What's the point?

[thepolishguy]

Originally Posted by y0himba

There was a bit of sarcasm there as Verizon has not released any updates on their site nor has HTC. They seem to have forgotten this phone and it is without a doubt one of the best phones out there. It is simply amazing.

Can you link me to "Spetrillo's 6.5x"? I like MyCleanImagio a lot, but some of the points in the OP are valid. What the OP fails to see is that custom ROMS fix a lot of the issues that the manufacturer or distributor won't such as the horrible memory leak in the Imagio. However, they are really for enthusiasts.

I have all the necessary tools for flashing my phone sitting here on the drive including the MyCleanIMagio ROM, but just cannot seem to get the balls to do it. I am set in my ways with my phone, and love it.

Originally Posted by nsa_sailor

http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downl...zon%20Wireless

I might have been wrong about your sarcasm. You do know that Verizon did release an official update for the Imagio to a 3.04 rom right? A rom that did not come on the phone. NSA's link is for the official "MR1 Upgrade" I flashed it before the HSPL. I thought it was better than the stock rom. Had way more free storage memory (100mb's. I had less than 40 on the first stock rom).

Here is the link to "Steve's Imagio Manilla"...

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121040

It is 6.5.x (not sure if it is 6.5.3 or 6.5.5) It is buld 25563 so I think that is 6.5.5. Oh - but this is a "do it your self rom" Forgot about that. In other words it comes practically empty so you can add your own stuff. Which is cool for me. But it comes really empty. No Office Suite. No Marketplace. No My Phone. No Teeter (which of course is a real tragedy). PIE as the only web browser. So you have to have all your .cabs ready to go.

To some this might be one of those "issues". To me it is an asset as I don't have to have a bunch of stuff cooked in that I am never going to use.

[robocrop]

Whats the point? Well for me its the ability to make the Imagio my own. I have been cooking my own ROMs from the PPC Kitchen. Adding and removing features to get what I want the way I want it. Which is the way personal computers should be.

My wife suspected for years the I was a geeker, she has finally officially confirmed it! I can now start building my mad scientist lab!!

[y0himba]

Originally Posted by robocrop

My wife suspected for years the I was a geeker, she has finally officially confirmed it! I can now start building my mad scientist lab!!

Don't you mean 'Mad scientist kitchen'?

[cbreze]

I always enjoyed a ROM with all the verizon crapola removed since I don't use or need that stuff. Plus you can always go back to stock. So what's not to like. Nothing ventured, nothing gained tho. Whatever works for ya!

[y0himba]

Originally Posted by maisonpulaski

You do know that Verizon did release an official update for the Imagio to a 3.04 rom right? A rom that did not come on the phone. NSA's link is for the official "MR1 Upgrade"

Why is this on a third party site, and not HTC's official Imagio support pages or on Verizon's site?

That is where I am confused. I assume an official update for the HTC Imagio I purchased from Verizon would be on Verizon's or HTC's sites.

[nsa_sailor]

If you click through the assorted links on Verizon's web pages, you get to that one eventually.

[thepolishguy]

Originally Posted by y0himba

Why is this on a third party site, and not HTC's official Imagio support pages or on Verizon's site?

That is where I am confused. I assume an official update for the HTC Imagio I purchased from Verizon would be on Verizon's or HTC's sites.

Originally Posted by nsa_sailor

If you click through the assorted links on Verizon's web pages, you get to that one eventually.

Yes - If you go to Verizon Wireless, go to "Support", go to "Phones and devices", go to "Support for your phone". Go to "Manufacturer". Enter HTC. Enter Imagio. Press "Go". Select "Software update". It will take you directly to the linked page.

It is for real. There was an entire thread here on PPCG discussing the leaked MR1 upgrade that became the official MR1 upgrade. Dang! Now I can't find it. Was going to link to it but maybe it got deleted.

So you can flash that one no problem. You don't even have to unlock your phone bc it is an official upgrade.

[coolpoete]

if you read up on Windows Mobile 7 that is about to come out there is talk that addresses the fact that Microsoft nor HTC currently release updates for WM 6.x on time. Supposedly Windows Mobile 7 will fix that issue and these updates will only come from one source and should be more readily availble.

The problem with Windows Mobile so far is that each ROM has a number of bugs, wether it be 5, 6.0, 6.1 and beyond. Every new update fixes bugs in the previous version. So even if you never flashed a custom rom, eventually an official update *may* come to your phone which would require you to flash it if you so chose. I still can't figure out who was responsible for the updates officially. For example, on the Motorola Q9 series phones there were several updates released through Motorola's site for 6.1. However, the Q9M for whatever reason never got one. Then Verizon picked up the Q9C which for all intensive purposes was the exact same phone except for a 6.1 software update. So, users who wanted 6.1 had to flash their phones to this unofficial ROM. I read somewhere that these updates are specific to carrier and amount of units the carrier has sold. So it's probably fair to say that if your phone is popular it will be more prone to receiving an update.

So there are several reasons why someone might want to flash, many reasons have been given. Another prevailing factor is that Microsoft continues to develop Sense with WM 6.5.x builds and is not pushing these updates to many carriers. If you lucked out and bought a HD2 you may have one of the latest builds but if you have a Imagio you are out of luck for the time being.

[Toysrme]

the honest truth kev is that once most of these roms (nrgy, my clean imagio, etc) have been out for a few weeks & any major bugs @ release are worked out. they are far & away faster, more stable & massively more functional than the HTC/Verizon bs they put on the phones.
i just got another replacement. that meant first using my last phone reflashed & locked for 2 days + waiting two days for the current phone to be unlocked so i could flash it.
i liked to have pulled my hair out on the current VZ/HTC rom.
seriously... the stock roms are just that bad.

AFA "having" to update flashed roms. Who in god's earth said you "had" to do anything??? Lord I used one version of MCI without issue for over a month. My cousin is STILL using the second released version with no issue. My best friend updates NRGY every 3-4 weeks...
At some point you have to realize a fundimental truth. The phone is exactly like a windows computer. It should be reformatted every so often just to keep the "newness" going on. You know that happy feeling immediately after a VZ rom update/reflash that lasts all of about 45 min before it slows down??? Now imagine that feeling for atleast the first week once you get a good rom up & every subsequent reboot providing you dont install something stupid in the background!

[Toysrme]

let us not forget the #1 outstanding reason to flash a rom in the first place...
battery life, lawlz!
stock = pissy
tweaked = slightly better
highly tweaked custom rom = playing with my old imagio flashed to the may 13th NRGY & hellaciously tweaked out. my phone went from 96% SOC to 92% SOC sitting on my pillow for 7 hours after a reboot and i liked to have crapped myself. That's with updates enabled too. twitter (1h) facebook (1h) email (1h) weather (1h)
the stock roms, even every time id tweak a stock rom, can't begin to touch the battery drain non-stock roms can achive. (The lowest # ive seen on nrgy once tweaked out for multiple consecutive loggings overnight set to 60s was 27ma/h = crazy)

performance is #2. they simply run much longer without bogging down. no more reboots or running windows 98 era ram cleaner bs every few hours just to keep it fresh!