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Old 10-23-2009, 02:01 PM
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I must be a moron because I can't find the answer.....

Hey guys....Over the past week, I have been on so many freaking forums....I can't keep them straight

So if some of these have been answered, please bear with me

I have a few questions for anyone who may have experienced this since owning the Hero:

1. Can Visual Voicemail and MMS be downloaded/received while on WIFI?

2. Has anyone run into their data signal crapping out on them? I have been sitting at work with WIFI on and VV won't download, so I turned off WIFI and had no EVDO signal. Couldn't get on the browser or anything data related. I had a signal and could receive/make calls, but no data. I soft reset and it shows me roaming....which it shouldn't. I live in the second largest city in Illinois and NEVER roam.

3. Is there a better alternative out there for video watching? I know I've seen this on here, but can't find it. YouTube is fantastic and Sprint TV is great, but for playing files, the stock program is a bit laggy.

4. This is an odd one: I don't use/sync my Google Contacts, as I use my company's Exchange Server. When I go to the "People" section and click on a contact for which I KNOW I have mail from sitting in my Gmail-box, it won't show up. The only mail that shows up is from the Exchange Server, and it's not even all of it, just certain random messages. Is there a setting that I'm missing? Is this a bug? Do you have to utilize Google Contacts in order for it to pair your Google Mail? Even if that's the case, will it show Archived mail, or only mail unread?

Again, sorry if some of these are repeat questions, I'm doing my best
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1. No/No

2. Never had a data problem that a soft reset didn't fix.

3. Video Player, free, works great.

4. Mail app and Gmail app are disconnected. Gmail won't show up for contacts, at least not for me. It isn't being integrated til android eclair 2.0
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:50 PM
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1. No/No

2. Never had a data problem that a soft reset didn't fix.

3. Video Player, free, works great.

4. Mail app and Gmail app are disconnected. Gmail won't show up for contacts, at least not for me. It isn't being integrated til android eclair 2.0
First off....Thanks as always for the quick response (I hit the button )

Here are my responses:

1. Will the MMS/VV messages remain suspended and held until you go back on EVDO and then received, or are they gone for good? I know you'll be alerted of regular voicemail, but then does that download to VV, or just remain plan old voicemail?

2. So you have seen the data thing happen? I suppose it's not too big of a deal, as long as there is some sort of data (WIFI) happening, but I'm hopeful it doesn't happen regularly where you wouldn't notice until 8 hours after the fact and you have missed a bunch of stuff. After I soft reset, it eventually stopped roaming.

3. Market I presume for that app? Doesn't cause any issues with existing stock program?

4. I'm testing this one out with one of my contacts, but Gmail Sync appears to be down for the time being. I may have to disagree with you here (I most likely didn't make myself clear) because that was a big thign that HTC pushed with their Sense UI, was the integration of all modes of communication in the "People" App.

Lemme know what you think...and again, thanks as always.
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First off....Thanks as always for the quick response (I hit the button )

Here are my responses:

1. Will the MMS/VV messages remain suspended and held until you go back on EVDO and then received, or are they gone for good? I know you'll be alerted of regular voicemail, but then does that download to VV, or just remain plan old voicemail?

2. So you have seen the data thing happen? I suppose it's not too big of a deal, as long as there is some sort of data (WIFI) happening, but I'm hopeful it doesn't happen regularly where you wouldn't notice until 8 hours after the fact and you have missed a bunch of stuff. After I soft reset, it eventually stopped roaming.

3. Market I presume for that app? Doesn't cause any issues with existing stock program?

4. I'm testing this one out with one of my contacts, but Gmail Sync appears to be down for the time being. I may have to disagree with you here (I most likely didn't make myself clear) because that was a big thign that HTC pushed with their Sense UI, was the integration of all modes of communication in the "People" App.

Lemme know what you think...and again, thanks as always.
They may not be suspended but you can download them from their respective apps. I had a vv that wouldn't download because I was on a call then I went in and hit download and it worked.

Yea I had a problem the other way, wifi wouldn't work and I was stuck in 1x. A soft reset fixed it. I haven't noticed roaming problems, maybe the whole thing was a tower problem and not your phone.

I haven't had any trouble with it, and yea its in the market. It is a super light app that many people swore by so I tried it and loved it. Plays my vids from my wm phones perfectly.

That's fine I like to be challenged. I get what you are saying. I was saying that Gmail and Mail are separate. I haven't gotten a gmail message in my people app, but I am not saying that it can't happen.

Anytime bro.

EDIT: I see where I said it wrong about gmail. The Gmail and Mail app are integrated in 2.0, it looked like I meant the email and people apps.

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Old 10-23-2009, 03:08 PM
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They may not be suspended but you can download them from their respective apps. I had a vv that wouldn't download because I was on a call then I went in and hit download and it worked.

Yea I had a problem the other way, wifi wouldn't work and I was stuck in 1x. A soft reset fixed it. I haven't noticed roaming problems, maybe the whole thing was a tower problem and not your phone.

I haven't had any trouble with it, and yea its in the market. It is a super light app that many people swore by so I tried it and loved it. Plays my vids from my wm phones perfectly.

