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Old 11-16-2009, 11:50 PM
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:10 AM
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Flashes on phones generally don't do much, unless they're really, really good.
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:47 AM
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Re: Post pictures taken with your Imagio good or bad

The I hated the Omnia but it had a really nice flash on it. (i910)

Here are a few taken from my HTC Imagio on halloween: 2 light, one dark. Not bad for a PPC Camera.



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Old 11-19-2009, 10:43 AM
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My "Buddy's Imagio" takes very pretty pics of all kinds wildlife and assorted plants!

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Good day, as long as there isn't much motion and not so good night, but we all expect that w/o a flash



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Old 11-19-2009, 11:55 PM
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Re: Post pictures taken with your Imagio good or bad

I keep seeing pictures from the Imagio that appear less than expected. I seem to get pretty decent results with mine.

This first one is taken at a bar at 6AM, less than ideal lighting to say the least. I hand held the phone. This is Louanne's RT 68 famous steak salad!


Next is standing on my front porch at about 6:45 AM, the sun is just rising. Again, hand held phone, but resting the back of my hand against the porch stancheon.


I have gotten what I thought were really nice photos with the Imagio, some of them in lighting that was far from ideal.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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really is pretty lackluster :\ just because its better than the "almighty" iphone doesn't actually make it a good product. hope someone in the big meadia calls them out on the camera & teaches them a lesson for the next HTC i buy LoL!

sensor really sucks when it get moving the iso around. i wouldn't know, but it seems pretty slow getting what the sensors sees into memory; is as prone to motion blur as anything ive ever seen (on the bad end) and is low fps at 640*480 resolution video (regardless of codec).

phone would be alot better off if they would have put in a high end 3mp sensor with a flash than whatever low end 5mp sensor they used. the focus & noise, especially in anything but full sunlight is a joke. no phone led is going to provide fill or correct colors... but itll atleast get the thing in focis at short range & photoshop can easily deal with the color/contrast issues by itself.

not the phone's fault but if you plan on mms'ing pictures around you're limited to 3mp shot on verizon. kinda sucks sending 3mp pics to someone witha dumbphone who sends out 2-3mp pics off a higher quality sensor that look better.




really. love the phone, but the picture side of it sucks. (to reiderate) you can sum the entire experiance up with "poser cheap 5mp sensor only installed to fool dumb americans with a 5mp spec".
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Re: Post pictures taken with your Imagio good or bad

Also remember that all these are phones that do pictures, they aren't cameras. Eventually the two devices will converge (for point and shoot) and we'll have it all. We just need to wait until that happens and for now be happy they they are a good solution for non-print photos and for being able to get a photo of some quality at all times.
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Also remember that all these are phones that do pictures, they aren't cameras. Eventually the two devices will converge (for point and shoot) and we'll have it all. We just need to wait until that happens and for now be happy they they are a good solution for non-print photos and for being able to get a photo of some quality at all times.
im not taking that the wrong way so dont take this the wrong way when i say:
ive got:
a 1983 Nikon 35mm FA
a medium format full body wedding camera, couple of Metz flashes
and entire film lab in the next room (this is my studio)
few pocket 35mms
few digicams
and a nikon S90 DSLR


they're never goig to make a useable camera in a real phone. its impossible. light will only bend so far and you're never going to see a phone with minimum hundred dollar sensor and a thousand dollar lens hanging off the side of it.
when i tell you this thing blows... it's relative to other cellphones. i honestly believ e& stand by this is a craptastic 5mp sensor just thrown on the phone to fill a spec sheet. it is absolutely horrible. there are medium quality 3mp cellphones that will walk this one and plenty of higher end 3mp sensor phones nearing/past 2 years old that can trounce it.
focus is iffy, colors/contrast/brightness frankly require photoshoping, no way to change any of the settings in a timely fashion, horrendous noise outside of a relatively small iso zone (and even in its sweetspot of hella bright, its pretty noisey), terrible speed taking pictures, AFA the video spec sheet, frankly i doubt neither a major phone subsystem nor the sensor itself is fast enough to do well.


looooooooove the phone.... but anything having anything to do with the camera is some $1 chinese clone done to fill a spec sheet. saying it again. just "being better than the iphone's" camera is like trying to be better than a cell camera from several years ago. (cause there are more accurate camera setups on cellphones 3-4 years old at lower resolutions that are better than that hog!)
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im not taking that the wrong way so dont take this the wrong way when i say:
ive got:
a 1983 Nikon 35mm FA
a medium format full body wedding camera, couple of Metz flashes
and entire film lab in the next room (this is my studio)
few pocket 35mms
few digicams
and a nikon S90 DSLR


they're never goig to make a useable camera in a real phone. its impossible. light will only bend so far and you're never going to see a phone with minimum hundred dollar sensor and a thousand dollar lens hanging off the side of it.
when i tell you this thing blows... it's relative to other cellphones. i honestly believ e& stand by this is a craptastic 5mp sensor just thrown on the phone to fill a spec sheet. it is absolutely horrible. there are medium quality 3mp cellphones that will walk this one and plenty of higher end 3mp sensor phones nearing/past 2 years old that can trounce it.
focus is iffy, colors/contrast/brightness frankly require photoshoping, no way to change any of the settings in a timely fashion, horrendous noise outside of a relatively small iso zone (and even in its sweetspot of hella bright, its pretty noisey), terrible speed taking pictures, AFA the video spec sheet, frankly i doubt neither a major phone subsystem nor the sensor itself is fast enough to do well.


looooooooove the phone.... but anything having anything to do with the camera is some $1 chinese clone done to fill a spec sheet. saying it again. just "being better than the iphone's" camera is like trying to be better than a cell camera from several years ago. (cause there are more accurate camera setups on cellphones 3-4 years old at lower resolutions that are better than that hog!)
Well it is a matter of perspective I guess.

For me it serves its purpose to get decent shots when I don't feel like using a real camera which is all it is supposed to do. I (like many I would assume) did not buy this phone for the 5 MP camera but just saw this as a bonus, as it turns out you are right it is not much of a bonus but is far better that what I came from on my older HTC phone which is all I cared about. Personally if I want a truely good photo I take out my point and shoot or DSLR which it sounds like what you would do as well with your equipment list.

I wasn't clear on my other point. I know the phone and camera will never truly converge because of the lenses and sensors amongst other reasons. I was just referring to the fact today's tech will be cheap enough tomorrow to put into phones so you will be able to get solid photos for small print without needing a camera.
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