time there is noise is by running a hair dryer on the same outlet - so unless the Slinglink (or Netgear or Linksys adapter) is in the bathroom it's not an issue - sheureka

Ok, i am going to be real patient here.

LOL- "Evidence" seriously...who is it that thinks they re-wrote the rules of electricity?

So how does running a hairdryer show there is no noise in AC?

Do you understand how AC works?

Go sit next to an AC transformer, that hum you hear, is the built in 60hz AC noise i am referring to.

Sorry but its a fact that it exists, EVERYBODY who has AC power has noise in their line. The fact that it does not bother or you do not notice it does not mean its not there or its not an issue as a whole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utility_frequency

We are talking about frequencies here. 60hz is noisy. This is why AC Power Conditioners exist.

Here is how it works. If i have a different opinion, i state it, then i state why and i provide quality reasoning based in the factual real life world. If you disagree, state why then provide a quality reasoning based in the factual world. Dont just say i am "wrong". You can continue your attempt to show me i am wrong and i will continue to show you why i am right. I didnt make this stuff up, regardless of what you may believe.

Originally Posted by sheureka

Try again with newer equipment? You have no idea what equipment I have. And there are very few adapters that will work with Tivo - I've tried them all - and I know I get a better (and certainly more reliable) signal with the Slinglink. - sheureka

Here you wildly make statements like "Ive tried them all". Really, how about a list? Thats hundreds of adapters. I will ask you again...Were you aware Tivo is a Linux core and has native ability for many wireless adaptors? (if you use the proper chipset).

How do you know you get a "better" or "more reliable" signal? Show me exactly what scientific method are you using to test this? Please do not state your OPINIONS as fact then try to attack my facts solely with your opinions.

If it works for YOU, thats great.

Again, as a service its just not upto MY expectations and thats ok. I have higher expectations than Sling can provide. I believe its hoaky and my reasoning as i posted is both factual and sound.

Moving forward, should you decide you want to challenge my perspective, please be prepared to validate your point with factual evidence or keep your perspective to yourself.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

[digiblur]

Originally Posted by sheureka

There seems to be a lot of evidence to the contrary - testing shows the only time there is noise is by running a hair dryer on the same outlet - so unless the Slinglink (or Netgear or Linksys adapter) is in the bathroom it's not an issue - sheureka

Homeplug adapters are awesome. For stationary devices with no network drops available I'd use the homeplugs over wifi devices anyday. I've even seen a pair work from house to house with no issues.

[canospinach]

Originally Posted by digiblur

Homeplug adapters are awesome. For stationary devices with no network drops available I'd use the homeplugs over wifi devices anyday. I've even seen a pair work from house to house with no issues.

Digiblur, did you miss my questions?

So what EXACTLY do i not know and how am i mistaken?

Be specific, show documentation links etc.

EDIT - BTW you bring up another VERY VALID issue, when using ANY "Homeplug" AC device you are sacrificing security as the power grid was never designed for this and is wide open. This is why you can port a signal between buildings which are ultimately on the same power feed. Your literally sending your signal everywhere it can go (to anyone who is connected) until the signal degrades. Thank you, i almost forgot about that! You make your network wide open and completely vulnerable to anyone with an AC plug in a nearby building. AC shares a common line from a local substation. So much for security

Again, not upto my expectations.

[VW]

Originally Posted by canospinach

EDIT - BTW you bring up another VERY VALID issue, when using ANY "Homeplug" AC device you are sacrificing security as the power grid was never designed for this and is wide open. This is why you can port a signal between buildings which are ultimately on the same power feed. Your literally sending your signal everywhere it can go (to anyone who is connected) until the signal degrades. Thank you, i almost forgot about that! You make your network wide open and completely vulnerable to anyone with an AC plug in a nearby building. AC shares a common line from a local substation. So much for security

Again, not upto my expectations.

Well thats not 100% true. Most of the time homeplug wont even make it past your 200A main, and it certainly wont make it through your distribution transfomer (look up isolation transformer as it will act the same), so worst case scenario is your only sharing with those on your transfomer. Having said that I would buy a cheap buffalo router($50), slap DDWRT on there and run it in bridged mode.

[canospinach]

Originally Posted by VW

Well thats not 100% true. Most of the time homeplug wont even make it past your 200A main, and it certainly wont make it through your distribution transfomer (look up isolation transformer as it will act the same), so worst case scenario is your only sharing with those on your transfomer. Having said that I would buy a cheap buffalo router($50), slap DDWRT on there and run it in bridged mode.

Your absolutely right, I was making the point that AC Homeplug devices are neither as quality or secure as people would make them out to be.

People want to say "they are so great, no issues" yet they dont fully understand the potential drawbacks and device limitations.

That Linux DDWRT firmware rocks. I am using different versions of it at a couple different locations, on 2 different linksys routers. FYI my vote for Wireless AcessPoint/Bridge - Apple Airport Extreme. I recently threw one of these on my home office network, great device (although very limited firewall, not recommended as a primary device).

[digiblur]

Originally Posted by VW

Well thats not 100% true. Most of the time homeplug wont even make it past your 200A main, and it certainly wont make it through your distribution transfomer (look up isolation transformer as it will act the same), so worst case scenario is your only sharing with those on your transfomer. Having said that I would buy a cheap buffalo router($50), slap DDWRT on there and run it in bridged mode.

If you don't want your neighbors sharing off of you just turn on the encryption which is really doubtful unless you are in an apartment complex or something. You'd be silly to leave your Homeplug as default with no security.