That's fine I like to be challenged. I get what you are saying. I was saying that Gmail and Mail are separate. I haven't gotten a gmail message in my people app, but I am not saying that it can't happen.

Anytime bro.

EDIT: I see where I said it wrong about gmail. The Gmail and Mail app are integrated in 2.0, it looked like I meant the email and people apps.
so for VV/MMS, you will get an alert and then the option to download? Do you have to go into menu in the app to download or does it state it right there?

I'll keep you updated on anymore roaming/data issues, for other's use...if anyone's interested.

I'll give Video Player a try! Thanks.

Yea, I was a bit confused about the mail/Gmail integration thing....but you straightened it out

I'm still waiting for my Google "Test Contact" to sync with my phone to see what shows up.
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so for VV/MMS, you will get an alert and then the option to download? Do you have to go into menu in the app to download or does it state it right there?

I'll keep you updated on anymore roaming/data issues, for other's use...if anyone's interested.

I'll give Video Player a try! Thanks.

Yea, I was a bit confused about the mail/Gmail integration thing....but you straightened it out

I'm still waiting for my Google "Test Contact" to sync with my phone to see what shows up.
I had to go into my VV and it said it failed to download on the main screen and I think I just chose to retry.

Ok yea I would like to know what it was.

Anytime.

Yea it is weird that Google doesn't consider Gmail part of the mail app haha.

Cool keep us posted on the result.
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I had to go into my VV and it said it failed to download on the main screen and I think I just chose to retry.

Ok yea I would like to know what it was.

Anytime.

Yea it is weird that Google doesn't consider Gmail part of the mail app haha.

Cool keep us posted on the result.
ok...so this is pretty much a back-and-forth between you and i , but anyone can hopefully chime in on this:

Here's a new one for everyone.....after pretty much a day of doing nothing on the phone except a few texts (GPS and WIFI were on all day), I got home and started playing with the phone. It got SOOOOOOOOOO slow (and I'm not nitpicking, I'm talking WinMo-hang-slowness....believe me, I understand a little bit of lag, but this was insane!) so I checked the Applications and Manage Applications. Now I know everyone's first answer is "get a task manager, etc" but I am not going to give into that, because I believe it'll cause more problems, or at least potential for more problems, by adding more variables to the equation if something goes wrong. I was looking at some of the applications that seem to be using quite a bit of RAM/ROM and had a question for the community:

The biggest 3 applications were:

Mail - 34.80 MB (34.25 MB Data + 556 KB Cache) and using 6.78 MB Ram
Contacts Storage - 4.09 MB total (all data) and 11.56 MB RAM
com.android.providers.calendar - 2.78 MB total (all data) and 11.02 RAM

What does everyone else's look like? I know I'm not going to be touching the Contacts Storage or com.android.providers.calendar stuff, but what happens if I clear my data and cache in mail? I have it hooked to an Exchange Server at work. What exactly gets cleared, and will that help with any of my lag? Do these numbers look pretty representative of everyone else's?

Any input is appreciated.
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ok...so this is pretty much a back-and-forth between you and i , but anyone can hopefully chime in on this:

Here's a new one for everyone.....after pretty much a day of doing nothing on the phone except a few texts (GPS and WIFI were on all day), I got home and started playing with the phone. It got SOOOOOOOOOO slow (and I'm not nitpicking, I'm talking WinMo-hang-slowness....believe me, I understand a little bit of lag, but this was insane!) so I checked the Applications and Manage Applications. Now I know everyone's first answer is "get a task manager, etc" but I am not going to give into that, because I believe it'll cause more problems, or at least potential for more problems, by adding more variables to the equation if something goes wrong. I was looking at some of the applications that seem to be using quite a bit of RAM/ROM and had a question for the community:

The biggest 3 applications were:

Mail - 34.80 MB (34.25 MB Data + 556 KB Cache) and using 6.78 MB Ram
Contacts Storage - 4.09 MB total (all data) and 11.56 MB RAM
com.android.providers.calendar - 2.78 MB total (all data) and 11.02 RAM

What does everyone else's look like? I know I'm not going to be touching the Contacts Storage or com.android.providers.calendar stuff, but what happens if I clear my data and cache in mail? I have it hooked to an Exchange Server at work. What exactly gets cleared, and will that help with any of my lag? Do these numbers look pretty representative of everyone else's?

Any input is appreciated.
I do use a task manager just because I don't want to have to back out of my browser. I do not use a force kill app as that is what caused my first need for a hard reset I am pretty sure!

What I have noticed is that home doesn't kill an app. If I press home the load time going back into an app when I pick it is much faster than if I use the back button to get home. Also if I use the back button and back out of an app it doesn't show up on task manager, I think this means it is closed.

What I suggest is using the back button, not home, to get out of your apps. I also do suggest a task manager, not killer, because backing out of every page in your browser gets super slow! But since you said not to mention one I take it back haha.
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You two should exchagne phone numbers...lol
Haha yea my number is 867-5309 hahaha. If someone calls that let me know who answers.
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